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O.M.O.H.
January 12th, 2007, 05:48 PM
During the last year I missed good portion of the diving season here in the Northeast US due to the unusually high, for me at least, frequency of “swimmer’s ear” episodes that I had. As a result I was getting a lot of earache, trouble equalizing, liquid in the ears, otitis, etc. My doctor told me that I should look up something called “Doc’s Pro Earplugs” specifically made for scuba divers (there ones made for surface swimmers also). Apparently they are very good in prevention ear problems for scuba divers such as swimmer’s ear, otitis, make it easier to equalize, etc.
Has anyone tried these? I would really appreciate your opinion and experience with these.
Thanks

drew52
January 12th, 2007, 05:53 PM
I used the ones for surfing. Used them once or twice and they were terrible and I decided to just take my chances. Couldn't hear a thing, my ears got wet any way and the noise from the wind and waves was something else. I figured i'd probably loose my hearing if I carried on.

Never dived with any of them so can't help you with the dive ones but my experience of the surf ones is enough to put me off. I guess for the price they may be worth a try but they certainly aren't for me.

PriusDrIVER
January 12th, 2007, 05:56 PM
I believe there may be better methods of dealing with swimmers ear...though you can give the ear plugs a try.

Here is DAN's input on it:
http://www.diversalertnetwork.org/medical/articles/article.asp?articleid=48
http://www.diversalertnetwork.org/medical/articles/article.asp?articleid=49

Tom Winters
January 12th, 2007, 05:56 PM
They're great. Get the fitting kit and then order up a couple of pairs of the ---> red vented plugs. The clear ones are too easy to lose.

scubajas
January 12th, 2007, 06:01 PM
They are worth the $11 bucks .i had trouble equilizing and i tried them glad i did........

PriusDrIVER
January 12th, 2007, 06:11 PM
I have to say, the picture of swimmers ear on Docs web site about made me lose my lunch:

http://www.proplugs.com/scubadiving.shtml

annasea
January 12th, 2007, 06:29 PM
I asked this same question on another scuba forum after seeing an advert for them in Alert Diver. Two of the people that responded actually use them on a regular basis and just love them! Based on this positive feedback, I'll definitely ask my ENT specialist about them when I see him next month. (My right ear is a nightmare to equalize. :()

O.M.O.H.
January 12th, 2007, 07:18 PM
Mod,

Please move this to Diving Medicine. Sorry for placing it here. Still new to the board.

Kayla
January 12th, 2007, 07:21 PM
I use them, and I love them. I had issues for a long time equalizing my ears, and this has pretty much solved that problem! For as inexpensive as they are, its DEFINETLEY worth it.

Diving Doc
January 12th, 2007, 07:25 PM
There is another alternative called the IST Pro ear mask. This has covers for the ears and has proved very popular amongst people who have ear probs at my dive centre

O.M.O.H.
January 12th, 2007, 07:32 PM
First thing first:
Huge thanks to all for their replies!


There is another alternative called the IST Pro ear mask. This has covers for the ears and has proved very popular amongst people who have ear probs at my dive centre
Nice yeah, i wish i knew about it before i got my 100-dollar atomic mask :rofl3:
Anyway, i dive mostly in Long Island and New Jersey so i wear 7mm suit with the hood and soon to be using dry suit exclusively throughout the year. And that pro-ear mask requires a proprietary hood, which is not awailable in dry version.
So Pro-plugs for me i guess. I already got a fitting kit from Leisure pro. It's just 3 blocks from me.

Diving Doc
January 12th, 2007, 07:36 PM
sorry bud, just thought it might be a nice alternative to sticking things in your ears! Hope they work out for you and you get rid of that irratating sticky ear thing

O.M.O.H.
January 12th, 2007, 07:41 PM
sorry bud, just thought it might be a nice alternative to sticking things in your ears! Hope they work out for you and you get rid of that irratating sticky ear thingI am just hoping this year will be more productive for me, in terms of number of dives, than the last.
I gotta try that mask anyway. I will see if anyone has one locally. This way i'll go to the pool and give it a comparative trial as in Pro Plugs Vs. Pro Ear mask. If that happens i will post my thoughts.
Thanks for bringing it up!

WesTexDiver
January 12th, 2007, 07:41 PM
My Mother uses Docs Pro plugs, because changing water temps in her ears seem to give her realy bad Vertigo. make sure you get the "Vented" ones. Cheers...

