View Full Version : There rules to tying something to the anchor line?
NJDevil
November 21st, 2005, 10:12 PM
Suppose I was on a dive and found something that I didnt think I could surface.
Are there any unwritten rules on tying the item to the boats anchor line? Its not every day your going to find something that you would want to surface that is beyond your carry capacity and if you didnt clear this with the boat ahead of time because lets face it you didnt anticipate finding anything of value of any significant weight. Whats the thought on surfacing something like that?
Northeastwrecks
November 21st, 2005, 10:17 PM
I wouldn't try to surface a heavy item using my BC. That's why I've got a lift bag, which has something like 80 lbs of lift. If I can't lift it with that, my buddy's got her lift bag. If we can't lift it using those, then its way too heavy to put on the anchor line.
Personally, I wouldn't tie anything to the anchor line. I don't imagine that the captain would appreciate hauling in my artifact. Depending on where and how you tie off, you might also create issues for the divers who are going to foul the hook.
Even if I were inclined to do it, I'd make sure that I understood how the boat was tied in. On my preferred boat, we frequently set and leave a mooring. It'd be kinda embarassing to leave my artifact along with the mooring.
NJDevil
November 21st, 2005, 10:57 PM
That sounds reasonable to me. The reason I ask is I was on a dive where the divers couldnt surface something and upon boarding notified the captain that they tied their item to the anchor. The captain didnt mind this but I couldnt imagine other boats taking the same stance. This was a pretty beefy boat and the boat did specialize in divers so I assume this took place occasionally.
Thanks for the reply.
genxweb
November 22nd, 2005, 09:24 AM
so what did they find that they needed to tie off to surface it?
NJDevil
November 22nd, 2005, 10:20 AM
Nothing major just several bags of Muscles. We dropped down on a dive right in the middle of a huge bed of them. Nicely sized too.
Blueskys4ever
November 24th, 2005, 03:41 PM
Just don't tie a WW II mine to the anchor line.
This is the only rule.
Tom Yerian
November 24th, 2005, 08:23 PM
As I said in a previous post, Iam into treasure, and artifacts. I am from the keys, thats all I do is look for antiquities. To get it up, there is nothing wrong in using your anchor line if its your boat, if not your boat, ask the captains permission befor doing so.Think as you go. If the seas picked up to 6-7 or better, it could become a safety issue. Other than that, go for it! If you are in the habit of bringing up heavy things, lower a 1/2 line ove the sie to the bottom with a good heavy duty clip on it and you will be ready to haul up a lot of stuff.....Capt. Tom
Big D
December 3rd, 2005, 02:00 PM
Tom, if you're bringing up antiquities too heavy to use an 80lb lift bag, I WANNA GO DIVING WITH YOU!!!
:)
Big D
ScubaFrog01
December 4th, 2005, 08:27 PM
Tom, if you're bringing up antiquities too heavy to use an 80lb lift bag, I WANNA GO DIVING WITH YOU!!!
:)
Big D
Me Too..............so when is the next dive.
scuba lover
December 23rd, 2005, 10:04 PM
we always have a half inch line cliped onto us with a bouy tied to the other end so that the dive boat can easy track us in windy weather,,everyone knows where we are all the time..siginal with a couple plucks for the dive boat to come over and drop a bag with a rope and bouy down to you and then he can pull up your catch of scallops , musells ,urchins, lobsters, etc.
Tom Yerian
December 26th, 2005, 05:03 PM
Tom, if you're bringing up antiquities too heavy to use an 80lb lift bag, I WANNA GO DIVING WITH YOU!!!
:)
Big D Guys i was referring to some common heavy that is found to heavy for a diver to pick up! But,...There are ways you get things in the ocean you find, that you want to keep;that ertain Auth. think they own them, after you work to research, hunt and find! The essence of my being believes, that what ever is found in the sea it is by divine guidance, and is not subject to unconstitionaly enacted laws! That is where I stand in regards to anything that is found, in any body of water, by any one, any where,at any time! Weather its gold and jewels, off a spanish galleon,or booty of any kind off of modern vessels, There is ancient, FINDERS RIGHTS!! It was good for over 5000 years or more, Than it should be no different today!!!....Than You....Capt.Tom
Tom Yerian
December 26th, 2005, 05:23 PM
Excuse the misspelling of a couple of the words. I just get a little emotional over this subject, and mess p....Capt. Tom
octotat
January 3rd, 2006, 03:46 PM
While in Alaska I found a 10 lb. lead fish shaped dowrigger or sinker, and I carried and attached to the anchor, as I don't like going near the surface with something that heavy using the BC for flotation (drop the object and get a trip to the chamber). I didn't have any lift bags with me and wasn't trained in their use at that time. The captain didn't mind, and I really just recovered it to give to him anyway for anchor or diving weights. He did joke about making me pull up the line though.
flounderer
January 3rd, 2006, 04:46 PM
Suppose I was on a dive and found something that I didnt think I could surface.
Are there any unwritten rules on tying the item to the boats anchor line? Its not every day your going to find something that you would want to surface that is beyond your carry capacity and if you didnt clear this with the boat ahead of time because lets face it you didnt anticipate finding anything of value of any significant weight. Whats the thought on surfacing something like that?
All I can add is use your judgment. Is it on a private or charter boat, who is pulling the anchor? Is the object cool enough to get a hernia over?
When crewing on a charter boat a few years ago, some divers decided to collect anchors and tie them to the boats anchor. After pulling 4 anchors with all their chain from over 100ft by hand I was a little tired. Then I was a little pissed when they didn't want them and chucked them overboard.
If you tie something to the line just be willing to help pull it up when the mate gives out.
Pat