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paolov
June 22nd, 2005, 05:06 AM
what is the least destructive mode of fishing?
a. muro ami style fishing
b. drag net fishing
c. hook and line fishing
d. spear fishing
e. drift net fishing
f. cyanide fishing
g. dynamite fishing
Spoon
June 22nd, 2005, 05:52 AM
what is the least destructive mode of fishing?
a. muro ami style fishing
b. drag net fishing
c. hook and line fishing
d. spear fishing
e. drift net fishing
f. cyanide fishing
g. dynamite fishing
defintely spear fishing. its so ironic how some people feel guilty about spearing fishng yet buy from a market that employs all those destructive methods.
japan-diver
June 22nd, 2005, 05:56 AM
Spear fishing by far, no by-catch, no destruction of habitat, size and species specific, its even more eco-friendly than fish farming which can result in destruction of habitat, introduction of non-native species and a host of problems with waste accumulation.
Florabama
June 22nd, 2005, 06:36 AM
Spear fishing by far, no by-catch, no destruction of habitat, size and species specific, its even more eco-friendly than fish farming which can result in destruction of habitat, introduction of non-native species and a host of problems with waste accumulation.
Spear fishing by far. I go on charter fishing trips from time to time, and the number of fish too small to keep that are killed then thrown back is incredible. The dolphins and sharks have gotten smart. They know a charter fishing boat means the dinner bell is ringing so they circle the boat and wait for the "shorts" to get thrown back.
Charlie99
June 22nd, 2005, 06:57 AM
How about "fish farming" :)
mania
June 22nd, 2005, 07:13 AM
Well
In my homeland the most destructive is with the use of power - which is not listed in the poll.
These guys are puting electric wires into the lake and after that everything is dead....
The least destructive is farming.
Mania
paolov
June 22nd, 2005, 07:14 AM
How about "fish farming" :)
fish farming has been shown to have adverse effects by way of at least siltation and pollution.
Charlie99
June 22nd, 2005, 07:25 AM
fish farming has been shown to have adverse effects by way of at least siltation and pollution.
Obviously, the least impact method of fishing is "none".
Spearfishing is low impact, but also very low yield. Think about the incidental pollution from getting to and from the dive site,etc. to get a couple of fish.
Yes. Fish farming, if not done correctly, will pollute; but a well run fish farm is very productive with little pollution compared to the amount of fish generated.
Hank49
June 22nd, 2005, 07:40 AM
Yes. Fish farming, if not done correctly, will pollute; but a well run fish farm is very productive with little pollution compared to the amount of fish generated.
Halle...fricken..lujah. Do we have a PRO aquaculture advocate here? Charlie, you are welcome to come and dive off my boat anytime. All day, all week. Sea farming will feed our grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren. There is no other media plentiful enough once we have 20 billion people on the world.
But back to the topic. Spearfishing. Except for the fact that I burn about 25 gallons of gas getting to the good sites for 25 lbs of fish. I can run 4 acres worth of aerators with 70,000 lbs of shrimp on that much fuel.
RIDIVER501
June 22nd, 2005, 08:27 AM
Obviously, the least impact method of fishing is "none".
Spearfishing is low impact, but also very low yield. Think about the incidental pollution from getting to and from the dive site,etc. to get a couple of fish.
Yes. Fish farming, if not done correctly, will pollute; but a well run fish farm is very productive with little pollution compared to the amount of fish generated.
I am with you charlie. I dislike fish. Shell fish is ok, but I can't stand the taste of fish/fish. So for me fish are for looking at.
to quote Bruce. "Fish are friends not food"
Mike Veitch
June 22nd, 2005, 08:36 AM
Out of curiousity, why is this in the Philippines section?
Spearfishing is my answer as well.
Personally, i do no fishing and eat nothing that comes from the sea....
Charlie99
June 22nd, 2005, 09:12 AM
I am with you charlie. I dislike fish. Shell fish is ok, but I can't stand the taste of fish/fish. So for me fish are for looking at.
to quote Bruce. "Fish are friends not food"You misread my attitude about eating fish. I have nothing against spearfishing, and I often throw out a handline behind my sailing dinghy during a late morning sail and catch lunch. That's relatively low envirionmental impact if you discount the affect on seagulls that have learned to hang out for a free lunch after I'm done gutting and cleaning. OTOH, I eat very few clams and other shellfish. Filter filters like clams have a nasty tendency to accumulate and concentrate any contaminants in the water, such as the red tide neurotoxins or the PCBs left over from the capacitor plants in New Bedford.
