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May 28th, 2002, 06:53 AM
So, where did y'all dive this weekend?
I dove Peacock Thursday and Saturday, and Ginnie Friday and Sunday. Man were those places zoos! Thursday at Peacock, a class from Texas A&M of 29 were there when we pulled in. Then they were at Ginnie on Friday.
Ginnie was an extreme mess on Sunday. If you wanted in the water, you had to either wait 30 minutes for all of the tubers to go down the stairs, push them out of the way, or do what I did and crawl down the bank. Vis was about 6 inches in the spring run. Some butt nugget even stole my mask. However, we had great dives.
On Saturday Peacock was nice and quiet because everyone was at the Workshop. I dove the Peanut line all the way to the end. Man, is that place trashed! At about 1000ft, the floor is nasty all the way back. I could not beleive how many scooter marks were in the floor, and how many handprints there were. It lloked as if people stuck their hands all the way up to their wrists in the silt foor, and that they tried to pull and glide along the silt floor. Horrible! I know Peacock is a sacrificial training cave, and that everyone crashes and burnes once in a while, but damn. The floor to ceiling height is 15 feet, and their are still marks on the floor.

May 28th, 2002, 09:26 AM
I saw that group from Texas A&M, they were at the workshop on Saturday.

I ended up diving Orange Grove on Sunday. I couldn't find a place to park by Peacock, so we decided on Orange Grove.

Too bad we didn't run into each other, maybe next time.

May 28th, 2002, 09:39 AM
That group had vis TRASHED in the cavern areas of Peacock. My first dive was down the Peanut tunnel, and it was about 10ft all the way to the grim reaper. Some folks coming out said that the mainline was trashed half way to Pothole.

Ya know, we were going to dive Orange and Olsen on Sunday, heck we even went to Peacock Sunday morning. When I got there, it was empty, only about 4 cars in the park. However, my back was still hurting too bad, and I did not want to crawl out of Orange or Olsen, or climb that ladder while wearing double 104's. So we headed to Ginnie. We should have just stayed at Peacock, because Ginnie looked like a cross between a Alabama family reunion and a frat party.

May 28th, 2002, 11:16 AM
That's the great thing about cave diving in the winter... not all these people! Wish I lived close enough to dive during the week!!

sigh... time to move!

May 28th, 2002, 01:55 PM
Well dont live Florida wished i did, but i did dive this weekend at a site i havent dove before. Martha's Quarry in Wilson Co. TN. just East of Nashville was real good dive not as good as ya'll have it but at least im diving.

May 28th, 2002, 02:50 PM
Hey James,
You should have been at the convention. Wes Skyles went over the reasons why Peacock should never be called a sacrificial system. I agree that it is trashed all the way back. There are some good shoots down the water source tunnel that are still in good shape. It's easier in sidemount though.

In the future, please don't refer to state parks or recreational areas as sacrificial areas, as this makes it sound like we the cave divers don't care about the holes we are kicking through.
I had referred to it as sacrificial until I found out why I shouldn't as well.

May 28th, 2002, 02:55 PM
Good point Sherpa. When I say sacrificial, I don't mean it as a site where we can just do whatever the hell we please, and carve our name into the rock. I just meant it as a site that we know is going to have a lot more damage then the highly protected sites like upstream cow.

I really wanted to listen to Wes Skiles speak and see his new video . :upset:

May 28th, 2002, 02:58 PM
Which new video? The Iceisland one? I think you can order it from his website www.wesskiles.com. He was selling copies at the show.

May 28th, 2002, 03:06 PM
Yeah, the Ice Island one. Time to order it I guess!!!!!! Thanks for the info Wendy!

May 28th, 2002, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by Divesherpa
There are some good shoots down the water source tunnel that are still in good shape. It's easier in sidemount though.

There are several tunnels in Peacock that aren't trashed yet. The main ones are but as one gains more experience and skill there are some side tunnels that can knock your socks off!! They require the skill to be able to control buoyancy (and be slick) within inches in spots but are well worth it once that skill level has been achieved!


May 31st, 2002, 11:47 PM
Unfortunately, I wasn't able to attend the conference on Sat....but made it up to cave country for some diving Sun through Wed for my Full cave.

Sunday, only one dive, we just did a quick jaunt down the peanut tunnel about 1200'..

Monday we made 3 dives.....first was at a pretty much forgotten hole in the middle of the forest, which is part of the Lafayette Blue system. I was told it is about 3,000-4,000ft upstream of the head spring. We entered a fairly large sink with a small entrance to the system on one edge. The line began just a few feet inside the entrance, and we proceeded about 200' in until we got to a 4 way intersection. We made a right turn(what we thought was upstream, turned out to be a side tunnel) and proceeded in the vicinity of 800-1000' in. The tunnel was pristine - there was even still silt hanging off the line. It was apparent it had not been dove in quite a while, as we were told before entering. The tunnel was fairly large, about 20' wide by 8' high at most points, with some spots as low as 3-4' high and 8' wide. The floor was covered in an extremely thick silt, and would obviously totally blow the vis with just one careless fin kick(of which, unfortunately, there were a couple). We were in two 2 man teams, and I spent a good deal of my time exiting the system on the line in 2-3' vis. I was first in, last out - so the vis was incredible for me on the way in.. :D We only got to do one dive there, so I didn't get to explore upstream or downstream, but I'm told they are extremely large passages. The second dive of the day was at Olsen. We went in upstream, made the jump to the Peanut line, and proceeded to thirds. We were planning on jumping to the Crossover tunnel, but didn't make it that far before we turned. The original plan was to set the jumps at the Peanut restriction and the Crossover tunnel, to later complete the circuit from downstream Olsen to the Crossover to the Peanut line to upstream Olsen. We marked our furthest penetration, and left our jump spool to complete the circuit on Tues. Two members of our 4 new to diving doubles (this was their 3rd dive on doubles), so the air consumption was fairly high initially until they got used to them - which was suprisingly quick. Our 3rd dive was at Peacock III. We went to the main line, took the first jump to the right, then the next jump to the right. I have no idea what any of the passages are called - it was my first time in III.

Tues we started out with a traverse from Olsen to Peacock I via the Peanut tunnel. Not really expecting to make it the entire way, I was quite suprised when we passed the breakdown room well before thirds. We exited Peacock I basically right at thirds. The next dive of the day was the circuit from Olsen downstream, Crossover tunnel, Peanut line, to Olsen upstream. Last dive was some lost line drills at downstream Cow.

Wed we headed for Ginnie to do a high flow system. We entered the eye, then we were headed for the white room, but unfortunately one member of our team reached thirds just as we got to the point we were going to tie off our primary reel to the Bone line to go the last 150' into the white room. On the way out, we ended up doing air sharing drills through the exit via the eye. That was the final dive of our Full Cave training, so the next dive was to be a fun grad dive. Our instructor was having some problems equalizing, so it was just the three of us for our fun grad dive. We headed up the main line to the Hill 400 jump, then headed up that line. Overall, about an 1100' penetration. Exited via the eye to pull the reel we placed on the first dive, and did our deco(a bit over 20 minutes) in the eye.

Overall, 4 days of great diving and a few new sites to add to my list of 'must visit again'..


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