Sleep or lack there of

Discussion in 'Non-Diving Related Stuff' started by cobaltbabe, Sep 15, 2004.

  1. cobaltbabe

    cobaltbabe Diva of the Deep

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    Does anyone know of something other then drugs or warm milk that will help someone to sleep. It has been 3 days now that I have gone with less then 4-5 hours sleep and it is finally taking it's toll on me. I can't stand milk and I don't do drugs. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance folks.
     
  2. underwater daphne

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    hmm, you gotta try different things out but things that help me:

    - lavender drops. there are special drops you can put on your pillow to help you sleep. got some from england in boots once. otherwise lavender is known to calm ppl.
    - drink sleep teas. in switzerland we have all sorts of herbal and sleepy teas.
    - homöopathie. there are some pretty good round beads that you can swallow.
    - i like valium for flights, but no drugs so ok.
    - melatonin. not really a drug as your body produces melatonin on it's own and i haven't noticed any side effects.
    - beer, wein
    - meditation. maybe you just can't shut down. try to forget what bothers you through the day and let go.
    - a warm bath just before bed.
    - reading the phone book.

    good luck. i know what it's like and i hate warm milk.
     
  3. Doc Intrepid

    Doc Intrepid Scuba Instructor

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    Marie,

    Sure fire cure.

    1. Take a long hot bath.
    2. At least 3 leisurely glasses of red wine.
    3. Read anything by Nathaniel Hawthorne or Dostoyevsky.

    Works every time :)
     
  4. cobaltbabe

    cobaltbabe Diva of the Deep

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    I have been reading every night but it produces some very very horrible dreams that wake me up in worse condition then before I went to sleep. I am thinking about stopping on the way home to get some wine but I end up with a head ache even on two glasses on week days.

    I like the hot bath and might add some candles and some classical music. Problem is I have 2 hours to get all my chores done when I get home and only that amount of time to spend with my children so do I spend me time or do I spend time with them? God I hate being a single mother. Sorry for unloading folks. It must be the lack of sleep.
     
  5. ChicagoMermaid

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    Have you considered trying yoga? I was in a near-fatal car accident a few years ago and couldn't sleep without pain meds and sleeping pills. I decided to give yoga a shot and was able to sleep through the night without chemical help. 4 years later it's still working!
     
  6. Northeastwrecks

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    I travel frequently. Changing time zones and staying in hotels can cause insomnia. I've developed the following routine, which seems to help.

    1. A short (20 - 30 minutes) and moderate workout, such as swimming or briskly walking;
    2. a very hot bath or whirlpool; and
    3. a couple of melatonin tablets.

    With regard to reading, I'd switch books if the one you are reading is giving you nightmares.

    When you go to sleep, try to minimize outside stimulation. No TV, movies, lights, etc. I also find that a white noise generator (in my case an air conditioner or a humidifer, depending on the season) works well.

    I gave up caffeine back in January. I found that this helped immensely. I'm not groggy in the morning, I get to sleep faster and I sleep better.

    Finally, if you can't resolve this on your own, check with your doc. There could be some other issue.

    Good luck.
     
  7. cobaltbabe

    cobaltbabe Diva of the Deep

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    I would love to try that but I don't have the time. I am up at 6:30am to get the kids off to school and don't get home till 8:15pm. Long days. I think I need to win the lottery. Anyone know the winning numbers?
     
  8. cobaltbabe

    cobaltbabe Diva of the Deep

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    Have you been talking to my husband? Lord almighty. LOL
     
  9. Northeastwrecks

    Northeastwrecks Divemaster

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    Once you get into an insomnia cycle, it can be difficult to break. It seems to me that the larger my sleep deficit, the harder it is to get to sleep at an appropriate moment (sleeping in my office during the day is easy, but nonproductive).

    With regard to chores, can you skip 'em for one night? Order take out and relax. The laundry will still be there in the morning.

    With regard to the kids, is there any way that the kids could spend one night somewhere else, i.e., a sleepover or a night with the grandparents?

