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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Derail View Post
    Since you're using a dry suit, you could do it on the surface, fully inflated, rolled on your back. I looked at the She-p.com website, it comes with a hose.

    The next step is obvious for guys...make a fountain. There's something no guy would do with onlookers.
    Yes, I have the hose that connects the She-P to the P-valve hose in the drysuit.

    I did disconnect it from the drysuit this weekend when I peed off the docks. I looked like the little Belgium boy fountain peeing off the dock as my dive buddies cheered me on. I did the same the next day on the boat's swim platform while a freighter passed our dive boat.
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    here's what i had to do, sam. i had to totally stop (larry and i have a 'peeing' hand signal so he wouldn't think something was wrong). i had to not have to think about buoyancy (worked best to wedge my head against something). i had to draw my hips and knees up a bit, like 30-45deg angle. i sometimes had to put a hand on the reservoir, usually toward the back. i had to breathe, stop, pause, relax, stay like that, breathe some more...and it would finally flow.

    now, i admit i'm a totally shameless wetsuit pee-er as well as ocean, river, pool, bathtub, etc, so i had a starting advantage over you, but still i had this hangup originally. i need less now - can sometimes even go while swimming, but not often. how are you peeing in the ocean or river in a bathing suit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DandyDon View Post
    Unless a diver opens his/her wet suit to catch water on the ladder and flush thru, much of it goes on the deck
    I was on a boat where a young man came back on board leaving a trail of yellow behind him on the deck and the captain told him to get the %#*= off his boat until he flushed the wetsuit.

    So now I grab the neck seal and flush away.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BabyDuck View Post
    i need less now - can sometimes even go while swimming, but not often. how are you peeing in the ocean or river in a bathing suit?
    Hi, Marci,

    I was never able to pee in the ocean, lake or river prior to becoming a certified diver. Now that has all changed because of diving. I have no problems peeing in a bathing suit while in the ocean, lake or river but for some reason cannot pee in a swimming pool.
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    Oh, I know this one, and the people who are telling you just to get you bladder more full are giving you entirely the wrong advice, because you can end up in a lot of pain that way!

    I've been using the She-P for several years now, and it still isn't easy, and sometimes I can't manage. Marci has some great tips -- here is mine. What I have to do is the exact opposite of what you think you would do. Pushing to force the urine out DOES NOT WORK. What's required is relaxation . . . and for me, it's drawing up the pelvic floor muscles, which feels almost like you're trying to suck the urine back INTO yourself. (If you do yoga or pilates, you are familiar with this -- the Pilates article that originally introduced me to the idea said to imagine you were trying to suck a pea up inside yourself.) Combining this movement with an effort to relax will eventually work -- a small amount of urine will pass, and then it will stop, because I'll lose the relaxation. But doing it several times, eventually a stream will start and continue. You actually don't have to EMPTY your bladder, as it turns out . . . just getting enough urine out to relieve the discomfort is enough.

    I have also found that this gets better with acute practice. Every cave diving trip, I have to master it over again, but by the end of the trip, it's MUCH easier. (Although I have a mental block about peeing when I'm in front of anybody, which made my buddies' trick of putting me #2 on the team really cruel. )

    When you get it down, you will find that frog kicking actually HELPS . . . but I had to start by stopping and holding onto something, just like Marci describes.

    It's amazing how visceral the inhibition against peeing in your clothes is!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSandM View Post
    It's amazing how visceral the inhibition against peeing in your clothes is!
    Thank you, Lynne. I am able to pee in my drysuit while at the surface but peeing underwater still eludes me.

    I will try Marci and your recommendations, along with a few others on this thread.

    Thanks, everyone, I appreciate all the help to get me to pee underwater. Keep all the great suggestions coming cause I NEED HELP!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DMDavid View Post
    I was on a boat where a young man came back on board leaving a trail of yellow behind him on the deck and the captain told him to get the %#*= off his boat until he flushed the wetsuit.
    Sounds like he was still whizzing. If your urine is yellow, you not hydrated well enough.
    Quote Originally Posted by ScubaSam View Post
    Hi, Marci,

    I was never able to pee in the ocean, lake or river prior to becoming a certified diver. Now that has all changed because of diving. I have no problems peeing in a bathing suit while in the ocean, lake or river but for some reason cannot pee in a swimming pool.
    GooooooD! No one is supposed to pee in a pool.
    Quote Originally Posted by DandyDon View Post
    Ok try this: Suit up, walk off of the beach, stand in chest deep water, and stay there until you do pee - however long it takes. Practice practice practice...
    I do think this will help.
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    Sam - of course I completely forgot about this over the weekend (I was too busy laughing at Pam), but there is a technique for "shy bladders" that might work for you. A number of people have said this works when they are in public rest rooms and have difficulty going. When you get into your relaxed position, ready to go, do some long division problems in your head. You don't actually have to solve them for real, but try something like 3 million divided by 173. Just focus your mind on the math problem. Theory is that the "math" part of the brain pulls cycles from the bladder control part of the brain and help let it flow. Something to try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parzdiver View Post
    Sam - of course I completely forgot about this over the weekend (I was too busy laughing at Pam), but there is a technique for "shy bladders" that might work for you. A number of people have said this works when they are in public rest rooms and have difficulty going. When you get into your relaxed position, ready to go, do some long division problems in your head. You don't actually have to solve them for real, but try something like 3 million divided by 173. Just focus your mind on the math problem. Theory is that the "math" part of the brain pulls cycles from the bladder control part of the brain and help let it flow. Something to try.
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