O.M.O.H.
January 12th, 2007, 07:45 PM
Nice yeah, i wish i knew about it before i got my 100-dollar atomic mask :rofl3:
Anyway, i dive mostly in Long Island and New Jersey so i wear 7mm suit with the hood and soon to be using dry suit exclusively throughout the year. And that pro-ear mask requires a proprietary hood, which is not awailable in dry version.
So Pro-plugs for me i guess. I already got a fitting kit from Leisure pro. It's just 3 blocks from me.
Ohh look i was wrong: http://www.scubatoys.com/store/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=proearhoodist

I love what they say at the end of the product description:
This hood will keep you so warm, the guy on the left is ice diving totally naked other than the mask and hood.... Pretty impressive eh?

:rofl3:

Tom Winters
January 12th, 2007, 07:53 PM
I love what they say at the end of the product description:
Quote:This hood will keep you so warm, the guy on the left is ice diving totally naked other than the mask and hood.... Pretty impressive eh?
:I guess ear shrinkage isn't a problem with that setup.

O.M.O.H.
January 13th, 2007, 01:49 AM
I guess ear shrinkage isn't a problem with that setup. He he nope.

TomP
January 13th, 2007, 10:26 AM
OMOH,
If you go the proplug route i absolutely second the idea of getting the red ones and more than one set. I've lost track of my clear ones too many times.

They're great. Get the fitting kit and then order up a couple of pairs of the ---> red vented plugs. The clear ones are too easy to lose.
I've used the 'Ear Beer' recipe, referenced in the second DAN link (http://www.diversalertnetwork.org/medical/articles/article.asp?articleid=49) posted by PriusDrIVER, with great success both here in Wreck Valley and in the Caribbean as well

O.M.O.H.
January 23rd, 2007, 11:42 AM
Thanks to all for their feedback on ProPlugs!


OMOH,
If you go the proplug route i absolutely second the idea of getting the red ones and more than one set. I've lost track of my clear ones too many times.

I've used the 'Ear Beer' recipe, referenced in the second DAN link (http://www.diversalertnetwork.org/medical/articles/article.asp?articleid=49) posted by PriusDrIVER, with great success both here in Wreck Valley and in the Caribbean as well
I see you are from NJ; do you belong to any dive club?

Benny-c
January 23rd, 2007, 05:46 PM
Simple (& cost effective;) )solution to ear infection problems......

Before entering the water use a little olive oil in the offending ear/s BEFORE they get wet. BTW Ask any ENT specialist, olive oil is non irritant to the outer ear.

This works for me & I had constant problems, even an operation & since I have started using the oil.....no problems.

Try it!!

Benny

RoyN
January 23rd, 2007, 05:54 PM
I used to use them but then after learning to equalized and diving more often then the average diver, I never use them again. Actually I lost it at Point Lobos last Saturday. :)

DeputyDan
January 23rd, 2007, 06:00 PM
I use them and like them - but use them for a different reason than most divers.

I have difficulty with my ears draining after a days diving. So, on a dive vacation after two/three days at 5 per it can become a problem.

Doc's proplugs prevents most of the water build up in my ear and the above does not become an issue.

Flatliner
January 23rd, 2007, 06:12 PM
I know that I am late to this thread but I have to put in my .02... After my first couple of OW dives last year my ears hurt MAJORLY. I posted asking for help and someone recommended Pro-plugs. I have purchased a set, dove them several times, and think they are awesome. Like another poster said, cheap solution if they work and mine work great...although my next set will be red...my LDS didn't have red...

Flatliner
aka Robert

haha49
January 23rd, 2007, 09:28 PM
get the ear drops from the doctor they work alot better then the pills... i have gotten swimers ear every single year around november... i goton so used to it i just pu it in when i feel its starting and it goes away in a day or 2 but 1 advantage i have is i can easly equlize my ears because of swimers ear... i got used to poping my ears when tehy are infected and hurt so the pain would go away that i can do it any time i want when ever i want by just barly moveing my mouth..

the funny thing is alot of people ask me when i dive are my ears bugging me as i can desend faster then most people.. and they dont when i do feel it i just go up 1 ft and equlize them then go down further.. i tried the ear plugs and i didnt like them at all but i dont like ear bud head phones eather..

Glennbo
May 17th, 2007, 05:54 PM
Hi Folks,

I was doing a search online and came on this thread regarding the Docs ProPlugs. I work at Docs and I can answer any questions you all may have regarding the plugs and without breaking forum rules or spamming I can get anyone the plugs directly from here at the warehouse if you cannot find them locally. Check online at www.proplugs.com (http://www.proplugs.com) and to order you can reach me at proplugteam@proplugs.com

Not trying to sell the plugs here just giving anyone a place to get them if their shops locally dont carry them.

