Recent Lake Pleasant conditions/reports

Discussion in 'Southwestern Region' started by booth22, May 21, 2008.

  1. booth22

    booth22 Scuba Instructor

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    Since the original LP thread was going in a different direction, how about a thread for conditions/dive reports (perhaps a sticky thread?)

    Location: west of the 10 lane boat ramp past the road that runs into the water

    Temps: Around 70

    Depth: Stayed shallow, around 38' max (conducting some OW check-out dives)

    Vis: 10' or so

    Saw a few fish, and our student did excellent! Another new diver to join the mix...
     
  2. bobfer

    bobfer Angel Fish

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    Location: Saguaro Keyhole

    Although the lake has been pretty bad lately it seemed like it was clearing up. That is until this weekend.

    Visibility 1ft at 20'

    Increased to 2 ft down to 90' but was pitch black under 30'

    I'd have to say this lake is done for another summer. The water wasn't the usual green, it was more like brown in the shallows.

    Back to Vista Point.

    Bob
     
  3. ScubaSteve2000

    ScubaSteve2000 Manta Ray

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    Good Idea Kris! I was getting ready to pull the trigger myself. I'm looking forward to getting back to LP after the memorial Day weekend. See all y'all then.

    Steve.
     
  4. ScubaSteve2000

    ScubaSteve2000 Manta Ray

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    I'm heading to the lake this Saturday. Haven't been for a couple of weeks. What are the conditions?

    Steve.
     
  5. ScubaSteve2000

    ScubaSteve2000 Manta Ray

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    Lake Pleasant conditions as of 5/31...

    I met Josh, Bill and Mike at the west enterance to the lake. We arrived at the lake at about 7:30 and realized that we probably should have gotten there about a 1/2 hour earlier. There was already a line of cars at the enterance. We dove at Beismeyer Point. Surface temps were in the upper 60's/ lower 70's. We hit a thermocline at about 45 feet and another one at about 60 feet. Temp at 72 feet was 61 degrees.

    The vis was bad enough that we found it difficult to keep together as a group of 4 so we opted for two two-man dive teams. That made it a bit easier to keep coordinated.

    Vis was somewhat less than arm's reach untill we got to 45 - 50 feet where it improved the deeper we went. By the time we were at 60 feet the vis was about 15 - 20 feet (almost as good as San Carlos). We saw a couple of big bass and the small fry kept just on the edge of visibility.

    Boat traffic was as usual for this time of year. I'm interested in finding out what the conditions are at Vista Point. We definately have to start getting to the lake earlier so we can get 3 dives in before the craziness starts.

    I answered my questions about the lake. Yes, you still need your hood, gloves and 7mm wetsuit. We had a great time and I wanted to thank Bill, Mike and Josh for making it a good day.
     
  6. bobfer

    bobfer Angel Fish

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    Surface temp about 70
    Vis down to 40 (first thermocline) was mabye 5 feet.

    Suprisingly vis improved drastically under 80 ft. By 130' it had to be 25-30' and the temperature had dropped to 52 degreees.

    Bob
     
  7. PhxSki

    PhxSki Nassau Grouper

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    Thanks to Steve, Josh and Mike for another great day at the lake on Saturday morning. It is a real pleasure to dive with these guys.
     
  8. ScubaSteve2000

    ScubaSteve2000 Manta Ray

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    Bob,

    What time did you dive there and how was the boat traffic? It sounds like the vis wasn't much better than Beismeyer Point. Temp was in the low 60's at about 70 feet. Couldn't find deeper than 70-something. But hopefully you weren't playing dodge-boat.

    Steve.
     
  9. RAWalker

    RAWalker Divemaster

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    Hi All at the lake today met up with Steve and Bill and got to join them on their second and third dives of the day. (Thanx again for allowing me to join in the fun)
    The water is warming up and I dove with a shorty and 3mm for a total of 5mm over my torso. I was very comfortable through the first thermocline and even dealing with the second wasn't so bad that felt like I needed to rush out of it. Minimum temperature was about 58F

    I was diving my new kit although with a rental computer (mine is on it way back from an upgrade) This is my first BP/wing an OMS SS plate,comfort harness, 45# bungee wing w/STA, an Oceanic Delta 4 reg and Aquatec Air3 octo.

    I guessed I needed 10# of lead to sink and it wasn't too bad I may be able to trim a couple lbs off that as I get used to it.

    Had a lot of fun while my wife Nancy did her first 2 ow checkout dives with Mindy. She will be working on the rest tomorrow. So I'll be back out there is anyone wants to dive.
     
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  10. booth22

    booth22 Scuba Instructor

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    I'll keep it simple, Rob covered most of it..

    Location:Beismeyer Point

    Temps: 73 surface (about) and 59 at 70 feet

    Depth: First dive 70 feet, second dive for Bob and I was 50 feet

    Vis: around 5 feet +/- a few

    Saw a big largemouth bass and had fun diving down the road into the lake, a new dive for me (and Bob too).

    We'll be back tomorrow for more fun!
     
  11. RSimmons

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  12. SCUBAholicEd

    SCUBAholicEd Nassau Grouper

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    Beismeyer is the point just west of the spillways. I don't know how to attach a map here but on the map you have linked it is just above the "AR" of South Park Rd. The point looks like a sun Devil. The right horn is the road that goes into the lake. Love this dive site!!!! :D
     
  13. bobfer

    bobfer Angel Fish

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    Saw a lot of divers at VP today. The water is staying pretty consistent, poor vis to 80ft then picks up considerably. Once your eyes adjust there was visible light at 100'. All in all a good day.

    I have seen a few muscles in the past but noticed lately a lot of rocks are being covered by them.