I was just challenging people to think a bit about the true impacts of fish farming --- if done properly it has the potential of having the least impact of all. Fish farming isn't a very popular thing here in New Bedford area, particularly with the several neighbors that are commercial fishermen. New Bedford, MA is usually competing with Dutch Harbor and Kodiak, Alaska as to which port with have the highest total value of fishing catch each year ;)
Walter
June 22nd, 2005, 11:34 AM
What is muro ami style fishing?
jonnythan
June 22nd, 2005, 11:39 AM
"The practice requires children to dive to often dangerous depths to pound the easily broken corals with rocks or pipes to scare fish into a large waiting net.
Young divers often drown and the coral reefs become devastated."
Ana
June 22nd, 2005, 11:42 AM
How is the "muro ami style fishing" ?
BTW I agree with the fish farming suggestion. Not possible with every type of fish but I'm sure a comparison between a tilapia farm and a wheat field would yield amazing results when it comes to eficient way of feeding people.
Fortunately fish farming is happening, sometimes where you least think of it. If you ride 595 in Fort Lauderdale just west of I-95, under a flyover bridge in the south side you can find one of these farms that appears to be doing well. About 38 feet of brackish water connected to the Dania cut off canal.
As far as spearfishing, it can get very expensive if you think of fuel and similar factors but if you were going to go diving anyway, that expense doesn't go in the "food" line of the budget. It is money alocated for fun that produces dinner. I don't know a better way to use resources.
paolov
June 22nd, 2005, 07:00 PM
see this was the thought i was thinking when i was to do this poll.
that it would be country specific as to what is the mode of fishing done. hence i kept it under the Philipine section as the original discussion was hunting for a meal.
But since we ar it, it would also me nice if the mode of fishing is described in detail for those not so clear methods.
A SCUBABOARD MODERATOR may move this to a less country specific area if they may wish to involve the others all over.
paolov
June 22nd, 2005, 07:02 PM
What is muro ami style fishing?
jonnythan describe muro ami style fishing quite well.
thanks jonnythan
paolov
June 22nd, 2005, 07:06 PM
Obviously, the least impact method of fishing is "none".
Spearfishing is low impact, but also very low yield. Think about the incidental pollution from getting to and from the dive site,etc. to get a couple of fish.
Yes. Fish farming, if not done correctly, will pollute; but a well run fish farm is very productive with little pollution compared to the amount of fish generated.
i agree if the fish farming is done right. however LAguna de Bay (laguna, philippines) is a sad testament to the wrong way of fish farming that is repeated over and over again here in the philippines. another testament is the number of shrimp farms that destroyed a lot of mangroves then left idle due to wrong practices that resulted in virus proliferation. the culprit : GREED
Xizang
June 22nd, 2005, 09:55 PM
the culprit : GREED
poverty also which is caused by overpopulation.. too many people too little resources..
Epifauna
July 14th, 2005, 10:49 PM
Ban Bottom-trawling!!!
Diver Dennis
July 14th, 2005, 11:35 PM
It depends on the parameters you set to describe "least destructive". Sport, or hook and line fishing, based on the amount of money pumped into local economies per fish caught, at least here in Canada and I suspect in most other counties is by far the least destructive.
That said, as a diver I see and bring up pockets full of mono on a regular basis. 100lb. test, used in tropical waters, can do a lot of damage to reefs. As far as physical destruction, spearfishing would win as long as the divers we not "reef walkers".
oscar_2424
July 14th, 2005, 11:52 PM
what is the least destructive mode of fishing?
a. muro ami style fishing
b. drag net fishing
c. hook and line fishing
d. spear fishing
e. drift net fishing
f. cyanide fishing
g. dynamite fishing
SPEAR FISHING
Boogie711
July 15th, 2005, 12:18 AM
Halle...fricken..lujah. Do we have a PRO aquaculture advocate here? Charlie, you are welcome to come and dive off my boat anytime. All day, all week. Sea farming will feed our grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren. There is no other media plentiful enough once we have 20 billion people on the world.
But back to the topic. Spearfishing. Except for the fact that I burn about 25 gallons of gas getting to the good sites for 25 lbs of fish. I can run 4 acres worth of aerators with 70,000 lbs of shrimp on that much fuel.
You might be interested in knowing that I'm the published author of Framing the Fish Farmers (http://www.aims.ca/library/Chatterton.pdf) on "the Impact of Activists on Media and Public Opinion about the Aquaculture Industry..."
I've been the guest speaker at a number of Aquaculture related conferences and events. I believe Aquaculture has huge potential, but the industry is going to have to smarten up when it comes to their communication tactics if they ever want to be a genuine player...