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mwhities
November 1st, 2006, 09:39 PM
I know this is a ladies forum, but my wife and I are pregnant. (First time!) We are going on a cruise Nov 26th through Dec 3rd and one of the stops we are wanting to swim with the dolphins. My wife, Lesa, is wondering if the Dolphins might "smell" or "tell" that she is pregnant and if they might cause any harm to her or the baby inside. I personally don't think so, but she wanted me to ask here on SB. (I brag about all the things I learn on here.)

So if any of you ladies have any advice, suggestoins, or just comments, please post or PM me.

Thanks,

Michael and Lesa

spectrum
November 1st, 2006, 11:30 PM
I just want to say CONGRATULATIONS to both of you. And you thought diving was an adventure. :)

From all I know she should be fine on the surface but I'm not qualified to say that out loud.

Pete

mwhities
November 1st, 2006, 11:41 PM
Thank you very much. Yeah and I also thought diving was expensive. Now I have tWO hobbies. ;)

I don't think (and hope) there won't be a problem. She won't be far along and I will ask the people at the site too. I just wanted to ask here. I know fellow SBers will help out. :)

Thanks,

Michael

archman
November 1st, 2006, 11:48 PM
I believe there is anecdotal evidence that dolphins can *sense* pregnant women. And if they do have that ability (likely sonar), I think I remember hearing that the dolphins actually behave much nicer.

Wasn't there a minor fad 10-15 years ago where late-term pregnant women would hang out in dolphin pens for some sort of therapeutic result? Maybe that was just swimming pools...

Your wife should be fine, Michael.

mwhities
November 1st, 2006, 11:50 PM
Thanks archman,

I'm sure this will put her at ease a little more. Never heard of that fade, but I'll be looking around the 'net a little more as well.

Thank you kindly again.

Michael

do it easy
November 2nd, 2006, 12:45 AM
I was at Dolphins Plus in Key Largo this summer and they talked about pregnant women and dolphins. The guide said that they don't let pregnant women swim with the dolphins for liability reasons, but every once in a while, one will get in and the dolphins can tell right away. The guide said that they can hear the second heart beat and are curious about it (probably because they don't let pregnant women in?).

RonFrank
November 2nd, 2006, 12:51 AM
I know this is a ladies forum, but my wife and I are pregnant. (First time!) We are going on a cruise Nov 26th through Dec 3rd and one of the stops we are wanting to swim with the dolphins. My wife, Lesa, is wondering if the Dolphins might "smell" or "tell" that she is pregnant and if they might cause any harm to her or the baby inside. I personally don't think so, but she wanted me to ask here on SB. (I brag about all the things I learn on here.)

So if any of you ladies have any advice, suggestoins, or just comments, please post or PM me.

Thanks,

Michael and Lesa

First Congradulations!

I've read (somewhere) that pregnant woman should not swim with dolphins, because they can sense the pregnancy, and they may pod around her, steer her away from others, and not allow others to approach. I have no idea if there is any basis for this, it's something I read, and I can not even remember where, so can not comment on the credibility.

I seriously doubt they will let her dive/swim dolphins if she is pregnant, but that is yet another thing I have no certain knowledge of. In any event, be safe. :D

ziongyal
November 2nd, 2006, 01:17 AM
Here's something you might find interesting.....
http://www.oceania.org.au/soundnet/features/wave.html

P.S. CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!

archman
November 2nd, 2006, 02:52 AM
Here is a rather um... interesting website to check out.
http://www.planetpuna.com/Birth&Dolphins/index.htm

Dang, a quick internet search has almost every dolphin encounter on the planet barring pregnant women. I have yet to find an actual case study to explain it. There must be a lawsuit... somewhere.

Ber Rabbit
November 2nd, 2006, 11:11 AM
The daughter of a woman at work went swimming with dolphins a few years ago and didn't know she was pregnant at the time. My co-worker said the dolphins would not leave her daughter alone, they were all around her looking at her belly and "chattering". Her daughter finally got out just to get away from them.
Ber :lilbunny:

cerich
November 2nd, 2006, 11:23 AM
from what I understand the dolphins love to sonar on a pregnant woman, male dolphins however may feel that they don't want a female that they haven't impregnated around "their" pod, thus the possible danger.

Male dolphins can act real funny about the whole "alpha" male thing (like us I suppose), that is why they sometimes try to mount people during these "interactions"

mwhities
November 2nd, 2006, 11:24 AM
So it will be okay or not? I think we are going to error on the side of caution and not do it.

She will only be 7 - 8 weeks pregnant. (I guess I should've stated that earlier.) I believe there will be a heart beat at that time as well, but it will be so small. I guess a dolphin could hear it still.

Thanks again all,

Michael

fairybasslet
November 2nd, 2006, 11:42 AM
YOU and your wife are pregnant? So you're having twins? What a medical miracle. I hope you have a Caesarian. I don't think your pee hole will stretch that far. And your poor baby will have to travel through an extra long birth canal.:D

mislav
November 2nd, 2006, 11:44 AM
So it will be okay or not? I think we are going to error on the side of caution and not do it.

