techdivinglimited tank deal

[jham2081]

I'm having a hard time trying to find a reason not to pick up a LP95 from these guys. It would be my first tank purchase. It just seems like an amazing price. Are Hydros/VIPs super expensive and would negate the value of a hobby 10-15 dives a year diver?

[drbill]

Annual VIPs here are $15 and every fifth year hydros are $35. I've got four tanks so it does add up, but I try to space my tanks out re: hydros. Of course I do 250-350 dives a year so renting tanks would be MUCH more expensive.

[Mark Vlahos]

I'm having a hard time trying to find a reason not to pick up a LP95 from these guys. It would be my first tank purchase. It just seems like an amazing price. Are Hydros/VIPs super expensive and would negate the value of a hobby 10-15 dives a year diver?
I have done business with Joel many times in the past, he is top notch.

The best way to find out what the yearly costs of owning a tank in your area will be is to call your favorite local shop and ask what the rental price of an already filled tank is and compare it to the cost of getting your own tank filled. You would also want to ask how much an annual "Visual Inspection" costs on a steel tank, I say steel tank because it might cost less than an aluminum tank. Once every 5 years the tank will need a "hydro", this is a far more rigorous inspection and will cost more than the yearly inspection. If you dive NITROX you might need to keep the tank "O2 clean" for "Oxygen service" this will add to the cost of the yearly inspection but will only be a factor if you are using NITROX.

Oh, and if you buy one tank consider the added costs of another tank because you might need two tanks for two dives, if there is not a compressor at your dive site or on the boat. Getting the tanks filled is not usually a problem if the shop is convienient, just drop them off and a day or two later at your convienience drop buy and pick them up. The same number of trips to the dive shop as renting unless you rent a tank at the dive site.

Mark Vlahos

[DepthCharge]

Annual VIPs here are $15 and every fifth year hydros are $35. I've got four tanks so it does add up, but I try to space my tanks out re: hydros. Of course I do 250-350 dives a year so renting tanks would be MUCH more expensive.

I take my tanks directly to the gas supplier that does the hydros..........only $15. A bit better than the 100%+ mark-up at the LDS.

[drbill]

Actually I take mine directly to the outfit that does the hydros in-house. This is California, so everything is inflated (including 86.4% of the breasts you see on blondes here).

[Humuhumunukunukuapua'a]

I shied away from tank purchase for a while, but now that I got a couple, it really is convenient to not have to pick em up, drop em off. You try to keep them full and you can dive any time because you have everything you need.

I don't know what that convenience is worth to you, but where I am, it's worth a lot.

Gregg

[Mark Vlahos]

This is California, so everything is inflated (including 86.4% of the breasts you see on blondes here).

California, home of "The best bodies money can buy."

Mark Vlahos

[JS1scuba]

I'm having a hard time trying to find a reason not to pick up a LP95 from these guys. It would be my first tank purchase. It just seems like an amazing price. Are Hydros/VIPs super expensive and would negate the value of a hobby 10-15 dives a year diver?

Greetings,

Yeah it's a killer deal. And hundreds of divers have taken advantage of it. What happens when you own your own tanks is you have FREEDOM to dive when you want with what you want. You won't be limited to nasty rental tanks with cruddy valves and partial fills. You will also find that getting air fills becomes a social activity and you will meet more people and as a result go diving more often.

Think of it like this. Would you have a car without tires ? Having dive equipment without a tank is like a car with no tires .... you can dress up but can't go anywhere.

<nice analogy huh? >

Anyway..... we sell more tank to more divers than anyone. Let us take care of you too!

We still have some of the 95s available. And, like Mark said..... get two.

Cheers

[jham2081]

well geeze, should have known you all wouldn't help me think of reasons not to do it... looks like I'll be checking prices on VIPs/Hydros and then more than likely placing an order... still have some thinking to do on getting 2 instead of one though.

[Dive-aholic]

With your own tanks, those 10-15 dives a year will multiply and it will be worth it.

[Kevfin]

...so everything is inflated (including 86.4% of the breasts you see on blondes here).

... is that a bad thing? :D

Having your own tank is nice. There are responsibilities that go along with ownership (hydros, care, visuals, etc.). However, I think in the long run it is worth it...

Joel seems like a nice guy too...

[Blitz]

I have bought several items, including a pair of LP95's from Joel. You won't go wrong.

[jham2081]

once a 95 loses its +, how many cuft does it hold?

[JeffG]

once a 95 loses its +, how many cuft does it hold?
95 IIRC

Edit...but I might of recalled wrong. Doing a bit of searching some people say the 95ft3 is based on the + rating... so that leaves us with 86.4cu.ft after you forget to certify it for the +

[dab]

get the tanks..........you won't find a better deal than Joel is offering and you will be glad you did.

[Leadking]

once a 95 loses its +, how many cuft does it hold?


Most manufacturers now put the REE number on the tank so that the lazy hydro guys don't have to figure it it on their fingers-that is the reaseon why most tanks lost the plus rating at hydro.

[spectrum]

well geeze, should have known you all wouldn't help me think of reasons not to do it... looks like I'll be checking prices on VIPs/Hydros and then more than likely placing an order... still have some thinking to do on getting 2 instead of one though.

Just giving you the whole picture.

Hydro is every 5 and you payback the VIP in 2-3 rentals. Peanuts in light of the whole scuba investment.

