Divers, Lifeguards and EMTs needed in Lake Geneva, WI Saturday 9/19

[Mtnmedic]

Divers, Lifeguards and EMTs needed in Lake Geneva, WI Saturday 9/19

Hi!

Event Medical Services of NY is a company that staffs EMTs, Paramedics and Athletic Trainers, etc. at events of all kinds ranging from sports to festivals and concerts to TV/motion picture production.

We are seeking some great safety professionals to help us out with staffing a fun event in Lake Geneva, WI this Saturday 9/19 from 7am to 4pm. It's a military-style extreme obstacle course in which the water section is a 300' pond that is about 6-10' deep (still water, no currents).

Here's what we need!


·3 SCUBA Divers/Diver-Medics (paid at $175 for the day)
oYou will need your own BC, Tank, Weights, Fins, Mask and Dry or Wet Suit.
oSuited and at the ready, rotated out every two hours as required

·8 Lifeguards or Surface Water Rescue Specialists (paid at $150 for the day)
owill need either a Dry or Wet suit and fins (if you use them).
oWe will supply the rescue equipment.
oYou do not need to be a certified lifeguard if you have surface water rescue experience/certification.
oRotated assignments

·10-14 EMTs or Paramedics (paid at $125 for the day)
oFunctioning on a BLS/First Responder/First Aid level
oPosted at aid station and at various places around the venue
oNo equipment needed (HOWEVER....if you'd like to be considered for other types of events in your area, includings sports, fairs, festivals, concerts, races, TV/movie productions, clubs, etc. you will need a BLS kit that meets some basic requirements)

I need to get staffing in place by Friday! If you know of another person who is an EMT, Diver or Lifeguard (or surface water rescue tech), send them my way!

If you're interested in doing this, you may contact me directly via michael@medicsontheball.com or call/text my cell
541-279-4282, day or night.

Thanks!​

 

[Herb-alaska]

Divers, Lifeguards and EMTs needed in Lake Geneva, WI Saturday 9/19

Hi!

Event Medical Services of NY is a company that staffs EMTs, Paramedics and Athletic Trainers, etc. at events of all kinds ranging from sports to festivals and concerts to TV/motion picture production.

We are seeking some great safety professionals to help us out with staffing a fun event in Lake Geneva, WI this Saturday 9/19 from 7am to 4pm. It's a military-style extreme obstacle course in which the water section is a 300' pond that is about 6-10' deep (still water, no currents).

Here's what we need!


·3 SCUBA Divers/Diver-Medics (paid at $175 for the day)
oYou will need your own BC, Tank, Weights, Fins, Mask and Dry or Wet Suit.
oSuited and at the ready, rotated out every two hours as required

·8 Lifeguards or Surface Water Rescue Specialists (paid at $150 for the day)
owill need either a Dry or Wet suit and fins (if you use them).
oWe will supply the rescue equipment.
oYou do not need to be a certified lifeguard if you have surface water rescue experience/certification.
oRotated assignments

·10-14 EMTs or Paramedics (paid at $125 for the day)
oFunctioning on a BLS/First Responder/First Aid level
oPosted at aid station and at various places around the venue
oNo equipment needed (HOWEVER....if you'd like to be considered for other types of events in your area, includings sports, fairs, festivals, concerts, races, TV/movie productions, clubs, etc. you will need a BLS kit that meets some basic requirements)

I need to get staffing in place by Friday! If you know of another person who is an EMT, Diver or Lifeguard (or surface water rescue tech), send them my way!

If you're interested in doing this, you may contact me directly via michael@medicsontheball.com or call/text my cell
541-279-4282, day or night.

Thanks!​

I am not trying to be cranky here but to shed some light on why you are probably having a hard time getting response to your call for help. This is coming from a PSD ( volunteer ) a rescue diver, swift water rescue certified and a EMT ( volunteer for FD)

You are asking for a diver to be in the water say for 4 hours of a 8 hour day requiring probably 4 tanks of air and accepting his own liability for his actions all for the tidy sum of 175.00 I do not think that you will be able to staff this position. I personally would be one of the first to volunteer for this is it was through my PSD team which provides my air and covers my Liability. Liability is huge in any type of rescue even if you do everything right you have to be prepared to defend actions

You are asking for a EMT for 8 hours for $125.00 I know when I am with my dept on a call out my liability and medical direction is covered by the dept. SHould I elect to free lance on anything then I am on my own for both and my EMT cert is worthless without medical direction. If I am hired to staff a event I would be a paid professional and not covered by any good sam law again think liability


My Question is have you thought about these issues?

