Iantd Nitrox or Padi Nitrox

[deepocean]

Hi everyone;

i am trying to cover out which course i should take. I have the option between PADI nitrox or IANTD nitrox. Which one is a better choice? And WHY ? what are the excact reasons why one these are better? Which one discuss the theory and practical part better?

Thank you very much, xerxes

[Scubaroo]

I haven't seen the IANTD material, but I've just been through the TDI and PADI materials. As long as you're only planning to do recreational Nitrox for the foreseable future, PADI would be fine - they have a video which covers the both the theory and practical sides (with more of an emphasis on the practical side), and the test requires you work through quite a number of different dive scenarios using EAD (equivalent air depth) EAN32, and EAN36 tables, to give you experience in calculating max depths, oxygen exposures, etc etc.

TDI cover more of the theory behind Nitrox, making it a better candidate than PADI if you're planning on going beyond recreational diving. I've heard TDI and IANTD are somewhat similarly structured courses.

[deepocean]

Hi
thanks for the input. But: so you are saying TDI==PADI+some extra information and lessons about Nitrox.?

xerxes

[Scubaroo]

But: so you are saying TDI==PADI+some extra information and lessons about Nitrox.?Not really, PADI have a pretty good video that sums most of the Nitrox course up, as well as a manual, and TDI just had the manual, which was very straight to the point full of formulae and tables. What do you want the Nitrox for? If you never plan on doing anything other than recreational diving, PADI would be a good choice, if this is your first steps down a technical path (like me), then IANTD/TDI is probably a better choice. Try and get your hands on the PADI video anyway, it was well worth watching.

[Divesherpa]

PADI nitrox can't be taught in a cave!

[deepocean]

Hi

thanks for the info.


Let me get something clear here. Does the IANTD also do the calculations and stuff as much as the PADI?


Abouth the video: i will buy it as soon as i can.

Xerxes

[Iguana Don]

Yes

[globaldiver]

In my opinion IANTD has their standards set a bit higher since they are geared more toward the technical dive community (Basic- and Advanced Nitrox classes are however not regarded as technical diving classes).

The IANTD Nitrox classes are by many considered to be more demanding and detailed, and are therefore highly recommendable.

You can never go wrong with more knowledge and skill when diving Nitrox.

Sincerely

Anders :)

[deepocean]

Thank you all.

[andibk]

Xerxes,

You might want to check out a ANDI facility and see what they have to offer. The level 2 Complete Safeair course is a bit more then the PADI nitrox course. The information that you get from a ANDI manual seems to be quite a bit more then what you get in a PADI manual. They do not have a fancy film to show you but what you are paying for is the knowledge which makes up for that.

Bruce

[mlloyd]

I have done the IANTD course. The material was ok but as in any of these classes its the instructor who really counts.

It is such a simple class that either one should suffice.

[newwavedivers]

Basically, what you learn in PADI courses and courses from other agencies does not vary much. Sometimes, some people may claim that one agency is more technical (more information) than others based on the manual. A closer look will reveal that they just have about the same information except that PADI materials are packaged in such a way that it is easier to read and understand.

At the end of the day, it is your instructor who makes the difference. For instance, when I teach courses, I've been observed by other instructors to talk too much, which most of my students appreciates because they feel they learn a lot more.

[u.p.dvr]

My instructor, a very experienced tek diver let us look over both sets of teaching material. IANTD IS defintely more detailed in the mathematical i.e. planning side of the sport. If your looking to advance down the road into trimix, I think the IANTD would be more useful into getting a start on the math required for the more advanced mixed gas planning. Nowadays you can buy computers and software to do this but that's not much of a comfort, at least for me, if I have no idea what calculations the computer is doing. if you want to stick with rec nitrox the PADI course is great without overburdening you with theory.
one thing that amazed me is how many people are actually not even comfortable using std. dive tables.

[Quero]

My instructor, a very experienced tek diver let us look over both sets of teaching material. IANTD IS defintely more detailed in the mathematical i.e. planning side of the sport. If your looking to advance down the road into trimix, I think the IANTD would be more useful into getting a start on the math required for the more advanced mixed gas planning. <snip>

I just recently finished the IANTD Advanced Nitrox on the basis of my PADI Nitrox cert (from a while back). One of my classmates had gone straight from IANTD Nitrox to Advanced nitrox (literally one day to the next, without even getting wet in between). I couldn't see that either of us had any theory/knowledge advantage over the other, even though the theory was very fresh in his mind. My advantages were all practical since I'd already dived rec nitrox quite a lot and was familiar with anaylyzing EANx tanks, calculating MODs in real life, etc. I don't think it really matters which agency you use at this stage, even if you *do* want to go on to tek diving later.

[Daryl Morse]

You might want to check out a ANDI facility and see what they have to offer. The level 2 Complete Safeair course is a bit more then the PADI nitrox course. The information that you get from a ANDI manual seems to be quite a bit more then what you get in a PADI manual. They do not have a fancy film to show you but what you are paying for is the knowledge which makes up for that.I recently took the ANDI CSU course. I highly recommend this course. Search for my thread on ANDI CSU if you want to know more about what I learned in the classroom and the dives.

[wedivebc]

I recently took the ANDI CSU course. I highly recommend this course. Search for my thread on ANDI CSU if you want to know more about what I learned in the classroom and the dives.
I second and third Bruces and Daryl's endorsment of ANDI CSU. I did my nitrox through IANTD, it was a good course but... I am a current PADI instructor as well as ANDI instructor. I refuse to teach PADI nitrox because the information is inadequate for truly understanding the concepts you need to know.
ANDI has better written material than IANTD. PADI will sell you 2 tables and teach you how to plan dives using the 32 or the 36% table. Pretty lame in my mind.

Here is Daryl's thread. http://www.scubaboard.com/showthread.php?t=97330 It is pretty good.

[mossym]

i think 3 years later they have probably made up their mind..quero found a thread from 2002..

[wedivebc]

i think 3 years later they have probably made up their mind..quero found a thread from 2002..
Doh...

[Daryl Morse]

i think 3 years later they have probably made up their mind..quero found a thread from 2002..LOL!

[Quero]

i think 3 years later they have probably made up their mind..quero found a thread from 2002..


Guess I should take a specialty class in thread navigation! :heh_heh: (Though I'm probably subconsciously drawn to the topic by some other force because of my [somewhat unpleasant] experience with the IANTD course.) Sorry for having dragged you other folks through what was apparently my virtual psychotherapy. :sorry19z:

[Rick Inman]

i think 3 years later they have probably made up their mind..quero found a thread from 2002..
However, the link Dave gave us is current, and good.

[DivingCRNA]

I just did the PADI Nitrox course and it seemed very complete. BUT, I cannot say everything I now know about Nitrox is from PADI because I do anesthesia for a living and on and off gas patients with various gasses all day.

I will say this about the PADI course-the book is MUCH more detailed than the video. I went through the 100 page book in about 90 minutes and did all the knowledge reviews and tests learned a lot. I need to review it more to get details to stick, but the info is there.