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souren
July 24th, 2002, 06:17 PM
Hi everyone
I am new to this forum so if my question has already been asked I apologise.

I have been diving in the med for a couple of years now and want to know if there is any kind of water bottle I can take with me when diving.

My mouth gets awfully dry during dives and I wondered if anyone had invented some sort of squeezy bottle with some kind of valve so I can take a sip of water while diving?

kelpmermaid
July 24th, 2002, 06:46 PM
in fact, I remember seeing something like that at the Scuba Show in Long Beach, not this past June, but in June 2001. I can't remember what it is called, but if I come across it, I'll let you know.

rcohn
July 24th, 2002, 06:52 PM
I'm told (by a reliable source) that it is possible to drink a juice box underwater (I haven't tried it). The trick is to insert the straw (which should be unwrapped before the dive if wearing gloves). Then quickly drink the entire 8 ounce box without stopping. A little salt water gets in the box when the straw is inserted, but not too much. If you try to stop drinking and start again a good deal of salt water will enter the box.

This page has a picture of divers drinking, page down to the middle.
http://www.oceanicresearch.org/dolphintrip.htm


Ralph

Drew Sailbum
July 24th, 2002, 07:08 PM
The SCUDA (Self-Contained Underwater Drinking Apparatus) is one option. It is essentially a drink bag with a hose and special mouthpiece which replaces your current mouthpiece on your regulator.

Another option for dry mouth is the Apollo Bio Filter. It is an in-line filter that attaches between your first stage and your second stage hose. It contains a filter which you saturate with distilled water before you dive. The dry air coming from your tank is somewhat humidified as it passes through this device.

A few regulators claim to assist by placing thin metal vents in the regulator body. As you exhale, some of the moisture in your breath condenses on the vents, and is then evaporated by the incoming dry air with your next breath. It helps "reclaim" some of the moisture in your exhaled breath.

DiveTub
July 24th, 2002, 07:16 PM
I use a small sprots water bottle, as long as it is completley before you dive they work fine.

jrtonkin
July 25th, 2002, 03:05 PM
Check at your local hiking/backpacking/camping or possibly cycling store. There's a product called (at least under one tradename) a CamelPak.

Basically it's a heavy duty plastic bag, with an attached hose, and the hose has a bite-valve on the end of it.

Because the bag is flexible, there's no worries about pressure issues or air-spaces, and it will be basically neutral-buoyant.

I don't know how good the bite-valve would be for extended immersion. I know that it's (on land) good enough to stop the thing from leaking though.

Jamie

FredT
July 25th, 2002, 03:25 PM
Platex Nursers are pressure balanced liquid sources. Simply slighlty enlarge the nipple hole and plug with toothpick stub plug.

To use it grab the nipple and seal it with your with lips, pull plug with teeth and drink, then reinsert plug. Even if the plug is not reseated the pressure balanced aspect makes it unlikely to gain much seawater.

You do have to put up with bunnies and duckies on your scuba gear though, unless of course you own a belt sander. :devilish:

FT

Ranz
July 25th, 2002, 08:15 PM
A regular water bottle works just fine if you have the spout, just drink some water, and close the spout without letting the suction suck any outside water.
I know someone that gets a starburst, chews it, then lines his lower gums with it, and when he is dry, he chews on the candy (have to wonder about cavities on that one tho).
Ranz

otter-cat
July 26th, 2002, 01:09 AM
If there is an easy way to drink water underwater, it should be a standard part of every diver's gear. Considering that dehydration is a risk factor for DCS, and that divers can become dehydrated on dives, shouldn't we all drink water during the dive if it could reduce our risk of DCS?

I'm not sure how I would mount a CamelPak. Any ideas? Is the SCUDA a real product? Does anyone know where to find one?

nickjb
July 26th, 2002, 04:20 AM
you might want to consider a P valve too ;)

Zept
July 26th, 2002, 05:03 AM
Originally posted by otter-cat
Is the SCUDA a real product? Does anyone know where to find one?

SCUDA Web site: http://www.scuda.com/

Call me paranoid, but I don't fancy a regulator that can squirt water into my mouth as well as air. Only one of those two fluids is good to breathe!

Zept

Scubaroo
July 26th, 2002, 12:41 PM
I wonder if you could put a Platypus bag or CamelPak in the Halcyon backplate cover... that's if the pocket wasn't upside down... I reckon a 2.2L size partially filled would slip in there nicely, and you could route the drinking hose alongside of the LP inflator hose and have the drinking end come out near the inflator - nice and streamlined :tease:

Might have to do something about the wingnuts and bolts poking holes in it though.

geebee
July 29th, 2002, 12:27 AM
I had a SCUDA for many years. I no longer use it. I LOVED being able to drink UW. I get a bit dehydrated diving, no matter how much water I drink beforehand. My throat also gets very dry.