She will only be 7 - 8 weeks pregnant. (I guess I should've stated that earlier.) I believe there will be a heart beat at that time as well, but it will be so small. I guess a dolphin could hear it still.

Thanks again all,

Michael
Congrats to the both of you!

So you're asking: - Is it safe? :) I don't think anyone can give you a definite answer to this question. How does the possibly strong sonar affect the developing fetus? Would they be inspecting her from the distance or bumping her? Would they try to separate her from the rest of your group? Would they even charge at you if you try to protect your wife? No one really knows...

I remember similar experience described in this post on ScubaBoard:

http://www.scubaboard.com/showpost.php?p=2311811&postcount=18

Would I personally do it? Yes, of course. It would be a nice story to tell your kid. Do I personally think it might be dangerous? I believe the risk is minimal, but there still is some risk involved.

mwhities
November 2nd, 2006, 12:56 PM
YOU and your wife are pregnant? So you're having twins? What a medical miracle. I hope you have a Caesarian. I don't think your pee hole will stretch that far. And your poor baby will have to travel through an extra long birth canal.:D

Well, if the old-wise tail (is it?) is true, it's my generation to have twins AND my wife is a twin as well. So, we might h ave twins! :)

Michael

mwhities
November 2nd, 2006, 12:59 PM
mislav,

Thanks for the post. I'm thinking that it maybe alright now, since she will not be so far along.

I was thinking if she was able to go into the pool (or whatever) without getting all the way in, it would be alright. Something waist deep. Granted, it'd suck to not be able to swim with them, but she would still be involved and touching them.

Thanks many times again,

EDIT: Ohh and thanks for the congrats. :)

Michael

fairybasslet
November 2nd, 2006, 01:32 PM
Well, if the old-wise tail (is it?) is true, it's my generation to have twins AND my wife is a twin as well. So, we might h ave twins! :)

Michael
I think you mean "old wives' tale."

Amberjack
November 2nd, 2006, 04:06 PM
This is the first I've heard about dolphins and pregnant women, but a fetus generally does definitely have a heartbeat at 7 - 8 weeks, so if the stuff about the heartbeat is true, keep that in mind.

And - congratulations!

archman
November 2nd, 2006, 06:22 PM
So it will be okay or not?

Heck, your kid may become ambidextrous!


As the advantages of underwater birth became clear, and the therapeutic value of dolphins was demonstrated, the concept of humans birthing underwater with dolphins developed. Since birthing in water is beneficial, and dolphins are able to heal or improve a wide range of medical conditions, it is reasonable to suppose that their presence at water births could be beneficial.

Some 20 years ago, after developing and confirming the benefits of water birth, Igor Tscharkofsy began to birth human babies in the Black Sea with the dolphins. Some of the reported occurances include a mother and a baby playing with the dolphins within 45 minutes of the birth, another instance of a free dolphin escorting a newborn human baby to the surface for its first breath. According to Igor Smirnoff, their research director, water babies develop six months faster over their first two years and development of waking, talking etc. occur earlier. According to Elena Tonetti, who managed the Black Sea birth project for several years, the children are also ambidexterous.
http://www.planetpuna.com/Birth&Dolphins/index.htm

mwhities
November 2nd, 2006, 07:06 PM
I think you mean "old wives' tale."

Quick response, wasn't thinking. :) "old wives"

Thanks,

Michael

mwhities
November 2nd, 2006, 07:08 PM
Argh! So many factors. I guess to be safe, she can wade in until she is waist deep or not at all. I don't want anything to happen to either.

Thanks all,

Michael

scuba41girl
November 2nd, 2006, 11:28 PM
YOU and your wife are pregnant? So you're having twins? What a medical miracle. I hope you have a Caesarian. I don't think your pee hole will stretch that far. And your poor baby will have to travel through an extra long birth canal.:D
I would pay alot of money to see this :D .

scubamanbo
November 3rd, 2006, 11:59 AM
Are you ready to take a chance on a baby?....you can always swim with the dolphins next year....as for diving the answer is equally simple......NO! you can't.

Hemlon
November 3rd, 2006, 12:10 PM
Congrats on your upcoming baby!

mwhities
November 5th, 2006, 05:29 AM
Are you ready to take a chance on a baby?....you can always swim with the dolphins next year....as for diving the answer is equally simple......NO! you can't.

We've decided to not even attempt it. As you stated, there is always next year and we will be somewhere so she can.

Thanks,

Michael

mwhities
November 5th, 2006, 05:30 AM
Congrats on your upcoming baby!

Thank you. It's been crazy. This is a first for both of us! :)

Michael

Hemlon
November 5th, 2006, 10:27 AM
Thank you. It's been crazy. This is a first for both of us! :)

Michael

PM me anytime if you have questions that aren't serious enough to call your doctor's office. I was in labor/delivery for years before my current position.

mwhities
November 5th, 2006, 01:33 PM
PM me anytime if you have questions that aren't serious enough to call your doctor's office. I was in labor/delivery for years before my current position.


Thank you, I really appreciate it!

