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JKSteger
March 5th, 2006, 11:01 PM
I saw some Trident weightbelt suspenders and wanted to know if anyone used them. I have a terrible problem of my weightbelt slipping down during the dive. I suffer from the "noassatall" syndrome and if not for my crotch strap being over the weight belt it would probably fall off of my body.
I'm wanting to take the inexpensive route 1st before I buy the Diverite transweight 16.
Thanks,
Jeremy
oly5050user
March 5th, 2006, 11:15 PM
I saw some Trident weightbelt suspenders and wanted to know if anyone used them. I have a terrible problem of my weightbelt slipping down during the dive. I suffer from the "noassatall" syndrome and if not for my crotch strap being over the weight belt it would probably fall off of my body.
I'm wanting to take the inexpensive route 1st before I buy the Diverite transweight 16.
Thanks,
Jeremy
you really should not have a crotch strap cover the belt.goes against all safety pratices...I would rather loose the belt accidently ( in most instances)than not be able to get rid of it..the DUI harness is not expensive,around $90.retail..and it is a good comfortable choice.and is ditchable...I had someone almost drown because of the belt being covered by a strap that I had to assist to sty on surface..
spectrum
March 5th, 2006, 11:55 PM
I second the DUI Teight & Trim II. I have a pair of the add on suspenders and they would solve the problem but it's kludgey and you end up with 2 chest buckles that need to be accesible.
The DUI is a much more workable solution in the unlikely event that you need to ditch weights. For one thing you can ditch 50% at a time. Also since the pockets build outward all of the weight in on your sides and none is up on the back of your hips. Mine's loaded with the full 40 pounds and in the water I don't know it's there. Out of the water the 40 pounds carries nicely.
Depending on your trim situation the DUI harness will let you run the weights very low on your body which is great with my drysuit. An integrated rig won't let you dio that.
BTW Airplane II is my favorite picture of all time. I won;t say what my wife thinks of my taste in movies.
Pete
Nemrod
March 6th, 2006, 01:17 AM
Actually many divers now wear the weightbelt under the crotch strap. Like many rules the weight belt dropping came from the pre-BC era. During that time, with no BC, dropping the belt was to aid swimming up to the surface and or staying on the surface--in an emergency or if fatigued. Now with BCs or wings with power inflators and often dry suits, dropping a belt is not especially useful and may be dangerous. N
Sasquatch
March 6th, 2006, 02:17 AM
The DUI harness system is what I've used the last 40 dives and it's great. As the previous posts state I concur all the way.
Sea ya!
JustinW
March 6th, 2006, 03:50 AM
Funny, the DUI weight system was my first thought when i read this thread.
http://www.dui-online.com/bc_wt.htm
JKSteger
March 6th, 2006, 09:06 AM
Thanks,
I will forgoe the suspenders and pony up the $$$ for the DUI weight system.
Jeremy
oly5050user
March 6th, 2006, 09:17 AM
Actually many divers now wear the weightbelt under the crotch strap. Like many rules the weight belt dropping came from the pre-BC era. During that time, with no BC, dropping the belt was to aid swimming up to the surface and or staying on the surface--in an emergency or if fatigued. Now with BCs or wings with power inflators and often dry suits, dropping a belt is not especially useful and may be dangerous. N
many divers do it so its alright??the weightbelt dropping has been around for a reason..pre bc or after..what do you say to the diver who is overweighted and jumps in with air turned off?? Or forgot to connect his power inflator and forgot how to inf bc orally?he sinks to the bottom ,discovers the air is off and has no way to inflate anything..the diver caught on surface ,in current,choppy seas?? I am a diver who dove in the pre bc era and seen too many divers who needed to drop weight not do so either because they panic or can't because something covered belt..Very bad pratice,does not leave you an option or an out if the situation arises..anyone try that on my boat is told nicely to do it correctly or does not dive..its not considered a standard or safe pratice..