    The idea is to minimize stress and outside stimuli for one evening so that you can get your sleep habits back on track. Once you're there, it'll probably be easier to stay there.
     
  10. Northeastwrecks

    Northeastwrecks Divemaster

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    I just meant that there could be something interfering with your sleep pattern. Seriously, nothing else was intended or implied.
     
  11. cobaltbabe

    cobaltbabe Diva of the Deep

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    It all sounds so easy. I am going to be totally honest here folks. My house is a mess. It drives me nuts and then some.

    My family all live along way away and I don't really have anyone in the town that I live in that the kids can go to. Just the way it is. I chose it.

    I am thinking a great big cartoon mallet to the head!!! LOL
     
  12. Quarrior

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    Hmm, no milk, no drugs. Guess that leaves WHISKEY :D
     
  13. cobaltbabe

    cobaltbabe Diva of the Deep

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    I am headed to the wine store after work.
     
  14. underwater daphne

    underwater daphne Barracuda

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    alcohol is excellent, but if it works, try not to make it a habit. good to get some sleep now, but do look for alternatives or you might have a different problem soon.
    :)
     
  15. Doc Intrepid

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    (I raised a few kids myself, Marie, so take it for what its worth...) No idea how old yours are, and I think NEW is on to something, but you might try something other than wine while the kids are still up! There are some excellent books you might try reading aloud to the kids before their bedtime, like the Redwall series (Brian Jacques?), etc. About an hour each night and I was certainly falling asleep, didn't always have the same effect on the kids (!), but it was quiet time we all enjoyed and it calmed me down. FWIW... Hang in there. One day they will be gone, the house will be clean, and god...it will be very very quiet. And empty.
     
  16. RavenC

    RavenC Deep South DIR

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    Cobalt, there have been lots of great ideas mentioned to try...

    Let the chores go for tonight.... Order take out, after dinner take a bike ride with the boys; after you get them to bed do the glass of wine and hot bath soak with some easy music. Try a watching a chick flick movie from bed or on the couch with the remote in your hand so when you begin to doze off you can just turn off the tv and not have to get up.

    I wish I were there, I would give you a massage too. I think that might help with the stress.

    R
     
  17. cobaltbabe

    cobaltbabe Diva of the Deep

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    Thanks everyone. I know I am tired because I am literally tearing up. My boys are 15 and 11 and they are very supportive. We cuddle when we can (don't tell anyone since they are too old to cuddle). Matt and I are diving this weekend so that will relax me.
     
  18. Walter

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    First, don't go to bed until you're ready to sleep. That way, getting in bed will be a signal it's time to sleep.

    Alcohol is a drug.

    You might try the ingredient in milk that helps you sleep - calcium. You need calcium anyway, take it at bed time.

    Don't consume any caffeine -- ever. Caffeine is in coffee, tea, cola, Barq's root beer, Mountain Dew and chocolate.

    When you go to bed, relax, take a few deep breaths, close your eyes and slowly count backward from 5. Say each number 3 times. As you say the number, picture the numeral in your mind. After you've reached 1, take a few more deep breaths. Think of the most relaxing location you can imagine, picture yourself there. This should help you get ready to sleep. Now it's time to put yourself out, this is the part I hate, but it's extremely effective.

    With your eyes closed, elevate them 20° and visualize. Picture yourself standing beside a chalk board. Pick up the chalk and draw a large 99 on the board. Now, draw a circle around it. Put down the chalk and pick up the eraser. Erase the 99, being careful not to erase any part of the circle. Pick the chalk up and draw a 98 inside the circle. Continue this pattern until you fall asleep from boredom. If you, by some strange turn of events reach 0, start over. Most don't make it to the 80's.

    Sleep well.
     
  19. Kim

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    If you don't count herbal stuff as drugs you might try valerian. Other than that peppermint tea also works.
     
  20. cobaltbabe

    cobaltbabe Diva of the Deep

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    Very interesting Walter. I will try that. I already drink Peppermint tea for my stomach and I usually drink apple tea at night.
     

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