One quick question: When will this actually hit HOME! (It all still feels unreal or like a dream!)

Michael

Amberjack
November 6th, 2006, 10:44 AM
Uh. That's a tough question. I'm in my fifteenth week right now, and it hasn't it home yet! I'll let you know if/when it does.

scubamanbo
November 6th, 2006, 01:14 PM
a wise choice grasshopper....all the best and good luck

mwhities
November 6th, 2006, 04:34 PM
Like scubamanbo said, there is always next year. :)

Michael

mwhities
November 6th, 2006, 04:36 PM
Uh. That's a tough question. I'm in my fifteenth week right now, and it hasn't it home yet! I'll let you know if/when it does.

Congratz to you!

My wife and I just went on our honey moon to Niagara Falls and Toronto. I noticed your profile says you live there. Maybe we all can meet up there again in 1 year and 9 months. ;) (We are planning to go here again when the baby is 1. :))

Michael

erparamedic
November 6th, 2006, 08:28 PM
I had a personal dolphin experience when I was 8 months pregnant....

Ok... kind of a long story, and I apologize for the length, but this was my amazing dolphin experience...

My husband and I, along with my sister, mom and dad (all divers) were vacationing in Key West, FL. I was stuck snorkeling because I was nearly 8 months pregnant... (for the record... we planned the trip, and I found out 3 weeks later I was pregnant! No diving in KW for me!)

We were at a dive site (wreck), and everyone else was diving, and I snorkeled above them. Between my "crew" and I was a HUGE school of barracuda... I would have to estimate well over 100 cuda. That was cool... and I had a couple of cuda that was hanging close... keeping that constantly perfect distance between me and them... funny how they do that! Suddenly, I felt a "stern" bump to my thigh... definitely got my attention, but didn't "hurt". I turned, but didn't see anything... and then my mind was turning... I was trying to figure out what "hit" me! I continued to snorkel... as I really didn't think it was a cuda. I figured a cuda would just plain bite me, and not bother with "bumping". About 3-4 minutes went by and the same thing happened again! Another stern bump on my thigh... and I turned and again... saw nothing. Well... I figured that I'd head back to the boat, as the current was strong, and swimming was tough, and against the current. As I got back to the boat, I sat on the little platform...you know, the one you stride off of... and as I was sitting there, legs dangling in the water, 3 dolphins came jumping by... so close, I could have straightened my legs and touched them with my feet.... but I didn't touch. I was in such awe, that I immediately jumped back into the water, and freedove with them! It was truly amazing! They were squeeking and clicking and curious... and soon swam off. The experience only lasted about 3 minutes once I "returned to the water" with them.... but it was still 3 minutes of an amazing experience.

When I returned to the boat, the captain mentioned that he'd been captaining for 20 something years, and had never seen dolphins THAT close to the boat... when it was tied off. He said it must be because I was pregnant. I'm convinced that the dolphins are what was "bumping" me.... maybe to warn me about the barracuda (?), or maybe to say, "you're different".... sensing the fetal heartbeat. I'll never know. But what I do know is that they had no interest in the divers that were below on the wreck. They were only interested in me. Cool huh!

Amberjack
November 6th, 2006, 08:55 PM
Congratz to you!

My wife and I just went on our honey moon to Niagara Falls and Toronto. I noticed your profile says you live there. Maybe we all can meet up there again in 1 year and 9 months. ;) (We are planning to go here again when the baby is 1. :))

Michael

Thanks for the congrats! Sure - we can compare sleeplessness and poo, which is what I understand parenting is all about ;)

mels_2
November 6th, 2006, 09:44 PM
pregnancy is a great experience.....wait until you feel the baby move for the first time...it's truely amazing as you get bigger you can actually see your belly shift...I wish both of you congrats and hope you have easy healthy pregnancies/deliveries. Don't worry about the sleepless nights and not so nice diaper changes they go with the territory.......

mwhities
November 9th, 2006, 09:45 AM
Thanks for the congrats! Sure - we can compare sleeplessness and poo, which is what I understand parenting is all about ;)


That will be great. Both of us at the computer reading ScubaBoard! What fun! :P

Can't wait though. :)

Michael

mwhities
November 9th, 2006, 09:47 AM
pregnancy is a great experience.....wait until you feel the baby move for the first time...it's truely amazing as you get bigger you can actually see your belly shift...I wish both of you congrats and hope you have easy healthy pregnancies/deliveries. Don't worry about the sleepless nights and not so nice diaper changes they go with the territory.......

That is what everyone is telling me. My brother-in-law said that he sobbed big time when he first heard the heart beat. I'm nervous about everything. Jeshh.

Thank you for the wishes, I greatly appreciate it.

Michael

mels_2
November 10th, 2006, 11:13 AM
don't be too nervous, relax and enjoy it while you can.....:D :babycrawl

mwhities
November 10th, 2006, 10:14 PM
hehe I'll try not to be so nervous. I'm usually good at taking things in stride. :)

We just bought a new car. Mazda Tribute.... Baby car! (and the wife said I could use it for scuba trips too!)

Michael


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