Be a fan of ScubaBoard.com

Welcome to ScubaBoard, an online scuba diving forum community where you can join over 185,000 divers from around the world discussing all things related to Scuba Diving. To gain full access to ScubaBoard (and make this large box go away) you must register for a free account. As a registered member you will be able to:

  • Participate in over 500 dive topic forums and browse from over 5,500,000 posts.
  • Communicate privately with other divers from around the world.
  • Post your own photos or view from well over 100,000 user submitted images.
  • Gain access to our free classifieds marketplace to buy, sell and trade gear, travel and services.
  • Use the calendar to organize your events and enroll in other members' events.
All this and much more is available to you absolutely free when you register for an account, so sign up today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact the ScubaBoard Support Team.
Page 1 of 8 123456 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 77

Thread: Nitrogen Narcosis

 

  1. #1
    Frequent Poster


    Has not set a "status"
     

    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    South Africa
    Posts
    383
    Dives
    25 - 49
    Photos
    20

    Question Nitrogen Narcosis

    Hello fellow bubble blowers. .

    When i did my AOW course, my instructor asked me and my dive buddy
    when does narcisis start. . I gave him my answer and he said i was his
    second student in over 10 years who got the qeustion right. .

    So my qeustion to you are when does narcosis start? ? :think:

    Happy and safe diving Karel. .

  2. #2
    Solo Diver


    Has not set a "status"
     

    captain's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Laplace, LA
    Posts
    3,912
    Dives
    1,000+
    When does being drunk begin, when you drink the first drink. Narcosis begins when you take your first breath underwater, but just like being drunk when you begin to recognize its effects varies.
    Nothing is foolproof to a truly talented fool

    Law of Illogical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.

    Getting old is not for wusses

    NAVED master diver #105

  3. #3
    ScubaBoard Enthusiast


    Aquanaut Extraordinaire
     

    AfterDark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Rhode Island,USA
    Posts
    3,487
    Dives
    1,000 - 2,499
    Photos
    38
    Quote Originally Posted by captain View Post
    When does being drunk begin, when you drink the first drink. Narcosis begins when you take your first breath underwater, but just like being drunk when you begin to recognize its effects varies.
    Like he said. The accepted depth where most divers start feel it and begin to have trouble is >100fsw

  4. #4
    ScubaBoard Enthusiast


    Doing the "Tebow"
     

    BDSC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Wake Forest, NC
    Posts
    2,311
    Dives
    I just don't log dives
    The captain got it right.

  5. #5
     


    SEI/CMAS Instructor Trainer
     

    Walter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2000
    Location
    Lehigh Acres, Florida
    Posts
    18,624
    Photos
    24
    He usually does.
    The Devil's in the details.

    Disclaimer: All discussion of value, by me or anyone else, is opinion.

    For a comprehensive approach to diving education, check out Scuba Educators International (SEI) Diving.

  6. #6
    ScubaBoard Enthusiast


    wonders whether Schrödinger
    liked having pets
     

    Bubbletrubble's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Seussville
    Posts
    4,610
    Dives
    200 - 499
    Photos
    31
    The smart-a$$ answer to your question is...no one really knows.

    Being able to answer the question accurately presumes that we have a reliable, reproducible method for measuring narcosis in the first place. A separate but related issue is that we don't even know the precise mechanism responsible for the phenomenon. We know that it's correlated with the increased solubility of inert gas in body tissues at an elevated ambient pressure. We think it might have something to do with inert gas dissolving into neuronal membranes and interfering with electrical signaling from neuron-to-neuron.

    I'd say that captain's answer is probably the most conservative answer one could give. It was likely the answer that your instructor was looking for. Hopefully, your instructor went on to discuss the common symptoms of narcosis and the "usual" depths at which it becomes noticeable. It can be observed in some individuals at relatively shallow depths, but it almost always becomes more conspicuous at depths in the range of 100 fsw.
    Ear Equalization problems? Check out Dr. Kay's Ear Lecture for Divers.

    What would you do? ScubaBoard has a "What if...?" series geared for beginner divers.

  7. #7
    Scuba Instructor


    Has not set a "status"
     

    DCBC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts
    3,150
    Dives
    5,000 - ∞
    The narcotic effects of nitrogen begin at pressures exceeding atmospheric pressure. In other words, immediately upon descent.

  8. #8
    ScubaBoard Enthusiast


    all i want to do is dive all
    over the world. anything else
    is just well, grayed out
     

    scubamountaingirl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Upstate New York
    Posts
    1,900
    Dives
    100 - 199
    that is one reason we all feel so good when we dive

    i say this tonuge in cheek. I know its a serious problem when out of control.

    ww

  9. #9
    ScubaBoard Enthusiast


    wonders whether Schrödinger
    liked having pets
     

    Bubbletrubble's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Seussville
    Posts
    4,610
    Dives
    200 - 499
    Photos
    31
    Quote Originally Posted by DCBC View Post
    The narcotic effects of nitrogen begin at pressures exceeding atmospheric pressure. In other words, immediately upon descent.
    @DCBC: Are you sure about this? (This should stimulate some discussion. )
    Ear Equalization problems? Check out Dr. Kay's Ear Lecture for Divers.

    What would you do? ScubaBoard has a "What if...?" series geared for beginner divers.

  10. #10
    DIR Practitioner


    Has not set a "status"
     

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Finland
    Posts
    95
    Dives
    500 - 999
    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbletrubble View Post
    @DCBC: Are you sure about this? (This should stimulate some discussion. )
    Change in strategy of solving psychological tests:... [Undersea Hyperb Med. 2003] - PubMed result

    AFAIK there are multiple studies supporting this along with common sense.

    HTH. Narcosis doesn't just appear out of nowhere @4atm, it starts shallow and just gets worse at depth...

    //LN

Page 1 of 8 123456 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  






Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0