JKSteger
March 6th, 2006, 03:14 PM
many divers do it so its alright??the weightbelt dropping has been around for a reason..pre bc or after..what do you say to the diver who is overweighted and jumps in with air turned off?? Or forgot to connect his power inflator and forgot how to inf bc orally?he sinks to the bottom ,discovers the air is off and has no way to inflate anything..the diver caught on surface ,in current,choppy seas?? I am a diver who dove in the pre bc era and seen too many divers who needed to drop weight not do so either because they panic or can't because something covered belt..Very bad pratice,does not leave you an option or an out if the situation arises..anyone try that on my boat is told nicely to do it correctly or does not dive..its not considered a standard or safe pratice..
Good point. Lets not start any flames or anything. That was just the way I was shown how to wear my BP/W from a video I saw from G.I. As soon as I get my DUI harness in it won't be a problem!
Thanks,
Jeremy
Green_Manelishi
March 6th, 2006, 03:43 PM
I'll also chime in with a recommendation for the DUI W&T system. Keep in mind there are two models. Either one should suit your purpose.
Mr Carcharodon
March 6th, 2006, 11:49 PM
"many divers do it so its alright??..
Maybe, maybe not, depends on your training I guess.
..what do you say to the diver who is overweighted and jumps in with air turned off?? ??..
Well I would tell them to reach back and turn their air on. Or they could have their buddy do the same. Or they could still drop their weight belt. After they get back on the boat a discussion on being overweighted would be in order too.
Or forgot to connect his power inflator and forgot how to inf bc orally?he sinks to the bottom , ??..
Well of course you could just reconnect the power inflator, and finish the dive. People who can not remember how to inflatate orally should take up an other sport. Pressing a button and blowing is not a hard concept.
..the diver caught on surface ,in current,choppy seas?? ??..
The oral inflator would be the better option here.
Feelings about what is standard and safe may differ. I respect your opinion and certainly do not intend this to be a flame but there are other options.
carldarl
March 9th, 2006, 01:11 AM
I just picked up my new DUI W&T system yesterday. I chose the "classic" model due to more adjustability and pocket design though either one will work equally fine. I am excited to try it out but need to wait for the new Transpac/wing coming Friday. (I hope)
Tom Smedley
March 9th, 2006, 09:03 AM
I have used the DUI weight system for a few years now and find it wonderful. The belt is not tight around your waist and you don't have to worry about finding it down round the knees. I started wearing it with dry suit but now use it with wetsuit too. The thing I like most is that I can slide the weights up and down on my body to get the trim that I want with any suit or system.
You won't be sorry that you went for the extra $$$
Thanks,
I will forgoe the suspenders and pony up the $$$ for the DUI weight system.
Jeremy
craborn
March 9th, 2006, 09:32 AM
I got the use the DUI weight system two years ago at a DUI DEMO it was great. I am glad someone added the link. I think I may buy one. CLay
Divin'Hoosier
March 9th, 2006, 09:50 AM
Quick question that may be stupid, but I need to ask anyway as I'm new to the whole BP/Harness setup. If I go with the DUI Harness instead of a weight belt, do I put the DUI Harness on 1st underneath the BP/W harness?
spectrum
March 9th, 2006, 11:14 AM
Weight harness goes under. The weight pockets are the ditchable elements.
Pete
scubajcf
March 9th, 2006, 11:50 AM
Just tested out DUI Weight System for first time last night. I had 20 pounds and barely knew it was there. Weight pockets removed easily. Be careful with two belt straps. If BC belt is under Weight system, the pockets may get tied up on them.
Once removed, the pockets are a pain in the butt to get back into the harness.
I love the system. Great for dry suit guys who have problems with weight belts that droop around the knees.
Divin'Hoosier
March 9th, 2006, 11:55 AM
Weight harness goes under. The weight pockets are the ditchable elements.
Pete
Thanks Pete. I thought that was the case but wanted to make sure. Once I get all this gear purchased, didn't want to look like a dweeb the first time I gear up with it!