Lead Weights: Are prices going up?!

Discussion in 'General Scuba Equipment Discussions' started by Phil_218, Jan 6, 2009.

  1. Phil_218

    Phil_218 Divemaster

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    Yesterday I stopped by a LDS and purchased some weights. I bought four 3lb and two 4lb weights (20lbs), all uncoated thread-through sea pearls. The total price with tax was $80, which comes out to paying $4 per pound. Going into the shop I knew I could get these items at a lower price on-line, but I wanted to give some support to the local LDS. According to the shop attendant, the prices of lead have sky-rocketed recently. Have you seen the same increase in the prices of weights and do you think $4/lb is higher than it should be?

    As always, thanks for sharing your opinions.
     
  2. masterof0

    masterof0 Manta Ray

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    4 per pound seems to be pretty common around NorCal
     
  3. Dtaine

    Dtaine Barracuda

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    $4 per pound is right around what I paid when I purchased a weight belt and weights in September
     
  4. NudeDiver

    NudeDiver Loggerhead Turtle

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    The price of lead has shot up in the last year or so. A lot of non-diving places around here talk about and complain about it.

    That said - the price for weights around here is $6/lb last I checked. I got some used on craigslist and I paid $2/lb for them.
     
  5. themagni

    themagni Surface Interval Member

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    All metals have shot up, lead is no exception. Raw lead in this area goes for $4/pound. In dive-ready form, you're looking at (per pound) $5 for plain unholed, $6 for belt-ready, and $8 for shot.

    Used lead doesn't go bad and people are giving up on diving all the time. Lead doesn't have very much profit to it, so your local LDS won't be making very much off your purchases.
     
  6. jwalko

    jwalko Barracuda

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    Regarding the price of lead, I was looking in my local sporting goods store last week for lead shot. I wanted to fill a weight pouch and was considering lead shot for reloading shotgun shells. I've no idea if this would work because I don't know if the shot is too fine or not (different sizes are available). Regardless, 25lb of lead shot was $68.00, which is about $2.75 per pound.

    I didn't buy the 25 lbs, because I only needed about 4 lbs. I ended up buying lead weights that are designed to anchor decoys. They work, but I don't like them. They are easy to cut to length and very malleable, but this weight pouch mounts on the inside of my back plate in the middle, and they press against my back...not comfortable. In other words, I was trying to find a less expensive alternative, and may end up just scrapping the whole idea and going back to the lead shot anyway.

    john
     
  7. NudeDiver

    NudeDiver Loggerhead Turtle

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    Not a bad idea - but you can be buying into a lot of hassle. If you really only need 4 pounds, it seems better to just buy it, even at $5/lbs or something. It's still only $20. Even so, I'd still check craigslist (et. al.) first.
     
  8. GrumpyOldGuy

    GrumpyOldGuy Great White

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    Go to your local trap or skeet range. They often collect and sell used shot from the range. Its is lousy shot for reloading (not round anymore) but for weight or remelting it is pretty cheap.
     
  9. torqd

    torqd Scuba Instructor

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    It's the price for transporting the materials that is being reflected in the purchase price. First to the manufacturer in raw form and then to market as a finished product.

    Personally, I am not a big fan of soft weights. If the bag breaks you have leakage which could poison the food chain, but there are also many more pieces to rub together which might create lead dust which is potentially more harmful to the food chain.

    I've not researched it, but I would wonder if the lead shot isn't too soft and might powder more readily than proper dive shot.

    Don't get me wrong, I believe soft weights have a place, they just are not for me.
     
  10. Jaksonbrown

    Jaksonbrown Nassau Grouper

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    Paying 4-6 bucks per lb for weight is insane.... Go to Cabelas or some other outdoor store and buy some lead shot for shotguns... Cabelas sells it for 36 bucks for 25lbs... Go home and use your vacume pack food sealer and make up whatever size pouches you want..... They are durable and waterproof therefore no harm to the environment either...

    They work great.... I have made up over 100lbs of it varying from 2-5lb weights and have never had one bit of trouble with them.

    Samson
     
  11. SparticleBrane

    SparticleBrane Surface Interval Member

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    You guys are getting the shaft...

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  12. Miller64

    Miller64 Single Diver

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    we used to get lead tire weights and melt them down to make fishing lures...you can make a mold
     
  13. ruready7

    ruready7 Barracuda

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    That is a good idea. Never thought of it.
     
  14. PhilEllis

    PhilEllis Dive Shop

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    Lead diving weight is expensive....probably more expensive than it should be assuming perfect business conditions and the current price of lead. In house processing costs represent much of the price, regardless of the price of lead. I would also expect that Sea Pearls (and other companies) are currently suffering from forward metal buys made months ago, at higher prices. As inventory at the manufactures sells down, and assuming that the price of lead continues to fall, I expect to see these prices decrease.

    Phil Ellis
    www.divesports.com
     
  15. Underwater Ogre

    Underwater Ogre Manta Ray

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    The selling price of lead doesn't correspond with market prices. All ferrous and non-ferrous metals have gone way down, as far as selling or recycling...but try to buy it...wow.

    I like the Cabelas idea,

    U/O
     
  16. Phil_218

    Phil_218 Divemaster

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    The LDS clerk said the higher prices were due to the expense of disposing of the waste product after making the material/weights.

    I too like the Cabela's idea and may look into doing something similar in the future.
     
  17. ZzzKing

    ZzzKing Loggerhead Turtle

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    I bought 2x3# Sea Pearls today at Scubatoys. Came to about $2.50/pound.
     
  18. no excuses

    no excuses Nassau Grouper

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    I bought some of Ebay for 1.50$ pound and free shipping. It was 4.50$ pound at my local LDS.
     
  19. Shaka Doug

    Shaka Doug Surface Interval Member

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    You have to figure in the shipping. A major additional expense for us when talking about sea pearls or other dive weights here in Hawaii. I bet you can find a really good deal on weights if you buy used, just may take a little longer to get exactly what you're looking for.
     
  20. aascubagirl

    aascubagirl Scuba Instructor

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    Weights have definitely gone up over here in Hawaii over the past year so what the OP experienced is not out of the norm. I cannot believe the Ebay price posted above and that it included shipping! The internet never ceases to amaze me.
     

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