12v Hookah Diving

Discussion in 'New Divers and Those Considering Diving' started by DivingOverboard, May 4, 2012.

  1. DivingOverboard

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    Has anyone tried one of these hookah diving kits they sell on Ebay? They run the $300-$500 range.They worth it? Im looking to try some light diving with one.
     
  2. Rich Keller

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    I use a 50' hose spliced between my first and second stages for that type of diving usually from a kayak. Should cost you about $50 to do it yourself and then use the gear you already have.
     

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  3. GrumpyOldGuy

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    OP may not be a certified diver, so he may not have the equipment. Without at least basic training there are risk even on Hookah or SNUBA (long hose on a tank). Diving looks easy, actually it is easy but there are some basic safety hazards like ascending while holding your breath, etc... that can seriously injure or kill you. I would definitely take at least a basic OW class just so you become aware of the potential issues.
     
  4. spectrum

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    I'll start by reiterating the concern about breathing compressed air without scuba training. Even at the modest depth of 15 feet that one of these maxes out at you can get hurt or die.

    I depending on the model there will be a finite life to the battery and I'm not sure how you manage that while diving. Deep cycle batteries, charging and replacement will soon make this a money pit.

    If you want to dive I would first throw a little money towards a discover dive and if you think this is your game then take an OW class. Once you do that I think the fascination with being tethered to an airbrush compressor will fade.

    I have assumed based on your lack of profile information that you are new to diving. Please come back with more details if this is incorrect.

    Pete
     
  5. fstbttms

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    And let's not get into another long discussion about the issues associated with using pneumatic tool hose as breathing hose, as pictured above. :shakehead:
     
  6. DivingOverboard

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    Thanks for the feedback. I am new to diving if anyone wants give me some diving pointers, Id appreciate it. Right now im only interested in shallow diving. Ive heard I could get an airbladder if I decide to try deeper diving?
    As for the hose Id buy my own dedicated diving hose.
    As for the economics Id dont see anything that comes close to this in price, and im on a budget.The batteries should last plenty,I wont be out there everyday.
    Right now Im leaning toward getting it.
     
  7. spectrum

    spectrum Dive Bum Wannabe ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Get certified by a professional instructor, anything less is perilous. Learning to dive by collecting pointers on the internet is even more dangerous.

    Pete
     
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  8. DivingOverboard

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    Getting no pointers is even more dangerous. :) Im only going down like 10 feet Im not going to pay somebody hundreds of dollars to teach me that. Anyway I think Im getting one Ill let you know how it goes.
     
  9. chrpai

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    Gotta love the gene pool.
     
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  10. BenjaminF

    BenjaminF DIR Practitioner

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    The gene pool itself, or the way that humanity adds it's own chlorine to the gene pool?
     
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  11. DivingOverboard

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    If anyone would like to lend me the money for expensive lessons for my death defying 10 feet dive Im listening. Discretion can be the better part of valor, but there is also a fine line between wise discretion and just being a big p****.
     
  12. herman

    herman Divemaster

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    You seem to be missing the point the others are trying to make. It is possible (quite easy actually) to seriously injure or even kill yourself when diving to 10 ft or less when breathing compressed air (and this hookah qualifies as compressed air) unless you understand what you are doing. This is not scare tactics to get you to spend money, it's basic dive physics and if you violate the laws of physics the penalties can be harsh. Compressed air diving is not the same as free diving and a lot more forces comes into play that you need to be aware of before grabbing a regulator and descending.
     
  13. chrpai

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    At the very least, check out this website:

    Hookah direct drive scuba diving equipment sales. Hose diving hookah

    What everyone is concerned about is barotrauma. Consider this. At 10' you are at 1.3 ATM. This is 30% more then sea level. If you rise from 1.3 to 1.0 with and don't exhale, well, I hope you death is quick. It probably won't be.

    At 110 feet you are at 4.3 ATM. Rise to 100 feet and you are at 4.0ATM. This is only a 7.5% difference. Still, you must be always breathing (the golden rule of scuba to prevent barotrauma ). To get to 110' you've gone through training and racked up experience.

    So I hope that explains why while hookah seems 'simple' compared to SCUBA that we are all concerned that you are actually facing certain yet previously unknown to you risk.
     
  14. GrumpyOldGuy

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    This post demonstrates the problem. Diving to 10' without training is not recommended, but generally safe IF you never hold your breath on one of these cheap battery hookah rigs

    The problem though is already you are thinking, get 10' worked out for a few dives , now I want to go deeper and I will get an "air bladder". Without even thinking you are going from something that is only slightly dangerous but ill advised, to something very dangerous and you don't even know its dangerous or why.

    Diving is not rocket science and the ocean is a beautiful place, but its also a silent killer. It exacts a high price on those who are ignorant and don't take the time to understand the dangers involved. When you are diving, you are alone, no 911, no one likely to rescue you or even tell you that you are in danger. The best you can hope for is a body recovery. This is why training is critical.
     
  15. EastEndDiver

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    The op doesn't realize that everytime you enter the underwater realm it is Death Defying,he doesn't know what he doesn't know.To spend $400. for a hookah rig and not spend anything on instructions is not only dangerous but extremely foolish bordering on total ignorance.
     
  16. DivingOverboard

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    GrumpyOldguy I think youre the one making sense on here. If I did plan on getting on air bladder and tried going down say 30 feet without training that would be dumb. Now if I go slow, keep breathing and only go down 10 feet the risks are really minimal. Anyway Im going to get one. Ill let you know how it all goes. If Im not back it didnt go well, lol.
     
  17. petrieps

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    Seriously, you're just wasting your money. I'm not even talking about the safety aspect of it. For 400 you could get open water certified and have 4 real dives under your belt. You will will tire of this device rather quickly and it will be virtualy worthless re-sale. Take this advice as you wish.
     
  18. spectrum

    spectrum Dive Bum Wannabe ScubaBoard Supporter

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    You continue to prove how ill advised you intentions are. And only reading though rose colored glasses would find an endorsement in Grumpyoldguys's post.
     
  19. DivingOverboard

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    Let me elaborate, my goal is diving in rivers looking for gold. Hookah would be the best option for this. If I find gold Ill bring you cautious people some pictures :).
     
  20. p1p

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    Guys free dive beyond 10 feet, heck pools are deeper, I guess I dont see the issue. Seems alittle overblown...
     

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