Big Bay Point

Discussion in 'Ontario' started by Norberto, Apr 10, 2012.

  1. Norberto

    Norberto Dive Shop

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    Hi Everybody
    I was wondering if there were any changes for this year as far as diving in Big Bay Point. Is it possible to obtain parking permit for divers living outside Berrie? Any information would be great.
    Thanks
    Norbert
     
  2. roastbeef

    roastbeef Barracuda

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    No! changes Norbert and permts are not going to happen they already started ticketing as of April 1st.
     
  3. Norberto

    Norberto Dive Shop

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    Thanks Roastbeef. It gets harder and harder to promote local diving but then it's getting easier and easier to promote dive travel to sunny locations :)
     
  4. roastbeef

    roastbeef Barracuda

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  5. ScubaSteve

    ScubaSteve Wow.....what a DB

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    I have a bother-in-law that is moving to Innisfill in June and thankfully he is a diver. What exactly is required to dive at BBP? Do residents get mailed permits that get displayed when parked at BBP (and elsewhere of course)? Do they need to request the permit?
     
  6. DT

    DT Nassau Grouper

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    Scuba Steve you asked all the question we have been asking the Innifvill township for several years now sense they implemented the no parking BS and no one can give us an answers typical tax money hard at work again.. What bothers me the most is the guy who at one time owned the house on the right side of the parking lot is the guy who pushed with a city councilor to get the parking bylaw inplace because he hated 30 plus diver students showing up every Sat and Sun morning disturbing the his peace and once the by law was past the moron put his house up for sale and moved.
     
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  7. Norberto

    Norberto Dive Shop

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    It's so wrong. Public access to the water and we can't enjoy it. Such a pile of crap :(
     
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  8. abnfrog

    abnfrog PADI Pro

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    well heres an idea we get a schuttle service going from a local parking lot 1 truck loads up the gear and transports it to the location . my plan is just that then ill ride my bicycle back to puck up the truck if the make me ill take the bike in the water with me !!! no ones going to stop me diving public places aftr all my years of military service !
     
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  9. cameron

    cameron Nassau Grouper

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    I live in innisfil and you need to get a permit from the town hall. You show proof of residency and you get 2 stickers for you vehicles. This is a parking permit for BBP as well as innisfil beach park.

    After seeing how divers treated that site I can hardly blame the town for doing it. Too tell you the truth I'm kind of glad they did.

    Cam
     
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  10. roastbeef

    roastbeef Barracuda

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    Cameron. First of all the divers have never ever made a mess there maybe a little noise at best. The persons who are making the mess are all the resident kids fishing, drinking and having little picknics at the docks edge than just getting up walking away and leaving there mess behind. In regards to the parking permit it does not exist yet as of May/12 of this year it still has not been set up and I dought it ever will be ass its been talked about it now for 2 years.
     
  11. elan

    elan DIR Practitioner

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    The parking and the site was really abused to the point that the dive shop cars were parked next to the picnic tables, the gear was laying all over the place. It's easy to blame the city for shutting it down but the dive shops were not helping it.
     
  12. cameron

    cameron Nassau Grouper

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    I have been to BBP MANY a time where there are 2 shops, 45 divers and they take over everything. Many back their truck right down to waters edge blocking access for others as well as spreading gear up and down the dock, not to mention the 20 cars that line the boulevard.

    Because of that I'd avoid BBP on weekend which in my opinion isn't fair because the vast majority of divers are not from my area, do not stop in town to support the local restaurants or gas bars and basically just use the dock without concern for our community.

    Since the town put up the ban, Ive seen the area become much more accessible for residents; divers, fisherman and kids a like. We've even attended town meeting in support of the ban and I really hope they follow through and enforce this further.

    Cam
     
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  13. roastbeef

    roastbeef Barracuda

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    Cameron

    I've been going to BBP for 40 years way back when the dock was made of wood and stretched further out to were the drop off begins so that larger boats could drop off cargo. Cameron are you realy an instructor you sure sound anti diver.
     
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  14. cameron

    cameron Nassau Grouper

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    Despite your regular attendance over the years you are still ignorant to the situation there now. I am not anti diver, im an avid diver that is against disrespectful people who use and give nothing back. I have had one shop owner tell me "**** the town" when the bylaw was put up, "I'll still keep diving here!" this while he had his 30 students completely monopolizing the dock

    I use BBP, I clean up after myself, I try to come at off hours, I strike up a convo with the local fishermen, I haven't had any problems. For the out of towners who are comming to use the property, give nothing back to the local buisness, walk all over the locals, run your ****ty learn to dive classes and kill the site for us all, go to HB or a quarry, or some where else.

    You contribute NOTHING to the community.

    Cam

    P.s. There is a garbage can for used condom caths, even if it's a far walk, use it!
     
  15. cameron

    cameron Nassau Grouper

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    Ha, and your opinion means what to me?
    I have a permit to park and voice in the local town hall meeting:)

    Maybe you can go dive at Johnson beach with all the shops ?

    Cam
     
  16. AndyDragon

    AndyDragon Nassau Grouper

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    Whatever, there's lot of places to dive, no sweat off my back.

    And just so we're all clear, you ONLY ever dive where you pay your taxes, right? You never dive in someone else's back yard, all your dives are all at BBP. Correct?
     
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  17. Groundhog246

    Groundhog246 Loggerhead Turtle

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    Because the kids use a lot of catheter condoms.
     
  18. roastbeef

    roastbeef Barracuda

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    Cameron Sir. you are a perfect example of what a diving instructor should not act like. Be a team player with in the diving community work togethor to make the sport grow and build revenue and awareness. Lobbying to have a dive site closed as a scuba instructor is BS. Can we all have your instructor number.
     
  19. ScubaSteve

    ScubaSteve Wow.....what a DB

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    I can say that the way that Innisfil has approached this has been nothing short of stupid. I moved my brother in law to Innisfil (#10 sideroad about 300 meters from the water) this weekend and there is absolutely no place to park unless you are a resident (I had to park outside of the driveway so I took my hit and got a ticket). Anyone that claims this is because too many non-residents showed up and did not support the local economy is just plain stupid. All the town is doing is pushing away anybody that is not a resident which makes it impossible for anybody to support the economy. I will go out of my way now to stay away from the area and if in the area, I will not support it at all if possible. They are just a bunch of knee-jerk idiots on town council IMO.

    People like Cameron are not trying to solve the problem. They are just trying to keep every outsider outside and nothing more.
     
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  20. DT

    DT Nassau Grouper

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    Thank you Cameron. Dah.
     

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