Which specialties are worth the money?

Discussion in 'Basic Scuba Discussions' started by Rhone Man, Oct 9, 2008.

Which specialties are worth the money (multiple selections allowed)?

  1. Enriched Air / Nitrox

    98 vote(s)
    89.9%
  2. Wreck

    49 vote(s)
    45.0%
  3. Deep

    52 vote(s)
    47.7%
  4. Cavern

    34 vote(s)
    31.2%
  5. Ice

    23 vote(s)
    21.1%
  6. U/W Photographer

    12 vote(s)
    11.0%
  7. U/W Navigator

    36 vote(s)
    33.0%
  8. DPV

    6 vote(s)
    5.5%
  9. Night

    37 vote(s)
    33.9%
  10. Equipment specialist

    29 vote(s)
    26.6%
  11. Shark diver (SSI only)

    3 vote(s)
    2.8%
  12. Solo diver (SDI only)

    22 vote(s)
    20.2%
  1. Rhone Man

    Rhone Man Divemaster

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    Quick poll, just for fun, which specialty course are actually worth the money (in your opinion). Multiple selections allowed.

    Not counting Rescue Diver/Stress & Rescue as a speciality course for these purposes.

    The following dropped off because I didn't have room:
    - Peak performance bouyancy / advanced bouyancy
    - Multilevel / computer diver
    - Waves, tides & currents (SSI only)
    - Boat diver

    Yes, we know it is all about the instructor, etc., etc., it is only a bit of fun - not an SAT test.
     
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2008
  2. Blackwood

    Blackwood SoCal DIR

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    Some are regional. Wreck won't help someone who isn't near wrecks. Same can be said for Cavern and Ice. That said, there is value in the mindset that should go along with overhead courses.

    Other than that, most of those hardly require coursework (nitrox, solo, and -depending on how it's taught - deep not withstanding), and thus I don't see the courses as being worth paying for, at least at their basic levels. Some instructors offer fairly extensive courses that go beyond what I'd call "specialties" though the share the same names, and they may be well worth it.
     
  3. OldNSalty

    OldNSalty Loggerhead Turtle

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    What is DPV? and what exactly is an equipment specialist? Also, I assume you mean which ones we think are worth it even if we don't actually have interest in doing the particular activity? i.e. I don't live in a place where ice diving is an option but if I did, yea, I would probably take a course.
     
  4. Blackwood

    Blackwood SoCal DIR

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    ^^ Diver Propulsion Vehicle, aka 'scooter'

    I think an equipment specialist is someone who is taught a little bit about the workings of various pieces of equipment, but not to the level that they would be considered technicians. I don't get it.
     
  5. Tomeck

    Tomeck Divemaster

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    I think nitrox is only an very useful course.

    I know very well ice, deep, wreck and deep, but I don't have these certifications.
     
  6. Rhone Man

    Rhone Man Divemaster

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    Bugger - I should have included "Drysuit" in there.

    That's the trouble with diving in the Caribbean all the time - you forget these things (although Blackwood's point on "location" is well taken in this case!).
     
  7. Randy43068

    Randy43068 Orca

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    I didn't see: "None of the above" listed. :D
     
  8. JeffG

    JeffG Giant Squid

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    Wreck
    Ice
    U/W Photographer
    U/W Navigator
    DPV
    Night
    Equipment specialist
    Shark diver (SSI only)
    Solo diver (SDI only)


    Done all of the above without any certification.

    Now some of them (Wreck and Ice in particular) I did have a mentor, I just do not have a piece of plastic to show for it.
     
  9. OldNSalty

    OldNSalty Loggerhead Turtle

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    Thanks Blackwood-and so now I know they are not useful :)

    I said Nitrox but only because it is required to show the card in some places in order to get the gas. I suspect that any of them could be self taught really but Tomeck made a practical point of the 'regional factor'-to him diving in ice is probably nothing, to me, the only time I see ice in my water is when I am at a bar so I might be willing to pay for the knowledge before jumping in.
     
  10. JeffG

    JeffG Giant Squid

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    Ice diving (IMO) is the most dangerous "recreational" scuba diving out there.

    Anyone who would just "jump in" is an idiot.
     
  11. Randy43068

    Randy43068 Orca

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    will you take the shark diver class with me? I'll need someone to cut so I can swim away. :D
     
  12. JeffG

    JeffG Giant Squid

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    I would be honored.
     
  13. mike_s

    mike_s Blue Whale

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    this is a "loaded question".


    Why? because any course you take could be "really good" or "really suck" depending on the shop and instructor you take it from.
     
  14. Kevua

    Kevua Angel Fish

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    Just to make a correction to your poll, SSI I believe has a solo diver cert also. But as far as your poll, I think it would be the ones you are interested in. If you are interested in caves then that one would be worth the money, wrecks so on. As for the ones that I think are the most important, you don't have one of them on the list which is stress/rescue.
     
  15. Rhone Man

    Rhone Man Divemaster

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    Has anyone on the thread done a solo diver course? I thought about doing one only because they say if you dive with young kids you should regard yourself as solo diving as no one is able to assist you. But on the other hand, what do they teach you other than dive within your limits and carry lots of redundancy?
     
  16. Blackwood

    Blackwood SoCal DIR

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    I haven't taken one, but I'd talked to an instructor about his solo program (note, this is one fairly meticulous instructor who generally only teaches tech-oriented courses, so take it with a grain of salt).

    Equipment-wise it's very much about full redundancy (doubles or stages, etc.). Other than that, he stresses dive planning (particularly from a gas standpoint) and overall awareness. Like many cave courses, during debrief he'll ask questions like "how deep were you at minute 35 of the runtime, and how much gas had you consumed?"
     
  17. Tomeck

    Tomeck Divemaster

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    I am not convinced that ice diving is the most dangerous recreational scuba. Every year, we go to the Alpes for ice diving. I think the wreck penetration is more dangerous, because the wrecks are not stable.
     
  18. JeffG

    JeffG Giant Squid

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    Then we will have to agree to disagree.

    Ice diving has all the overhead issues of caves/wrecks, plus has all the equipment issues dealing with extremely cold water.

    Not a good mix.

    Almost killed me.
    Almost got my brother killed.
    A dive partner in Ontario died ice diving.

    YMMV
     
  19. Pearldiver07

    Pearldiver07 Scuba Instructor

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    Does it count as "ice diving" when it only involves good scotch with ice cubes in a glass?:D

    Cause that's as close to "ice diving" as I expect I'll ever get.
     
  20. JeffG

    JeffG Giant Squid

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    Sorry no.

    LOL..but it is different. A lot of people take the PADI "Dope on a Rope" Ice diving class. They do it once and then never ice dive again, but they do get a new unique dive experience.
     

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