Not allowed on a boat because of your dive agency card?

Discussion in 'Q and A for Scuba Certification Agencies' started by pheel, Mar 14, 2011.

  1. pheel

    pheel Angel Fish

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    Hello all,

    I was told 4 years ago when I started diving that I might not be allowed to dive at a dive center different from my agency cert card. In other word, a NAUI diver might not be able to dive in a PADI resort...

    It sounded BS to me that a dive center would refuse business. Well we never know.

    just wondering if it had happened to someone?

    pheel
     
  2. Cave Diver

    Cave Diver Moderator Staff Member

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    I've never had a problem with a card from another agency as long as it was an equivalent level for the dive I was attempting to do.
     
  3. Wookie

    Wookie ScubaBoard Business Sponsor ScubaBoard Business Sponsor

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    Pheel, in the distant past many PADI resorts would refuse CMAS or BSAC cards. I believe that is now in the past. BSAC and CMAS did not follow the RSTC standards. Who issued your card?
     
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  4. Peter_C

    Peter_C Orca

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    My friend almost got denied diving a Florida wreck because the DM had never heard of GUE, and stated they required a AOW card. GUE lists max depth as 100ft right on the card, which was enough to do the wreck. Eventually she gave up and let him dive in his well used Hogartian gear.

    I have heard in places like France they do not look highly upon training agencies like PADI since they require more stringent training standards in France.
     
  5. Mayor

    Mayor Photographer

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    Most ops just want the AOW card. You could have tech 2 or cave 2 training but they still want the AOW card. I always get a good laugh out of it.
     
  6. gypsyjim

    gypsyjim I have an alibi ScubaBoard Supporter

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    I have read some time back of some dive ops not honoring PADI certs, in other parts of the world where CMAS is the standard. I have no idea how prevalent this was, if it really was, or if this is still the case.

    I have never had any issues, beyond one time I had to do a refresher dive, to confirm my skills, as my original Y card was the only one with me, and it was pretty severely damaged by all the years in my wallet.

    Figure with my Y, CMAS, and PADI cards all in my log book now, when I travel I pretty much have it covered for most recreational diving.
     
  7. pheel

    pheel Angel Fish

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    I did all my courses at a local PADI school.
     
  8. emoreira

    emoreira Loggerhead Turtle

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    I'm SSI certified and have dived several times with PADI groups and DMs.
    However, in south Brazil, in Bombinhas (known as the diving capital of the Santa Catarina State), where there are several operators, a friend of mine was told to go to the PADI boat instead of the diving boat I've recommended that is from a SSI operator.
     
  9. Jim Lapenta

    Jim Lapenta Tech Diver

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    Ditto, YMCA Silver Instructor, SEI Instructor, CMAS 2 star Instructor, NAUI Helitrox, and PADI DM. Only issue I might have is with the moron who will not accept my Helitrox (NAUI entry level trimix) to get a nitrox fill. But then again a place that dumb I likely don't want to dive with anyway. Who knows what else they don't know? But I carry one of my nitrox cards anyway. It doesn't say nitrox instructor on any of my cards even though I can teach it.
     
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  10. vladimir

    vladimir Giant Squid

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    I actually had some issues with my YMCA card a long time ago (80s?). I was never prevented from diving, but it was questioned a few times.
     
  11. tbone1004

    tbone1004 Orca

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    Hrrm, could be a problem. Have tech cave but not AOW... woops, oh well. If they have issues with that then I don't want to dive with them anyway
     
  12. gypsyjim

    gypsyjim I have an alibi ScubaBoard Supporter

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    My only problem with my Y cert was that mine was so tattered it was illegible. When I learned that the YMCA card is a cross over to the CMAS (they honored each others certs because of the training involved), I applied for the CMAS card, and carry them both when I travel.

    I did some PADI training later, as my '70's Y training needed a bit of updating over the years, simply because the sport keeps evolving.
     
  13. NWGratefulDiver

    NWGratefulDiver Mental toss flycoon ScubaBoard Supporter

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    I was once refused service in Maui because of agency. Stopped into a shop near where we were staying to sign up for a boat out to Molokini the next day. The fellow said I needed an AOW certification. So I pulled out my YMCA Advanced Open Water card. He told me he couldn't accept it. So I then pulled out my NAUI Instructor card. He said he couldn't accept that one either. I asked him what he could accept, and he said it had to be a PADI card.

    Sorry to say, I couldn't accommodate ... I don't own one ...

    [​IMG]

    We walked across the street to another dive shop, who was happy to take us out ...

    ... Bob (Grateful Diver)
     
  14. Farback

    Farback Regular of the Pub

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    I've always found that grey hair, gear older than the kid behind the counter, and the color of my money has sufficed no matter which card I bring along.
     
  15. Nemrod

    Nemrod Giant Squid

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    I have had, mostly in the 80s when padi was going berserk, a few issues with my Y cards and my wife still only has Y cards. But I just pulled out another, really, these days, sometimes, many times, nobody even asks to see my cards. I don't show any professional level cards to go diving, just my NAUI AOW.

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  16. diverrick

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    "YMCA" LOL!!!! Now your dating yourself there. I got mine there in 76.Very thorough class, MOre like boot camp. Sure was a far better class than the cert class my wife got decades later.
    I lost my card a few years ago and called YMCA to get it replaced. They insisted they had never did SCUBA classes, ever... I had to laugh, as those folks had not even been born back then.
    I still like to show off my card on trips. Single stage regs, no gauges, no BC's, huge masks,diamond black rubber suits with the all needed repair glue in tow.. talc powder so you could get the darned things on.. Made our own weights from old tire weights. Man that's bringing back some memories now.
     
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  17. japan-diver

    japan-diver Scuba Instructor

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    I don't think I have shown a card other than "VISA" to go diving in over 10 years. I normally have a card stuck in my wallet somewhere if asked but no one usually asks to actually see the card.
     
  18. ajduplessis

    ajduplessis Loggerhead Turtle

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    Complete BS, however I am very sure this still happens in smaller remote resorts.
     
  19. seasick

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    I have never come across an operator who refuses to bring you diving once you put cold hard cash on the table. You don't even need a c-card.........of course having your own gear helps......


    Best regards,
    SS
     
  20. tstormdiver

    tstormdiver Tech Diver

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    Never ceases to amaze me........ demanding an AOW card,... with the possibly of only 9 dives total & possibly never without an instructor......:shakehead:
     
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