Technical Diving In Depth

[Ari]

Anyone already read the new Bruce Wienke book?

Would you recommend it the non-tech divers (or tech divers to be)?

I will be very interested to hear. I am in the USA next week and will be very happy to pick up a copy at Barnes & Noble.

Ari :book:

[omar]

Dr Wienke's books are heavy on the math. It is good if you really want to get one of the most complete pictures of where technical diving is at today (ie modeling, decompression theory, etc).
It is not like the IANTD texts or any other typical diving book, which is good in my opinion.

I doubt that you will be able to pick one up at Barnes and Noble. I ordered mine through Best Publishing (the publisher).

[jeffsterinsf]

A technical book about diving, more than a book about techinical diving. Looking for a book on what gas to use on a 285' dive with 20 min of bottom time? This isn't the one...

Excellent if you are interested in understanding the current (and past) thinking in tissue and gas modeling. Highly recommended if things like "maximum liklihood" and "second-order differential equations" don't turn you off. Completely readable if you don't understand the math.

Highly recommended for those that want to understand the theory behind the practice.

(Available through better local independent booksellers by special order, or by last resort, Amazon)

[detroit diver]

I use it to fall asleep or when I run out of magazines in the bathroom.....

It's way beyond me.

[Uncle Pug]

detroit diver once bubbled...
I use it to fall asleep or when I run out of magazines in the bathroom.....

Even at the price I paid for it at Barnes & Noble (Omar) seems awful expensive to use for that...

[detroit diver]

Uncle Pug once bubbled...

Even at the price I paid for it at Barnes & Noble (Omar) seems awful expensive to use for that...

There's a lot of pages in that book!

[100days-a-year]

My local Books-a Million has them in stock.Pre-read one over a up of coffee....it is a load for some.BTW Welcome!

[ElectricZombie]

There is some very heavy duty math going on there...I had to break out the algebra and calculus books to see what was going on. There are some parts that would be difficult to understand if you were not a math person. Unless you really want a complete mathmatical understanding of the topics, I would not recommend it. It also costs $50.00, which is a lot if it just sits on the shelf. I have not had time to sit down and read it from cover to cover yet, but from the bits I've flipped through, it seemed very interesting.

[Ari]

From what I hear, it seems that the book is really haevy on the theory of decompression.

I will take a look at it tomorrow (thanks to UP, at Barnes & Noble). By the way UP, any comments as to the book itself?;)

I think it might be money well spent and in the worst case might be very serious looking on the shelf. :D

Anyway, I'll have to browse through it and decide on the spot. My guess is that I will end up buying it.

Ari :)

[Uncle Pug]

Ari once bubbled...
By the way UP, any comments as to the book itself?;)

here's the deal.... I'm still workin' on actually getting started reading it... I am a compuphobe.

I took it along on our boat this summer while we were gunkholing in the US San Juan and Canadian Gulf Islands and... well... I was real busy see... watching the anchor chain collect bits of seaweed that floated by...

[Ari]

Good to see you are keeping busy.

From your response I learn that the book is not an easy one to read or comprehend.

I will take a few hours tomorrow morning to go through the book and see if it is something I can use (other than for a paper weight).

I will let you know.

Ari:)

[Ari]

I purchased a copy of the said book at Barnes&Noble.com at 20% discount. It is also availabl at SOME B&N stores (for example, the one in Union Square NYC).

I can relate to everything that was written in response to my question -- the book is really difficult to read and of clear mathematical nature.

Nevertheless, I also find it very informative and rewarding. It is clearly not a technical diving manual, but rather a in depth theoretical handbook.

I find it a good reference.

Ari :)

[sillygrendel]

Mine should arrive today. I'm pretty interested in the physics/physiology of diving. (Math/CS/Biology backround)

I would like to implement a couple of decompression models to get an idea of how things work. The haldanian models seem fairly simple, the RGBM a bit trickier, but not too bad. I'd like to write some software to integrate that in with my dive profiles & look at theoretical tissue loading/bubble formation/growth etc... (I found this neat device that will do depth/temperature at 1 second sampling intervals)

I don't do any decompression diving and won't be getting into that game for a while anyway but... The theory (esp bubble) is fascinating.

I'm hoping it'll give me a better intuitive feeling for the models. Any other book suggestions would be appreciated!

Sigh... Guess I've got too much free time on my hands. No job'll do that! (my fault for not looking)

[Ari]

It does look like you have some free time on your hands. Good for you.

The Wienke book will give you a good overview on most of the stuff you are interested in. You migh want to look at the http://www.abysmal.com/pages/articles.html for some more ideas.

Ari :)