Accident in Brockville

Discussion in 'Accidents and Incidents' started by Ayisha, Jul 1, 2013.

  1. Ayisha

    Ayisha Surface Interval Member

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    There was a fatal accident on the Daryaw in Brockville yesterday morning. I was diving in Brockville this weekend and have interviewed witnesses. The Ontario Underwater Council is conducting an investigation and preparing an Incident Report.
     
  2. kelemvor

    kelemvor Loggerhead Turtle

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    Sorry to hear that news.

    I'm very curious to hear what went wrong; I've read a lot of posts here discussing why rebreathers are a big risk. Simultaneously an LDS is pushing Poseidon rebreather rigs pretty hard making it tempting to try.
     
  3. shoredivr

    shoredivr Great White

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    Sad to hear, I was down in B town this weekend.
     
  4. Pedro Burrito

    Pedro Burrito Administrator

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    I changed the title from Rebreather Diver Accident in Brockville to Accident in Brockville
     
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  5. Mofous

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  6. Ayisha

    Ayisha Surface Interval Member

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    Thank you Pedro. I knew the questions would come in right away about what equipment the diver was using and I simply put rebreather. It was not intended as some sort of judgement whatsoever, which is also why I did not name the manufacturer.

    Steve, you're being overly sensitive, IMHO. I can answer most of your questions, but I have not decided yet what should be shared before the report comes out, due to exactly what has happened in this thread already. If you want to speak privately, we can do that. We have a rb instructor and rb pilots on hand that we are consulting. All equipment was secured at the scene, is in police custody and will be examined by experts of their choosing.
     
  7. clownfishsydney

    clownfishsydney Manta Ray

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    I think it is relevant to put that this was a rebreather accident, just as much it would be to say it was a snorkelling accident or a free-diving accident rather than scuba diving.
     
  8. Pedro Burrito

    Pedro Burrito Administrator

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    Please focus on the specific accident.
     
  9. Ayisha

    Ayisha Surface Interval Member

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    Yes, it was a Poseidon. The investigation is far from over, however. Very briefly, the victim became unresponsive at depth with the loop out of his mouth. Unsuccessful attempts were made to give him a bailout bottle, and he was brought up. He was administered CPR, was defibrillated, transported to the hospital and was unfortunately pronounced dead. A preliminary OUC Incident Report will be published once the investigation is at least mostly complete.

    On behalf of the OUC, I express my sincere condolences to the victim's family and friends, many of whom are reading this thread. Please keep it respectful. If anyone has information they would like to share, please feel free to PM me or post here, thank you.
     
  10. Tortuga68

    Tortuga68 Divemaster

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    Does anyone have anything to say about the incident in question?
     
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  12. Hatul

    Hatul Great White

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    The rebreather is the elephant in the room. The second most likely suspect is a medical issue with the diver.

    The problem for the rebreather diver is that failure of the rb to provide gas with a safe range of PPO2 can impair the diver's mentation to correct the problem or go to bailout. When a person breathes a hypoxic mixture not only does it impair cognition and ability to solve simple problems but also they are not aware that they're impaired.
     
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  13. Tortuga68

    Tortuga68 Divemaster

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    I think you're looking for the other thread... it's two doors down on the left
     
  14. DiverSheila

    DiverSheila Garibaldi

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  15. Ayisha

    Ayisha Surface Interval Member

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  16. Ayisha

    Ayisha Surface Interval Member

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  17. Hatul

    Hatul Great White

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    The coroner said the cause was a heart attack. Is that the conclusion from an autopsy?

    Also even if he had a heart attack it still does not mean that that was the initiating cause of his death. For example let's say he had some coronary disease. A rebreather delivering a hypoxic mixture may precipitate a heart attack, but the underlying cause of the accident would still be rebreather failure. What was the result of the analysis of the rebreather?
     
  18. swamp diver

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    There is more than one fatality in that publication and it appears you have read an earlier one. See page 9 (pdf) for the fatality on June 30,2013.
     
  19. doctormike

    doctormike Moderator Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    A bit off topic, but I am impressed with the very existence of the Ontario Underwater Council and their fairly quickly released initial report. I'm not sure if we have a regional umbrella organization like that in the states.

    Generally, in these threads we are admonished to "wait for the final report of the investigation", but in most fatal accidents in the US this may never be available to the public (litigation reasons?). It is very helpful to other divers to have access to this information so that we can learn from mistakes.
     
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  20. Ayisha

    Ayisha Surface Interval Member

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    Hatul, as Swamp Diver pointed out, the fatality that you are referring to is a different accident that occurred earlier this year. Please scroll down to the accident that occurred on June 30th. The OUC does not have the results of Mr. Brow's autopsy at this time.
     

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