Looking to buy a new Dive computer and need some help

Discussion in 'Computers, Gauges, Watches and Analyzers' started by Fire_medic_RescueDiver, Sep 20, 2004.

  1. Fire_medic_RescueDiver

    Fire_medic_RescueDiver Angel Fish

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    I am looking to buy a new dive computer. I have an IDI Bravo 1 know and would like to upgrade. I want one that has the tank pressure in the PC and must be a console kind. I was looking at the DACOR DARWIN AIR/NITROX INTEGRATED COMPUTER, and the AERIS ATMOS AI AIR/NITROX DIVE COMPUTER. I would like it to be liberal not conservative on the dive tables. It must have a back light and compass. If you have any other ones that I should look at please feel free to reply. I an also looking for pro's and con's on these two list above and on what ever you may suggest.

    Thanks,
    Matt

    Remember, a bad of diving is always better than a good day at work. As long as no one gets hurt while diving.
     
  2. jstahlman

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    Aeris has a trade in program for that old Bravo
     
  3. Quarrior

    Quarrior Loggerhead Turtle

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    Can't speak about the models you listed but, IMHO you can't do any better than the a Suunto Vytec AI computer matched up with a Suunto SK7 compass.
     
  4. outlawaggie

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    I have the Aeris and love it.
     
  5. AngelitaDiver

    AngelitaDiver Garibaldi

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    Hi Matt, quick question for you. Do you know approx how old the bravo one model is? I'm testing out some used scuba gear to buy which includes the IDI Bravo One but was curious to find out about when that model first came out so I can price it accordingly. It looks like an older model so I don't want the guy to overcharge me. I think he wants to sell it for $250. I looked up the company online and they actually don't exist anymore. It was taken over by XS Scuba. Did you ever upgrade to the Aeris AI? One of the divers that I dove the Cenotes with had an Aeris AI and he absolutely loved it. He showed me some of the features and it looked like a really great model. Expensive but very nice.
    Thanks!
     
  6. NetDoc

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    Aeris and Oceanic have my vote. :D
     
  7. LSDeep

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    if youre thinking about a vytek - go the extra 100 bucks and get yourself a vr-3! upgradeable by software and halfway future proofen. if you insist on the wireless transmitter look also into cochran and scubapro. while i think suunto are reliable computer, they just bug me as overly restrictive and with an eye on poss. entry level tech diving useless.
    if you just want a conservative, reliable rec computer with all bells and whistles its possibly a good choice. once again, look into sp, aeris and some other stuff for the best "bang for the buck".
    this days there are 100th of good computers out there, the problem is to narrow down what your diving requires now or in the near future to find the best deal for you.
    several companies offer trade in programs this days - something to consider, but carefully. its not worth "throwing away" a decent computer for a 100 or 200 dollar discount.
    evaluate your diving now and your plans in the near future and buy accordingly. divecomputers this days evolve nearly as fast as your computer at home, so take it easy on big spending.
    another one to think about - many computers this days are on the rgbm based model - it seems fine with rec diving but causing serious issues in tech diving. if you intend to do that, stay away / find one where you can turn of the rgbm mode.
     
  8. PerroneFord

    PerroneFord DIR Practitioner

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    He said he wanted a liberal computer. The Suunto computers do not normally come to mind. And yes I know some of them can be modified to be a bit more liberal. Actually, I think all of them can, but that's a kludge.

     
  9. CompuDude

    CompuDude Divemaster

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    Uwatec SmartCom would get my vote, if it has to be in a console. Or perhaps the Oceanic Plus2.

    Why does it have to be in a console?
     
  10. Tamas

    Tamas Loggerhead Turtle

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    Oceanic all the way!
     
  11. Doug Krause

    Doug Krause Equipment Manufacturer

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    I think a tear just rolled down my cheek...
     
  12. AngelitaDiver

    AngelitaDiver Garibaldi

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    Thanks everyone for all your tips and quick responses!
     
  13. NetDoc

    NetDoc Chairman of the Board

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    Actually, they can only be made MORE CONSERVATIVE. At least the Suuntos that I have used.
     
  14. NetDoc

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    I was just introduced to the VEO 250 this past year and I bought four for my Student gear. Wow! I am planning to buy four more! They are easy to use and teach and they do EVERYTHING I need them to do, except access ScubaBoard during my safety stop! :D Who would of thought that something THIS INEXPENSIVE would work so well? Maybe I'll finally give up my Cobra for an AI VT3 or Atom 1.0??? :D
     
  15. PerroneFord

    PerroneFord DIR Practitioner

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    Trust me, they can be made LESS conservative too. At least the Nitrox ones can.
     
  16. NetDoc

    NetDoc Chairman of the Board

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    The Cobra and the Mosquito can only be set to be More conservative. I own both and have played with that setting. They are rather proud of this fact. Of course, they might have changed their mind about that. Too bad they don't see fit to have a rep monitor the Board!
     
  17. PerroneFord

    PerroneFord DIR Practitioner

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    Pete,

    The conservatism is tracking inspired nitrogen. You just need to find a way to tell your computer you are inspiring LESS nitrogen which will make it more liberal. As I said, its a kludge. But very effective. And it works with any of the SUUNTOs that do Nitrox.
     
  18. NetDoc

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    The only way to do that is to fudge on your oxygen, which is not merely a "kludge". There is a programable conservatism factor. Normal or high.

    Of course, reprogramming the ROM of the computer is beyond the ken and abilities of MOST divers and is way beyond anything ever intended by Suunto. If you do this, you are no longer using Suunto's algorythms.
     
  19. PerroneFord

    PerroneFord DIR Practitioner

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    Yes, fudge the oxygen. If it's a nudge, then the parameters track pretty well. I wouldn't use it outside of more than 3-5% though.
     
  20. NetDoc

    NetDoc Chairman of the Board

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    I wouldn't dive it that way at all. Init pergamentum: exit pergamentum! (Garbage in: Garbage out!)
     

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