I found that apple juice was the best drink for the SCUDA. No pulp, no bubbles, no alchohol allowed. The apple juice quenched my thirst, took away that lousy salt water taste, and the bit of sugar in it gave me a little energy rush.

However, the SCUDA was a complicated piece of equipment that failed too many times. It just became too much of a PITA to be worth it.

I DO miss the UW drink though, and would love to see a simple bottle type solution that could be carried in a pocket or clipped on.

Gerry

Zept
August 6th, 2002, 08:31 PM
Came across this gizmo this morning: Sea Pump (http://www.tobe-sports.com/e/product.html)

chepar
August 6th, 2002, 08:40 PM
Zept once bubbled...
Came across this gizmo this morning: Sea Pump (http://www.tobe-sports.com/e/product.html)

I wonder if it works well. I would say that a dry throat/mouth is probably my number 1 irritant while diving. I have tried the candy thing, tucking the mint in my cheek area - doesn't work. My dry throat usually ends up causing a gagging reflex while underwater - not pleasant. I have been known to let salt water into my mouth in small amounts just to avoid the gag reflex.

Inspector#2
August 6th, 2002, 08:57 PM
Its all I have ever used. Pull reg out of mouth, put in camelbak end, suck, replace reg, and repeat.

I just attach mine to the left side of my body with the existing straps which happen to have quick disconnects.

Dave

Canuck Diver
August 7th, 2002, 12:50 AM
I use a 500ml camel back bag only and it works fine. The water bag goes in my BCD pocket and the hose gets attached to my BCD inflator hose. When I want a drink, out goes the reg, in goes the bite mouthpiece, take a drink and back out again.

This system is cheap (you don't need the full camel back system, just the bag and hose), neat, and works very well.

Cheers.

Update:
Sorry, Dave (below) is right, it's not the Camel Back I use, it's a Platypus bag and hose. MUCH cheaper....

wetman
August 7th, 2002, 06:49 AM
Which camelbak are you guys using?

I was on their site and they seem to have a bunch of options there.

steve

Inspector#2
August 7th, 2002, 09:44 AM
I use the Mule but that is overkill for diving-just happens to be the only one I have. One of the cheap 70 ouncers will work great. If you go through that much you are working too hard and your drysuit isn't dry anymore. I haven't tried a Platypus but like Canuck was saying all you need is the bladder and tube if you have some way to store it. If you do some hiking get a good one with pockets and then it can do both hobbies.

Dave

Norm
September 14th, 2002, 03:26 PM
We recently spent 3 days u/w, (71:39:40 to be exact), and we used the bike bottles with the pop-up caps. They work swell, as do bottled water with the same type cap. Also, they can be frozen before the dive, (and thaw very quickly), to provide LOTS of coldwater.
Have you considered: 1.A second stage that is totally metal? 2. A Zeagle second stage with metal "guts"? 3. A Sherwood model above the Magnum level designed especially for this purpose? 4.One of the (Apollo?) hose inserts that moisturizes your inhaled air? 5.Scuda, if they are still available?
Just some thoughts....

GDI
November 9th, 2002, 11:16 PM
:doctor:
Well I have seen the SCUDA and just a case in point I put it down in another thread. Water sprayed down the throat - not a good thing

I tested the Apollo Bio Filter and again not a good thing. Cheap material and construction.

The best thing I found was just a good ol' gatorade bottle with a spout cap. You just pop the bottle in your mouth pull on the cap drink until your content and then close the cap. Oh yeh remove the reg before this process and replace it when it's time to breath. Also to keep from getting hungry following those real long dives during may deco stops I'll eat a Banana.

Cherry
November 10th, 2002, 01:08 AM
Im gonna have to check this seapump thing out I get heartburn real bad and 250 Ml of milk would just be the ticket :)

Firefly
November 14th, 2002, 12:53 AM
I am so glad to hear that the Camelbak/Platy works, I have one lying around gathering dust and I always wondered if it would do the job! :thumb: :snorkel:

mddolson
November 14th, 2002, 04:01 PM
Buy a wine-skin, the love of snowmobilers and ice fisheman world wide.

1) get yourself a wine-skin. (fill with freah water or fruit juice)
2) Add a bolt clip (DIR)
3) clip it you your D ring or put in bc pocket (non DIR)
4) take breath, remove regulator, uncap wine-skin,squeeze, drink.
5) recap wins-skin, replsce regulator, clear and breath.

Not rocket science

MikeD
:blfish:

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