Sea Shepherd condemned by International Whaling Commission.

[aquaman_06]

MikeFerrara,

No naturally I wouldn't want the fate of the whales to be determined by who can win the biggest naval battle. The point I was trying to make is that if countries would enforce their water's whaling law then there would be no need for Sea Shepard or any organization like them.

Imagine if when the Japanese pulled into the Australian Whale Sanctuary where whaling is illegal they were met with two Australian Coast Guard Cutters escorting the Australian Wildlife Police who boarded the Japanese vessel and imprisoned the Japanese whalers and held trial upon them for illegal whaling. Imagine if that happened every place the Japanese whaled illegally.

The Japanese have told Sea Shepard that if they board the whaling ships they will be taken prisoner as intruders to Japan which is a militaristic hold of a forieghn person. The only reason this did not take place when SS boarded whaling vessel in Australian waters is because Australia asked that the SS people be released and Japan likely wanted to save face. They were illegally whaling and illegally holding an innocent person at the same time.

Why these other countries are not enforcing their laws against the Japanese I don't know. My question is, "if a Japanese person snuck into Australia or any other country with anti-whaling laws and killed a person, would they be free of any persecution under the law?"

You know people get uptight trying to make it sound like anyone who opposes Japanese whaling operations are anti-Japan or anyone who supports SS is an anti-Japan terrorist. Some conservation organizations here in the U.S. who have gone against the government in a non-violent fashion have been called terrorists as well. The Sierra Club and World Wildlife Federation have all been called terrorists. I don't think SS or any of their supporters, including myself, fall into that category. The only thing SS and their supporters would like to see is some honestly and legality on the part of the Japanese concerning whaling and countries with anti-whaling laws actually enforce their laws.

 

[Geoff_H]

An opinion.

Yes, based on evidence.

 

[Geoff_H]

Imagine if when the Japanese pulled into the Australian Whale Sanctuary where whaling is illegal they were met with two Australian Coast Guard Cutters escorting the Australian Wildlife Police who boarded the Japanese vessel and imprisoned the Japanese whalers and held trial upon them for illegal whaling. Imagine if that happened every place the Japanese whaled illegally.

Imagine the moon is made of blue cheese - it won't change the facts that Japan is not whaling illegally.

 

[aquaman_06]

So it is legal for Japan to enter a whale sanctuary in Australia's waters that is protected under Australian law? So basically anything Japan does world wide is legal if they say its for scientific research?

 

[NarcosisDave]

I think he meant the Sea Shepherd.

I did a quick google search and it seems they are an eco-terrorist organization

New Zeal: Eco-Terrorists Up the Ante

Well you know what they say - one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter!!

 

[Geoff_H]

So it is legal for Japan to enter a whale sanctuary in Australia's waters that is protected under Australian law? So basically anything Japan does world wide is legal if they say its for scientific research?

Those waters are not recognised as Australian by the majority of the planet. If I recall correctly, just four nations recognise Australia's claim and none of them are big. The United Nations are the ultimate artiber in these cases and they do not recognise Australia's case.

Case closed.

 

[wardric]

Well you know what they say - one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter!!

that is very true

 

[NarcosisDave]

Those waters are not recognised as Australian by the majority of the planet. If I recall correctly, just four nations recognise Australia's claim and none of them are big. The United Nations are the ultimate artiber in these cases and they do not recognise Australia's case.

Case closed.

Its not case closed you pompous pratt !! Your arguments are childish and absolutely groundless - you keep mouthing off about evidence so show it to us!!

Whaling is wrong !!! Whether it's in Norwegian or Japanese waters or anywhere else!! Unfortunately for the rest of the world there are people like you around that condone this kind of behaviour and then wonder why the planet is in the state it is!!

 

[terrillja]

Yes, based on evidence.

Based on...? What, the crew shot the captain for press?

 

[aquaman_06]

You know Geoff it amazes me that while marine biologists, marine scientists, marine ecologists and experts around the world all say that whaling on any level needs to stop you can sit here and defend this cruel, unsustainable, and barbaric practice. You are literally making up reasons as to why international conservation law does not apply to Japan.

I notice you are living in Japan, perhaps you are Japanese, and perhaps you feel your people have some soverign right to fish the oceans clean of fish and whale the seas free of dolphins and whales. Sadly though Geoff not everyone on Earth feels the same way as the Japanese the Norwegians or the Icelandic people. Sadly those nations whom stand against whaling seem apprehensive to do much about it. Here is the clincher - The Japanese people don't need whale meat to live - The Japanese don't need shark fin soup to live - the Japanese enjoy these foods and use them as status symbols. In William Wallace's Scotland it was a status simple to skin your enemy alive and wear that skin as a fashionable belt. Does that make it right or fair?

To sit back and say the Japanese are legally hunting and killing whales, I just can't understand that thinking. Any research into the actions of Japanese whaling fleets clearly shows multiple examples where their ships have broken the law time and time again.

As for you wardric you are perhaps the most ignorant person on this thread. You have posted recipes for whale meat, shown you know absolutely nothing about Steve Iriwn or Dianne Fossey or probably any conservationist. You have that lame world of whalers website in your signature. You have compared the U.S. to Japan as a whaling nation with clearly little to no education on what U.S. whaling practices are and how they function. In addition to that your callous attitude and support of whaling makes it crystal clear you know very little about how an ecosystem functions, the biology of the ocean and the importance of whales of all species to those properties and how deeply in peril our ocean planet is. It is this blatant ignorance and lack of regard for the natural environment that has this world where it is today. With 80% of our fisheries resources totally over fished and plummeted. Many species of marine mammals either extinct, endangered, or threatened. With over 50% of our coral reefs decimated and with human beings too un-educated, callous, or un-caring to do a darn thing about it.

Thank god for people like Paul Watson that don't sit back and let the sun shine with a bowl of shark fin soup in one hand and whale sushi in the other. Thank god for people that go out there and put their lives on the neck for the betterment of this world!