    Bob
     

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  14. SCUBAholicEd

    SCUBAholicEd Nassau Grouper

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    Are they Zebra?
    Any special place or depth?
     
  15. bobfer

    bobfer Angel Fish

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    I'll have to pay more attention. It was just something that caught my eye that I haven't seen before.

    Bob
     
  16. booth22

    booth22 Scuba Instructor

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    I noticed lots of them on our deep dive saturday- they were smaller, maybe zebra- and there were plenty of them on the dive. I didn't have a camera, or I'd have snapped a photo or two. They were pretty small though, maybe 1/2 inch and less in length?



    Onto the dives..

    Sunday I did 4 dives (one was a recovery dive for somebody's lost fin. I won't say who lost a fin mid-dive because I don't want to make RAWalker feel bad about it)

    Depths:40 feet and up- mostly OW check-out dives

    Temps- low 70's for most of it- thermocline around 30'

    Vis- Yikes! 5 and under
     
  17. RAWalker

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    Thanks Kris I appreciate that!
    Just not as much as I appreciate you and Ryan recovering it.
    Thanks for the work with Nancy also.
    She is glad the checkout is over and is looking forward to becoming more an underwater tourist and less a student.
    I did warn her it is always a learning experience.
    She opened up her own digital log on the laptop last nite and downloaded the days logs into it.
    She made notes on weighting and checked out her graphic dive profile, SAC rates and decent/accent speeds.
    She seemed to like going over what she had done and experience with the aid of the log.
     
  18. jaxsun14

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    Hey guys! and RAWalker thanks for the thanks! Had a fun time diving this weekend and Congrats to Linda and Nancy on there new certs!

    About Lake conditions...Has anyone gone lately during the weekdays??
    Seems that vis would be better without the boat traffic. Any current info?

    Ryan
     
  19. ScubaSteve2000

    ScubaSteve2000 Manta Ray

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    A group of us dove just west of Beismeyer Point yesterday. Thanks to Bill, Beth (shore support) Josh and Ryan for a fun day of diving.

    We dove off the point that is west of Beismeyer Point. There wasn't a lot of boat traffic early in the morning so vis was about 15-20 feet for the first 20-25 feet of depth. It pretty much remained that way all day.

    We headed west on our first dive toward DT. I buddied up with Ryan and Josh and Bill paired up. We've found that two buddy teams are easier to keep track of than one group of four divers. First thermocline was at about 30 feet where the temp probably dropped about 5º and vis dropped to about 10'. Another thermocline at about 45'. Temp dropped another 5º or so and out came the dive lights. All the better to see your buddy with. At 70 feet we swam into an area where vis went to zero and I had to grab Ryan's arm to keep track of him. Temp at that depth was 61º. That was the deepest dive of the day. After that we decided to keep it to about 30 feet where the vis and temps were a bit more favorable.

    On the second dive we swam to an area that Bill found last weekend. It's a rocky area just east of the road. Bill navigated right to it and we were able to stay for a little while before we hit our turn pressure. We saw a bunch of juvvie bass about the size of your hand and some pretty good sized mommas and pappas as well as a big ol' speckled catfish with pleanty of attitude. Before the dive I had changed to my 3mm because I'm dang tired of wrestling my way into and out of my 7mm. I hoped that if we kept it to 40 feet or less I would be able to take the cold. Only just but I did it. I'm strongly thinking about adios-ing the 7mm for a few months. It was nice to only have 10# in my weight pouches. I still felt overweighted though. The vis on the second dive was probably 15'+. Temp at 40 feet was a balmy 65º.

    Dive three. We returned to the rocky area and found that it continued north for quite a while. It's about 50 to 100 feet east of the road. Lots of huge bolders and lots of fish to see. Bill found the remnants of an umbrella on our way to the rocks and we ran across the usual odds and ends of people's leavings. We didn't have any bags with us so we had to leave it where we found it. We may need to plan another clean-up dive day. I couldn't get over the schools of dozens of small fry about the size of your finger. I even followed (herded?) about 10 bluegill the size of my fist along a large boulder until they decided to dart into a crevice. Obviously most of these critters will be eaten by other lake dwellers or the place would be teaming with fish each year. On this dive the vis ranged from 5' to 20' depending on our depth. Near the thermocline we could see the different "layers" of water coming together. The boundry between the relatively warmer and cooler water looked like whisps of smoke. I swam through one to see if I could feel a difference and I could. The "smokey" areas were cooler. I have only been diving Lake Pleasant on a regular basis since January so the whole thing about seasonal changes and changes in the ecology throughout the year is facinating to me. The temp at 49 feet was only 63 degrees and I was shivering in my 3mm. I was happy to turn back and head for shallower warmer waters.

    Between our first and second dives, Granny and RMsimmons dropped in. We were just going in when they arrived and they were just going in when we came out so we never got to dive with them. We did take a minute to say hi and talk a bit. I hope we get to dive together one of these times.

    Josh and Bill had three tanks each but Ryan and I had four so we stayed around for another dive after the others left. First we headed south into the cove but the vis started to really suck. Ryan was looking for another fish to add to the three he had speared for dinner. After about 10 minutes of seeing nary a fin we turned around and retraced our route back to where we started. We surfaced and after talking it over decided to descend there and make our way back to the rocky area where we had seen all the fish. Shortly after we started the dive, Ryan got his fourth fish of the day. On this dive we decided to keep the depth to 20 to 25'. The vis was good all day at that depth and the temp hovered at around 70º. Thanks again to Bill, Beth, Josh and Ryan for making it a great day for diving.
     
  20. AZ_Zoner

    AZ_Zoner Scuba Instructor

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    Where is Beismeyer Point? I don't ever remember hearing about this site before.

    thanks

    Craig
     

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