As said owning is the way to go if you have any aspirations of being an active local diver.

If you stagger them it may help with budgeting if that's a concern. Buy separately or just bring 1 in early or let on go inactive for a month or 2.

Pete

[mike_s]

I'm having a hard time trying to find a reason not to pick up a LP95 from these guys. It would be my first tank purchase. It just seems like an amazing price. Are Hydros/VIPs super expensive and would negate the value of a hobby 10-15 dives a year diver?


the LP95's (http://66.225.239.89/~scuba/tdl/nstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_95&products_id=611&zenid=49dce4b630b461e30fbcf5ec42b64d66) are a good deal on the tanks.... you prob won't find them this
cheap elsewhere.

Like everyone else said, owning your own tanks makes diving so much
easier even if it isn't cost productive for most divers.

but just FYI. These are 2004 hydro/manufactur tanks. Seeing how
2006 is only 'days' away and that most folks don't dive much in the
winter anyway, especialy in Ohio where you live, you pretty much
need to consider them being 2 years 'into hydro service date' when
you buy them. So expect to have to hydro them in just 3 more years.
not a big deal, but just an FYI so you don't get them and expect
not to have to hdyro them for 5 years exactly from the date you
bought them. That's most likely the reason they are on sale
for such a good price. But regardless, it's still a good deal.

[jham2081]

Thanks for all the input. I'm pulling the trigger today.

[DepthCharge]

Actually I take mine directly to the outfit that does the hydros in-house. This is California, so everything is inflated (including 86.4% of the breasts you see on blondes here).

I'll take 2 of the blondes:07:

[sciencediver1]

I have purchased several cylinders from Joel at TDL, it's a killer deal and he's a great guy to do business with. Buy em before their all gone!

[DivesWithTurtles]

I'll take 2 of the blondes:07:
That would be 4 cylinders. Very high pressure. Are you sure that you can provide adequate fills?

[Mark Vlahos]

That would be 4 cylinders. Very high pressure. Are you sure that you can provide adequate fills?

Just make sure that the burst disks are in good shape, you really wouldn't want one of them to just let go!

[JS1scuba]

Just make sure that the burst disks are in good shape, you really wouldn't want one of them to just let go!

Mark is sounds like you are not getting enough of something here and I think you need a nice cold dive :D


Cheers

[El Tiburon]

I ordered my two LP 95's from Joel on Saturday and received them today. They're under the xmas tree, out of the box, with red bows on them. everytime I walk by I have to stop and look at them, what a sight. Thanks Joel.

PS: any advice on installing the valves or should I just let the LDS take care of it?

[jham2081]

I ordered my two LP 95's from Joel on Saturday and received them today. They're under the xmas tree, out of the box, with red bows on them. evrytime I walk by I have to stop and look at them, what a sight. Thanks Joel.
it?

I'm jealous. I also ordered saturday, but I'm still anxiously awaiting their arrival :) I'm not upset or anything, just looking forward to it.



PS: any advice on installing the valves or should I just let the LDS take care of it?

Good question... any takers?

[El Tiburon]

I e-mailed Joel from TDL asking for advise on installing the valves on the tanks and this was his reply:

Installing the valve is a cinch -- put the snorkel tube on the valve
base and tighten up with a pair of pliers -- dont score it so hold it tight --

put some oxygen compatible lube on the threads -- just a little and
put valve on hand tight -- that's it.

[limeyx]

California, home of "The best bodies money can buy."

Mark Vlahos


Yeah, if you like huge plastic tits and skin that's been "lifted" into all sorts of shapes (and yes, I *do* live in CA :)

[paulwall]

I e-mailed Joel from TDL asking for advise on installing the valves on the tanks and this was his reply:

Installing the valve is a cinch -- put the snorkel tube on the valve
base and tighten up with a pair of pliers -- dont score it so hold it tight --

put some oxygen compatible lube on the threads -- just a little and
put valve on hand tight -- that's it.


Did the tank come with a VIP? If not, have the LDS do it and install the valve at the same time.

I know, I know, new tanks don't really need a VIP, but they do have to have a sticker, don't they?

[crlavoie]

I'm having a hard time trying to find a reason not to pick up a LP95 from these guys. It would be my first tank purchase. It just seems like an amazing price. Are Hydros/VIPs super expensive and would negate the value of a hobby 10-15 dives a year diver?

FWIW, I've been very happy with my Worthington LP 108's that I purchased over the summer. Great bouyancy characteristics, and the length is just right to help us tall skinny guys trim out. Sort of makes me resent my AL 80's. I just wish I saw tech diving's prices then. Good deals.

Regardless, you gotta have your own tanks, IMHO.

[jham2081]

thanks... you guys convinced me and i have two on order :)

[jham2081]

got them today

[drbill]

Thanks for the pointer to this site. I'm looking at his cylinders.

As for the blondes, I don't date women who have had breast enhancements. It tells me something about the state (and maybe size) of their minds. I prefer them natural regardless of size. Of course breast reconstruction after surgery is a different issue. And this is not necessarily a California "wide" issue... it seems the women of northern California are less prone to self mutilation!

[scubavince]

I'm generally don't mind enhancements, who knows... they could be addressing trim/bouyancy issues. Although I do draw line if the enhancements are bungied.

Vince