Padi Instructors, France

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Situation is also similar in Turkey also. Difference here is you can work as PADI instructor, give certificates but no Turkish citizen can dive if they don’t have CMAS certificate :) If you are a citizen of another country then there is no problem. Weirdness is all over the world.
Situation is also similar in Turkey also. Difference here is you can work as PADI instructor, give certificates but no Turkish citizen can dive if they don’t have CMAS certificate :) If you are a citizen of another country then there is no problem. Weirdness is all over the world.
Hi, thanks for your news from Turkey! Happy Diving! Best wishes.
 
Unless it has changed the situation is easy enough. The French state requires a BEES which allows you to teach. That is a state exam and independent of Scuba agency training. PADI OWSI exempts you from a huge amount of the exam. Technically a PADI OWSI cannot dive to 20m+ without a guide as they do not have CMAS 3star.

A visiting boat follows it's own rules - but your club RIB needs a SSR to sail in overseas waters. There is no need for a local guide.

The rules are mainly from FFESSM and not law and the main issue is that French clubs and shops tend to use FFESSM insurance (AXA).

It is the BEES that is the hard bit as you really need to speak/read French quite well to get through it. There are plenty of PADI schools and instructors in France, most instructors also teach FFESSM as that is what the customers want.
Hi, would you be able to provide any more information about visiting boats and not requiring the French licenses or local guides. Where did you get this info?
 
To the best of my knowledge (I'm NOT a lawyer):

1. The Code du Sport is part of the law, not just FFESSM internal rules. It applies to all structures organizing recreational dives in France (well european France, overseas territories have a bunch of status and I'd be surprised if none of them had the power to organize diving in another way). You can dive with your friends without respecting them (how well insurance and civil law will consider your actions if an issue appear is another question), at least if the owner of the place allows you to dive there (that's easy for the sea, for lakes and quarries, YMMV; note that cave diving is not considered as recreational diving and I know nothing about the rules applying there). In general (organized diving or not) some places such as natural parks may have additional rules.

2. To work in France as a recreational scuba instructor (or in fact any sport instructor) you need one of the state delivered certification (BPJEPS, DEJEPS, DESJEPS, BEES). Those cursus covers more things than just scuba diving skills, the most obvious being the applicable laws. You may get credit for (part of?) the scuba diving skills if you are already a scuba instructor from another system.

3. To do non-profit scuba instruction, you need either an instructor certification from a French organization (FFESSM, FSGT, perhaps some others) or from the CMAS.

4. There must be a CMAS** instructor or someone with a corresponding french certification organizing the dive. There are other rules about equipment needed, number and level of divers in a group, depth limits, ...

5. Some level of certification doesn't allow to dive without a guide. CMAS instructors (*, ** or ***) can be such a guide. There is a french certification which allow to be such a guide without being an instructor.

So I see two possibilities:

1. You come with your friends in your boat and dive. The Code du Sport doesn't apply. Some other regulations may apply.

2. You come as part of an organization (say your dive club). The Code du Sport applies. Only people with a relevant french certification may be payed for diving. You need to have a CMAS** instructor as organizer of the dive and respect all the other rules.
 

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