Inquiry mind only, obviously I can't come from Alaska to staff your event so it is just a academic question
Herb

 

[oly5050user]

I am not trying to be cranky here but to shed some light on why you are probably having a hard time getting response to your call for help. This is coming from a PSD ( volunteer ) a rescue diver, swift water rescue certified and a EMT ( volunteer for FD)

You are asking for a diver to be in the water say for 4 hours of a 8 hour day requiring probably 4 tanks of air and accepting his own liability for his actions all for the tidy sum of 175.00 I do not think that you will be able to staff this position. I personally would be one of the first to volunteer for this is it was through my PSD team which provides my air and covers my Liability. Liability is huge in any type of rescue even if you do everything right you have to be prepared to defend actions

You are asking for a EMT for 8 hours for $125.00 I know when I am with my dept on a call out my liability and medical direction is covered by the dept. SHould I elect to free lance on anything then I am on my own for both and my EMT cert is worthless without medical direction. If I am hired to staff a event I would be a paid professional and not covered by any good sam law again think liability


My Question is have you thought about these issues?

Inquiry mind only, obviously I can't come from Alaska to staff your event so it is just a academic question
Herb

I was thinking the same thing. Here in NYC we sometimes get TV and movie work at the LDS I work at.
For some thing like this we pay $500 to $600 and at times more, for the day , and feed them as well.
If more than 8 hours pay then is time and 1/2..

 

[Herb-alaska]

I was thinking the same thing. Here in NYC we sometimes get TV and movie work at the LDS I work at.
For some thing like this we pay $500 to $600 and at times more, for the day , and feed them as well.
If more than 8 hours pay then is time and 1/2..

I also do free lance dive work and for that I get 125 per hour to be in the water and 35 per hour to be ready to be in the water. If they offered me $175 for the day BYOA ( bring your own air) i would go ha ha ha

if they asked my dept to staff it I would say sure I would be there for free and bring my own lunch

Its all about how you ask. For me pay me fair or don't pay me, anything in between is an insult

As for EMT no way I am going to free lance that I can't afford to hire a MD to put his license on the line while acting as my medical direction

 

[Mtnmedic]

Gentlemen, allow me to make a few points:

1) Our company hires EMTs and Paramedics for their knowledge to work in a FIRST AID capacity, for which there is no medical direction required. Their job is to make a quick assessment as to whether EMS/ambulance is needed and to treat significant injuries in that capacity. They're not hired as EMTs or Paramedics. They're hired to perform FIRST AID and utilize the knowledge and experience they have to gain a better impression of what's going on and make better judgement on how to deal with the situation.

2) Our company hires personnel as independent contractors and not as employees or volunteers. As such, they are responsible for their own equipment, licenses, etc. This is no different than hiring a contractor to, say, repair your roof and bring his own tools. This is contract work not subject to the usual labor relations laws regarding employee hourly pay, overtime, etc.

3) This job site is located in Lake Geneva, WI, not New York or Alaska, where the cost of living is much higher and, as should be expected, the pay is much higher (especially Alaska). With respect to your cost of living and the money you earn for your work in those areas, all I can simply say is that we have offered a rate and it's up to the individual to decide if that's sufficient or not. Some folks have found these to be acceptable terms while some others don't. It's a business transaction, nothing personal nor does it say anything about anyone's level of professionalism or dedication to his/her craft. For some folks, it's more about doing something they enjoy as opposed to how much they make doing it.

4) To be clear about the divers, I said they simply need to be suited and at the ready for two hours then rotated out (perhaps I can help by saying that they do so one at a time). Since we are hiring at least 3 divers we would be rotating them out at two hours each, with the other two on break likely to be expected to remain as back-ups. The client expects this to be an easy day for divers as the likelihood of submerged persons needing rescue is quite low.

5) Our company provides insurance for events and staff functioning on behalf of our business.

Thank you for the lively discussion. It's okay to have and express different perspectives. However, if you feel more information is needed, I invite you to call our offices at 800-684-0556 ex. 102 to speak with Jason, who can explain things better than I can.

 

[Herb-alaska]

not to argue ok, but a professional M-F has to be a professional on Saturday so a Paramedic or EMT m-f will be judged in court as a paramedic or emt even if it happens on Saturday and Liability even if nothing goes wrong has to be considered all the time. That is why the good sam laws came into being so people not on the clock would not be held to the same level of liability as if they were on the clock, and good sam laws won't be in play if you are paid. Your Liability insurance will also seek to mitigate it's liability in the event of a " Bad" happening which means hang the independent contractor regardless of how you and your company want it to go. In court it is your insurance company setting the pace,

Again as you put it you it is for each to decide if this project is for them

 

[jbomb001]

I know once an emt even with a lapse in the license you will be tried in a court as an emt. Make one mistake and your all done. Regardless of what anyone says once you have been officially trained and certified your no longer covered by Good Samaritan Law..ever.
As a volunteer fireman and a psd. I would gladly help out if my dive team was invited to do so and my department was activated in such a manner that my actions were covered by my dept. And we actually do this locally for a polar plunge fundraising event once a year. But I would not recommend anyone take this responsibility on there own unless they are independently wealthy and have a large team of lawyers on retainer.

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