**Split Fins – Let the Bashing Begin!**

Discussion in 'Fins, Masks and Snorkels' started by Teamcasa, Mar 17, 2008.

  1. Teamcasa

    Teamcasa Sr. Moderator Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    In an effort to provide a thread where split fins can be bashed while still staying on-topic I have started this thread.

    Split Fins:
    • Loved by those who use them and despised by those who don’t.
    • Claimed to be faster and easier to use by those who actually use them and won’t work in current by those who don’t.
    • Voted the divers choice in several Scuba Magazine tests by those charged with testing them and those same tests are discredited by those who don’t use them.
    • Can only perform well in one style of kicking as told by those who don’t use them.
    • You are prevented from hovering or diving upside down when using splits.
    • They are not DIR compliant and no self respecting cave diver would be caught dead wearing them.
    • One of my favorite quotes: They allow people who don't have proper kicking technique to move by moving their feet, but without kicking.
    • With cause a silt out and makes a diver to rototill the bottom, where paddles prevent siltouts and prevent divers from doing any bottom gardening.
    • Will inevitably generate comparisons to propellers, marine life, birds and paddle wheeled boats.
    • We generate posts where engineering pedigrees are trotted out.
    • The US Navy does not use them so they must be un-American.
    • Will sgnerate personal bashing and squabbles in any thread that mentions them.
    • Split fins still out sell all other fins types.
    Did I miss anything?

     
  2. DeepSeaExplorer

    DeepSeaExplorer Active Member

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    Nope... you pretty much covered it.

    BTW, the reason they're the best selling fin is because dive shops push them because they have a better profit margin. If you markup is based on a percentage, the more something costs, the more you profit. For example: If your mark up is 50%, a $50 fin will generate $25 in profit while a $150 fin makes $75. The dive shop couldn't care less if they work better or not. In fact, the constant debate allows them to continue to claim that SOME divers prefer them.
     
  3. Scoobahdood

    Scoobahdood Single Diver

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    I've bashed my split fins with all kinds of gear and I still love them! :D
     
  4. cool_hardware52

    cool_hardware52 Equipment Manufacturer

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    Numbers sold, or percentage sold, is a weak argument in favor of, or in criticism of, any product.

    Tobin
     
  5. Teamcasa

    Teamcasa Sr. Moderator Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    I agree with you, just look back to VHS vs Beta.
     
  6. mfalco

    mfalco New Member

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    "With cause a silt out and makes a diver to rototill the bottom, where paddles prevent siltouts and prevent divers from doing any bottom gardening."

    Actually I can swim right above a silty bottom without causing a siltout. Bio fins were designed to prevent siltouts. The problem is you have to use the properly. If they are pointed down, or used with big kicks you will cause a siltout.
     
  7. SparticleBrane

    SparticleBrane Surface Interval Member

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    So you like my statement, hm?

    It's true...
    Honestly, how many divers do you see who have proper kicking technique -- flutter, frog, or otherwise? Most just move their feet in the hopes of forward propulsion...
     
  8. El Orans

    El Orans ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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  9. mfalco

    mfalco New Member

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    The Bio Fin (the origininal split) was designed to basically just use your feet, and don't work as well with a standard flutter kisk.
    Apollo Sports: Dive Gear: Split Fins: Overview


    I think half the issues non split uses have with spit fins is that they are trying to use them improperly.
     
  10. Flightlead

    Flightlead New Member

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    And I'm going off topic 'cos its funny...has anyone read the "article" in Scuba Diving magazine (which I dislike, it being blatant advertising from almost from one end to the other) on the Aqua Lung Slingshot fins?

    And I quote "The power bands lock into a choice of three power positions, from super stiff to super flexible, enabling you to adjust your speed-to-effort ratio at will."

    Why would you ever want to lower your speed to effort ratio?

    Gee, I'm not working hard enough!

    :rofl3:
     
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  11. mkutyna

    mkutyna Divemaster

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    Mr. Bean uses split fins? I didn't know he was a diver.
     
  12. Al Mialkovsky

    Al Mialkovsky Scuba Instructor

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    Once in awhile I'll trade off my splits for a paddle fin and I always hate the paddles. Oh and amazingly I never silt up the bottom with my spilts, have trouble in currents or anything else. And back finning, well I'm capable of taking a single finger and pushing backwards if needed :)
     
  13. Scoobahdood

    Scoobahdood Single Diver

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    :rofl3::rofl3: I was thinking the same thing!! :rofl3:
     
  14. RiverRat

    RiverRat Scuba Instructor

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    Split fins are an entanglement hazard....you can get a line caught in between them :)
    Plus they're just lame, most of the hardcore divers use stiff fins like jets.
     
  15. diver 85

    diver 85 Well-Known Member

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    yea, some come in prettier colors other than black......:)
     
  16. fl-diver

    fl-diver New Member

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  17. mkutyna

    mkutyna Divemaster

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    Divers are allowed to wear a color other than black?
     
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  18. Coalcracker

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    Most of the smarter divers have already adopted the new technology. Stiffer is only good for certain non diving apps. Less resistance and more performance seems to make way more sense. I can do all styles of kicks with by bio XT model. No problems at all. I still have my 30 year old Jets and some Mares power plana fins and several other model paddle fins. The old style paddle fins now feel like bricks or boards on my feet.
     
  19. deepblueme

    deepblueme Scuba Instructor

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    If you use them you can justify how good they are cuz you use them and don't want to look bad cuz you do.
    If you don't well you bash them cuz they are not as good as what you use...

    If your not using the old Idea 3 fins you are a fool.
     
  20. TSandM

    TSandM Missed and loved by many.

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    Silting is primarily a function of diving technique -- a combination of trim and kick, and where you are with respect to the bottom. I do not believe it is possible to do a full-leg flutter kick and not send water downward; the physics just require it. If you dive far enough off the bottom, in a horizontal position, and the kick is not too big, you won't do a lot of silting. But I think you can do a frog kick and not disturb the bottom at all, where a flutter kick giving equivalent propulsion will.

    Frog kicking is really more comfortable and more efficient in a stiff fin. Even very flexible blade fins don't work very well.

    Flutter kicking in stiff blade fins, for me, is extremely uncomfortable. But since it's the kick I use least, that's not an issue.

    BTW, I have owned and used both, as a novice diver and now, a bit further on. I much prefer the blades. All the kicks I know, I can do in both, but they are easier and more efficient in blade fins, except for the flutter kick.
     

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