Diving with Salt Water Crocodiles

Discussion in 'Basic Scuba Discussions' started by SterlingDiver, Jan 22, 2005.

  1. SterlingDiver

    SterlingDiver Manta Ray

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    So the other day I am out "googling" around the internet and I am trying to find info. on diving the Great Barrier Reef and I come across a dive operators website that has a link to an article about diving with salt water crocs. Unfortunately, the shop must be out of business because all of the links on their home page were dead.

    Here is my questions:

    a) Do divers really dive with these bruts? They get almost as large as great white sharks.
    b) If so, has anyone on the board done so? Is it a reasonably safe thing to do or is it like a few divers (insane??) that snorkle or dive outside the cage with great whites in South Africa?
    c) Does the thought of this appeal to anyone else as much as it does to me??
    d) alternative dives with other species? IE alligators, caymen, etc.

    Let me know your thoughts and experiance.

    Dave
     
  2. archman

    archman Divemaster

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    I've heard about an acrylic tube that divers stick themselves inside to look at crocs... functionally similar to a shark cage. Problem is, the waters that crocs like is so turbid that you don't see the croc until it's pressed against the cylinder.

    I'll take great whites over saltwater crocs anytime. Crocs are bloody dangerous.
     
  3. DennisS

    DennisS Great White

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    Our ship pulled into Darwin and our divers were preparing for a hull dive. One of the divers asked a local about the sharks. He was told, don't worry about the sharks.................the salt water crocs ate them. I wish I had a camera to catch the looks.

    The boat ramps have warnings not to launch your boat at the same time every day because the crocs will get to know your schedule. Really!!!!!
     
  4. GDI

    GDI Artificer of Havoc & Kaos ScubaBoard Supporter

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    I've been in the springs with alligators (some big bad boys) and sharks but crocs are a different story. You are most certainly on their food chain list. They are very aggressive and territorial.
     
  5. crpntr133

    crpntr133 lost, even with a compass

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    I know someone that WAS going to dive an inlet in Mexico until one of the locals showed them what a salt water crock will do with chum.
    Someone else on SB posted a question about crocks/gators in FL. It was posted later that the crocks will leave you alone as long as you don't approach them.
     
  6. Donnie

    Donnie Nassau Grouper

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    Well... HECK!!! What's the fun in THAT! ;)
     
  7. SeanQ

    SeanQ Single Diver

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    Get Steve Irwin to be your dive buddy. At least you'll be okay. :)
     
  8. crpntr133

    crpntr133 lost, even with a compass

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    By crocky he's a big one!! Watch me as I dive under him and rub his belly while donating my octo to my DB. If the crock floods my mask I will simply squeeze him and use his breath the clear my mask.
     
  9. H2Andy

    H2Andy Surface Interval Member

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    that's absolutely true for Florida alligators and crocodiles, with some caveats:

    1. during mating season, they are much more territorial and are dangerous

    2. after mating season, they guard their nest, so... don't go hear
    their nests

    3. if you are small (i.e. a child), you are a target for the larger ones

    4. if you are a dog and near the water, you are a target

    5. if people start feeding them, they'll come out looking for food and
    may attack because they're not afraid of people any more

    the Florida crocs live in the extreme south of Florida; the rest of the state
    just has gators. i've seen tons of gators, but never a croc.

    alligators have a "blunt" or "roundish" snout, whereas crocs have a "narrow"
    or "pointy" snout and you can see the teeth even when they have their
    mouths closed.
     
  10. Nemrod

    Nemrod Giant Squid

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    Alligators are not generally as aggresive as crocidiles. I grew up on a lake in La. We had alligators all over. They never bothered me but on the one occasion one went after my dog I killed him with my rifle by walking up to him and putting the muzzle on his skull, he had come out of the water and was after my dog. Essentially they would often sun themselves on our boat dock and in order for me to use the dock I had to go kick them and pull their tails till they left. I wish I had a picture of a gator in NW La. recently over 15 feet long that killed a deer and was swimming with the critter in it's mouth. Gators will charge and they can move real fast.
    I note that the dive shop you tried to contact was not responsive to your inquiry! That may be the result of their having been eaten by a crocidile! I would avoid saltwater crocs, fw gators are not so much a problem. N
     
  11. DennisS

    DennisS Great White

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    Saltwater crocs were very rare in south florida but preservation efforts are having an effect. Several have been seen around biscayne bay and two have taken up residence on the U of Miami campus. They caught one but the other has managed to avoid their best efforts. I imagine in a few years there will be some problems, kind of like reintroducing grizzlies into an area. It should be interesting.
     
  12. Trisha

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  13. crpntr133

    crpntr133 lost, even with a compass

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    The accompanying text is false, however. The photos weren't taken at Cross Lake, Louisiana. Jenkins says she was about 40 miles south of Savannah, Georgia, on her way to start a prescribed fire at Harris Neck National Wildlife Refuge, when she spotted the gator making off with its lunch from her helicopter (which does not belong to KTBS-TV in Shreveport, by the way).

    My question is, what was she doing with the deer in the helicopter in the first place?
     
  14. H2Andy

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    hehehe... talk about a misplaced modifier. good one. and how did
    the gator get into the helo to get her deer?

    "when she spotted, from her helicopter, the gator making off with its lunch."
     
  15. Allison Finch

    Allison Finch Loggerhead Turtle

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    I saw a great pic of a small crock checking out a photographer in PNG. A smack on the snout with the housing sent it on its way. Good thing it wasn't one of the biggies. I've dived areas in PNG with mangroves all around that would be perfect habitat, but have never seen one. I know they were there because we were eating an awful lot of crock meat on that trip. YUM!!
     
  16. WaterDawg

    WaterDawg Deep South DIR

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    I did a report once for my Marine Biology class about salt water crocs, the biggest has been 33ft and they are mean and eat anything. You couldnt pay me to do it.
     
  17. The Kraken

    The Kraken He Who Glows in the Dark Waters (ADVISOR) ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Salt water crocodiles are not indigenous to North America. The crocodiles found in the souther part of Florida are caymans. They don't get to be very large.

    Many people often confuse crocs and alligators.
     
  18. H2Andy

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    hmmm.... not sure i agree there, Kraken

    both cocrodylus porosus (salt water crocodile) and crocodylus acutus (American
    crocodile) belong to the crocodylidae family.

    the caymans belong to the alligatoridae family, and are related to the American alligator (alligator mississippiensis).

    the American crocodile is in fact a crocodile, not a cayman, and is often
    called the "American salt water crocodile," and is indigenous.

    maybe you are thinking of caiman crocodilus (common caiman),
    which WAS introduced into Florida from Central America.
     
  19. The Kraken

    The Kraken He Who Glows in the Dark Waters (ADVISOR) ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Yep, that would be the one.
    But we don't have the genus of the one like in Austrailia, right???
     
  20. H2Andy

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