Two New Roman Shipwrecks Found

[SnorkelLA]

Two Roman-era shipwrecks have been found in deep water off a western Greek island, challenging the conventional theory that ancient shipmasters stuck to coastal routes rather than risking the open sea, an official said Tuesday. Greece's culture ministry said the two third-century wrecks were discovered earlier this month during a survey of an area where a Greek-Italian gas pipeline is to be sunk. They lay between 1.2 and 1.4 kilometers (0.7-0.9 miles) deep in the sea between Corfu and Italy.
That would place them among the deepest known ancient wrecks in the Mediterranean, apart from remains found in 1999 of an older vessel some 3 kilometers (1.8 miles) deep off Cyprus.
Angeliki Simossi, head of Greece's underwater antiquities department, said sunken ancient ships are generally found 30-40 meters (100-130 feet) deep.
Most scholars believe that ancient traders were unwilling to veer far offshore, unlike warships that were unburdened by ballast and cargo.
"There are many Roman shipwrecks, but these are in deep waters. They were not sailing close to the coast," Simossi said. "The conventional theory was that, as these were small vessels up to 25 meters (80 feet) long, they did not have the capacity to navigate far from the coast, so that if there was a wreck they would be close enough to the coast to save the crew."
Archaeologist Brendan Foley, who was not involved in the project, said a series of ancient wrecks located far from land over the past 15 years has forced experts to reconsider the coast-hugging theory. "The Ministry of Culture's latest discoveries are crucial hard data showing the actual patterns of ancient seafaring and commerce," said Foley, a deep-water archaeology expert at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts.

Jeffrey Royal, director of Florida-based RPM Nautical Foundation, said that in many cases — as when winds threatened to push ships onto rocks — ancient mariners made a conscious effort to avoid coastal waters.
Royal, whose foundation has carried out a series of Mediterranean underwater projects, said the depth of such finds is immaterial from an archaeological standpoint.
"In antiquity, ships didn't sail around with depth finders and keep track of how deep they were," he said. "It was more how far they were on the surface in relation to land. After 30 meters of depth the boat's safe, so if it's 30 meters (100 feet) or 3,000 meters it's a little irrelevant."
The remains were located during an investigation that covered 200 square kilometers (77 square miles) of seabed off the islands of Corfu and Paxoi.

• A Greek oceanographic vessel using side-scan radar and robot submarines took footage of scattered cargo — storage jars, or amphorae, used to carry foodstuffs and wine — cooking utensils for the crew, anchors, ballast stones and what could be remains of the wooden ships.

The team also raised samples of pottery and a marble vase.
The one ship was carrying the kind of amphorae produced in north Africa, and Simossi said it might have sailed from there and headed for Greece after a stop in Italy.
Foley said deep wrecks are very important because they are almost always more intact than those found in shallow water. "They contain far more archaeological and historical information than other sites," he said in an email. "As a result, the deep sea floor of the Mediterranean is the world's greatest repository for information about the earliest civilizations."
The discovery comes amid Greece's acute financial crisis, which has also taken a toll on funding for archaeology.
Simossi said her department, which monitors a vast area rich in ancient wrecks and sunken settlements, had its staff reduced by half because of non-renewed contracts and retirees who were not replaced.
"There were 89 of us, and there are 45 left," she said. "We are fighting tooth and claw to keep afloat."

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[Guba]

Fascinating discovery. A little closer to (my) home (and yours, Snorkel), here's another. NOAA, BOEM: Historic, 19th century shipwreck discovered in northern Gulf of Mexico I watched this one live during the streaming feed from the Okeanos Explorer as the crews surveyed the bottom using the Little Hercules ROV. To me, the video is the most interesting part, which can be found here: http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/okean...pdates/media/movies/highlights0426_video.html

Quite spectacular.

 

[SnorkelLA]

I do seem to remember hearing about a new wreck in the Gulf but never got around to researching it. I've dove the Whiskey Wreck in Gulf Shores(not worth it) and the Oriskany (VERY worth it). There really is something about diving in the Gulf that is a complete crap-shoot but the wrecks can be top-notch

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Oh, and I never really knew about what we think the Gulf is until not too long ago when I was talking to a friend who said it is believed it is the impact crator of the original asteroid that extincted the dinosuars.

 

[BenjaminF]

The wreck off Mexico is fascinating, but it seems so dead down there. A few crabs, those rest things that look like pink, left over extras from "Little shop of horrors" and that's about it.

 

[Guba]

Well....kinda (impact crater idea). It's true that PART of the Gulf was involved in what is believed to be the "smoking gun" meteorite strike at the end of the Cretaceous time period, but that impact is located near Chixulub, Mexico. That's on the northwestern point of the Yucatan Peninsula, just west of Cancun. About one-half of the crater is onshore and the rest is in the Gulf of Mexico, though it is completely silted in. The only way to even know it's there is through magnetometer maps, but those distinctly show a set of concentric blast rings, indicating an impact crater about 110 miles across. The Gulf of Mexico, by contrast, is about 1500 miles long (east to west) and 900 miles wide (north to south).

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The wreck off Mexico is fascinating, but it seems so dead down there. A few crabs, those rest things that look like pink, left over extras from "Little shop of horrors" and that's about it.

Yes, Benjamin, the benthic life of that part of the Gulf is pretty spartan compared to the reefs and other systems we scuba divers visit, but remember that particular shipwreck lies at over 1300 meters (roughly 4300 feet) down. While the amount of bottom life may be relatively small, it makes a great place to store archaeological artifacts in a "time capsule". Those flintlock muskets, for example, do a pretty good job of dating the shipwreck as being around 200 years old. For me, that's more than enough to make it interesting. So cool!