Hose routing delimma

[DPS2]

Hello all,

I have been working on finding the optimum hose routing for my doubles. Here is my setup:

2 PST 104's with Dive Rite mainfold:
Right post: Poseidon 1st stage (dry suit inflator, primary reg, BC inflator
Left post: Apeks DS4 1st stage (backup reg, SPG)

Here is the problem that I am running into... my hoses are getting bent pretty bad as they come off the 1st stage - the necks on my 104's are not that tall. The problem is particularly bad on my left post. I tried to rotate the 1st stage counterclockwise a bit to take the stress off of my SPG hose but then encountered the problem of my backup reg hose going the opposite direction of where it needed to go. Does that make sense?

How I "fixed" the problem is not really how I would like for my hoses to be routed, but it seems like the best way to do it with the 1st stages that I have and without overstressing the hoses where they attach. I moved some of the hoses to the other side of the 1st stage and rotated the 1st stage to be parallel with the tanks. The hoses are now coming off of the 1st stage parallel to the manifold. Basically, it looks almost identical to the link on GUE's site on how not to route hoses! (http://www.gue.com/equipment/regulators8.html) While the routing seems to be more straightforward, I have hoses that are not where I want them to be - but I really don't have much choice! Ideas?


Thanks!

[Scubaroo]

Do you have a digital camera to post a picture of how you've routed the hoses? It might allow someone with doubles to suggest a better routing for those particular regulators.

[Uncle Pug]

I have DS4s on both posts... the inflator hose goes straight dwon hits the tank and takes a hard right angle to cross over to the left and the necklace goes down and hits the tank and takes a hard left to cross over to the right... I use stub stress reliefs on them.

[roakey]

All hoses go as straight down as possible from the regs, otherwise you block the access to your knobs.

Note that your backup reg hose and BC hose take almost immediate 90 degree bends to accomplish this. That's normal.

Roak

[omar]

as roak and up said.

Also I put the drysuit inflator on the left post. That way you will have an alternate inflation source if your primary free flows and you have to shut it down.

omar

[Uncle Pug]

Originally posted by omar
Also I put the drysuit inflator on the left post.
Hey.... what happened to the argon??? And the spiffy HP120 to refill the baby bottles???

[DPS2]

Attached is a photo of the bend in the hoses. I rotated the 1st stage a bit to take a bit of the bend out. Actually, it does not look too bad. I had to move my drysuit inflator hose to the left post since Poseidon has only 2 LP ports per side (why does anyone need 2 HP ports on a 1st stage?). Once I did that, I could accomodate everything ... I guess I answered my own question.

Here's a confession.... I was also trying to fgure out a way to be able to use my Super Wing (2 bladders) without completely having to redo my config. That does not seem possible.

My conclusion.... I will trade in the Super Wing for a Super One and buy a lift bag.

[DPS2]

Here is a better shot of the new setup

Sorry... I can post only 1 photo at a time!

[DPS2]

The old (bad) way. yech. Be gentle on the replies.




Go Hogs.

[Uncle Pug]

Originally posted by DPS2
Here's a confession.... I was also trying to fgure out a way to be able to use my Super Wing (2 bladders) without completely having to redo my config. That does not seem possible.

My conclusion.... I will trade in the Super Wing for a Super One and buy a lift bag.
DPS2.... now that we've got you straightened out on the hose routing we need to turn our attention the the wing selection...
Yes on selling the Super Wing... ebay is your friend...
No on trading it in on a Super One.... get a proper Halcyon...

[omar]

still there, but I am finding the 120 is pain in the a. It sounded good at the start. And last week diving 32 I ditched the bottle. I also have found that I prefer the bottle on the hip with doubles.

Things are rarely static around here. I pumped about 400 cuft of 30/30 yesterday using my new HeLIOX analyzer for the monitoring of the mix. works like a charm

omar

[Uncle Pug]

Originally posted by omar
I pumped about 400 cuft of 30/30 yesterday using my new HeLIOX analyzer for the monitoring of the mix. works like a charm

Shoot... I only thought computers were obsolete that fast...
Time for an upgrade?

When we are diving singles and 32 we just use that for suit gas...
But the dubs always get the little argon bottle on the plate.

[roakey]

Originally posted by DPS2
why does anyone need 2 HP ports on a 1st stage?
One port is for the hoseless pressure transmitter for the wrist mounted computer and the other for the backup SPG console with integrated computer/compass/divetracker.

This way when you're alone on a dive boat and the DM asks you to buddy with someone with the above mentioned configuration, you can look the DM in the eye and tell them you'd rather they slit your wrists and push you overboard with your air off in shark infested waters. The suffering will be much shorter.

If there was only one HP port, there'd be no way for divers like this to warn you off.

Roak

[WYDT]

Originally posted by roakey

This way when you're alone on a dive boat

Alone?? Roak I KNOW you're not doin Solo dives now are you??

STROKE!!!! hehe just kiddin... :D

[JamesK]

Originally posted by roakey

One port is for the hoseless pressure transmitter for the wrist mounted computer and the other for the backup SPG console with integrated computer/compass/divetracker.

This way when you're alone on a dive boat and the DM asks you to buddy with someone with the above mentioned configuration, you can look the DM in the eye and tell them you'd rather they slit your wrists and push you overboard with your air off in shark infested waters. The suffering will be much shorter.

If there was only one HP port, there'd be no way for divers like this to warn you off.

Roak

:D :D :D