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    Three divers lose their lives at Chac Mool in Riviera Maya. 2 Brazillian, 1 Spaniard

    So the article I linked to in that post says this: So if what you are saying is correct, any and all tours EVER done in the cenotes were in violation of the law since none of the cenotes were properly or legally approved prior to diving them. Were you or any of the the other tour operators...
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    Three divers lose their lives at Chac Mool in Riviera Maya. 2 Brazillian, 1 Spaniard

    Not sure where they were found Yes Not Sure Cenote Chac Mool | Pluto Dive Here are a few pictures of Chac mool.....the 3rd picture looks more like the guide has them in a cave not a cavern. http://www.panoramio.com/photo/3919900 Sign; Chac-Mool Cenote Diving Map
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    Untrained cave diving in the Dominican Republic

    I spoke with PADI recently about the missing/dead woman who was lost in Cozumel on Santa Rosa wall. I was told PADI is a training agency so if any accidents during training happen then they take the appropriate action. If they were listed in any way as a PADI shop and were failing to live up to...
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    First-hand account of down current, with video footage

    A few thoughts on why the currents happen to be stronger or even dangerous at certain times. I am no expert on the subject but I would guess it had to do with the change of seasons and the underwater topography. I located this article and it has this to say: Ocean current - Wikipedia, the free...
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    Three divers lose their lives at Chac Mool in Riviera Maya. 2 Brazillian, 1 Spaniard

    To do what exactly? Lead any and all cenote tours? What about the cenotes that don't ask for the guide's cert as quoted here: Google Translate So you meant to say they are "supposed" to be certified but not all of them are and those who are not can easily take tourists to cenotes that do not...
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    Three divers lose their lives at Chac Mool in Riviera Maya. 2 Brazillian, 1 Spaniard

    Who requested you pull the link? The mod explained after your post that the discussion of those photos being a useful deterrent was off topic to this discussion. I would think a link to a story that gives info about this is on topic and if it happens to have some bad photos then add a warning as...
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    Three divers lose their lives at Chac Mool in Riviera Maya. 2 Brazillian, 1 Spaniard

    Here is what I mean by regular practice......The news stories and other divers have comments that would lead one to believe every single tour operated there ever was always safe and never violated any rules. Now we have someone state that he was told guides have been seen leading divers out of...
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    Three divers lose their lives at Chac Mool in Riviera Maya. 2 Brazillian, 1 Spaniard

    I have been waiting for someone to confirm if this was a regular practice. Thanks for the info.
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    Three divers lose their lives at Chac Mool in Riviera Maya. 2 Brazillian, 1 Spaniard

    Yea I translated his comments and he does say there was no broken line so that story was false. It is obvious they left the safety of marked areas and ventured into others but there is no way for him to prove the guide lead them there or that the guide was there intentionally. Maybe he was...
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    Three divers lose their lives at Chac Mool in Riviera Maya. 2 Brazillian, 1 Spaniard

    This article is an interview with one of the rescue divers in which he seems convinced it is nothing more than tragic fatal mistakes. Google Translate What would this dive guide have been taught to do if a diver enters an unmarked area and pursuing that diver might cost more lives? I think...
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    Three divers lose their lives at Chac Mool in Riviera Maya. 2 Brazillian, 1 Spaniard

    Well it should come as no surprise that the guide's family is not only outraged the newspapers published pictures of the deceased before even contacting the family, but that the stories imply in any way that it may be his fault. The family intends on investigating the accident to clear his name...
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    Three divers lose their lives at Chac Mool in Riviera Maya. 2 Brazillian, 1 Spaniard

    I see the Por Esto story does mention the Cenote operators and dive shop, I was not aware they were different. The other stories I saw only mentioned the dive shop but maybe they are both at fault. ---------- Post added April 22nd, 2012 at 05:08 PM ---------- Also here is an article with a...
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    Three divers lose their lives at Chac Mool in Riviera Maya. 2 Brazillian, 1 Spaniard

    Por Esto! | Yucatán Move on the picture to enlarge...... This same picture is posted with several different newspapers. After a Google search, there are many stories posted in reference to this and there are 3 main things being reported. 1) They think the guide rope was cut somehow. 2) They...
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    Three divers lose their lives at Chac Mool in Riviera Maya. 2 Brazillian, 1 Spaniard

    You might be right...Maybe he is referring to the fact they had penetrated past the sign, in violation of the Rec diver set limits. It will be interesting to see what is on that list.
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    First-hand account of down current, with video footage

    Oh well in that case I will will sternly reiterate:
  16. WSOPFAN

    First-hand account of down current, with video footage

    This is very poor advice and is totally incorrect....As a matter of fact practically every dive shop on that island knows these type of currents and worse happen at the northern dive sites and very far south, just about daily and they will NOT take you there without demonstrating your abilities...
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    First-hand account of down current, with video footage

    Posts 22 and 28......The DM went to rescue an AOW student and the instructor. I doubt the instructor needed to be rescued I think he was assisting the instructor with the student. I don't remember it being stated as they were brought up separately. You are right....post 28 does say he...
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    Three divers lose their lives at Chac Mool in Riviera Maya. 2 Brazillian, 1 Spaniard

    Now after the fact, the Civil Protection Drector says the Cenotes are being exploited and he is considering sanctions against the service provider. Google Translate He said he did not have a pattern of sinkholes that are exploited throughout the mapping of Solidarity, however, announced that...
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    First-hand account of down current, with video footage

    Actually I had to stop and erase what I had typed more than a few times for that response to "dive god mike". It was originally much worse........ ---------- Post added April 21st, 2012 at 10:26 PM ---------- We have also had some divers post not only their personal experiences from around...
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