Sorry for the lame 1st post - Happy Diving

bane51031
May 17th, 2007, 06:22 PM
I have had ear problems most of my dives, I tried the vinegar and alcohol solution last week for 3 different dives and had no probs. except it was boring with my head tilted to each side for 5 minutes each but, again I had no problems, may try these earplugs though also anyone else try the olive oil? and does it have to be the extravirgin olive oil???

DPP Santa Cruz
September 4th, 2007, 01:47 PM
Doc's ProPlugs are preformed earplugs made out of a plastic called Kraton. The vented (fenestrated) Proplugs are the design that is recommended for surfers and divers alike, they come in fire engine red and clear, and also with a leash connecting the two plugs or without a leash. The non-fenestrated proplugs are non vented and are ideal for surface swimming and bathing.

There are eight different premolded sizes; guaranteed to fit 95% of the population. The one catch to get the best out of your 8-10 $ is to make sure you get fitted (I cannot stress this enough) as sizes range from Tiny to XX-Large.

The vented hole design allows for safe and easier equalization. Pressure change is made less abrupt as surface tension is created when water tries to pass through the vent hole. The plugs prevent water from flushing in and out of the ear canal so as to cut down on ear infections.

Doc's Proplugs continues to support and provide safety to the U.S. Freediving Team, the Performance Freediving Team, and individual diving record breakers like Tanya Streeter, and Brett LeMaster.

jupitermermaid
November 20th, 2007, 07:40 PM
First thing first:
Huge thanks to all for their replies!


Nice yeah, i wish i knew about it before i got my 100-dollar atomic mask :rofl3:
Anyway, i dive mostly in Long Island and New Jersey so i wear 7mm suit with the hood and soon to be using dry suit exclusively throughout the year. And that pro-ear mask requires a proprietary hood, which is not awailable in dry version.
So Pro-plugs for me i guess. I already got a fitting kit from Leisure pro. It's just 3 blocks from me.

I was able to get my Ear Pro mask for $48.88, a small price to pay for being allowed to dive without expensive ENT visits to correct infections after the dives. As for hoods, you can cut holes in a regular hood to accomodate the suction cups of the mask.

I recently obtained a pair of Doc's Pro Plugs to use in addition to the Pro Ear mask to double protect my ears (in case of ear flooding or other problems that we know can always occur). Will keep you up to date as to how the two work together. My first tryout will be tomorrow.

JohnnyH
November 22nd, 2007, 03:08 AM
For what it's worth, a few of my co-workers swear by them. We do five 40 minute dives a day, 23' max, and they've done wonders for them.

John

jupitermermaid
November 22nd, 2007, 08:54 AM
I have to say, the picture of swimmers ear on Docs web site about made me lose my lunch:

Doc's Proplugs: The Doctor's Choice for Ear Protection (http://www.proplugs.com/scubadiving.shtml)

Hopefully, it also made you appreciate what some people suffer with their ear problems, and their desire to search for ways to make diving possible while preventing their ears from looking like this.

BTW, I went for a two tank dive yesterday using the Doc's proplugs for the first time along with my "dork" mask, and I couldn't even tell I had anything in my ears. They were extremely comfortable and I felt very confident about the ability to keep my ears safe from bacteria in the water. Equalizing my ears was a breeze. I even kept them in on the boat during the SI because the vented plugs don't block out sound, so my ears also were kept protected from the salty wind leaving deposits in my ears. My ears are in perfect condition today, and I'm looking forward to diving again tomorrow and Sat.

DPP Santa Cruz
February 25th, 2008, 05:17 PM
Hi everyone;

I wanted to share some footage of the Proplugs in action. We just received some files from our people in Italy and it has got me bouncing off the walls! The footage was shot underwater in the island of Sassari, Italy by a medical staff at one of their hospitals. The study was also documented by a handful of doctors.

vid: www.proplugs.com/media/plugsinaction.mpg
document: www.proplugs.com/media/SIMSICongress2006.doc

It is true, the proplugs do work to help prevent otitis, exostosis, and ruptured ear drums, as well as making equalization easier.

For maximum protection you could use the whambam combo of pro-ear2000 + Doc's Proplugs like Jupitermermaid suggested (btw thanks for the trial eval!).

Cheers;

jupitermermaid
February 25th, 2008, 07:03 PM
As an update, I've been on 43 dives since I started using Doc's Proplugs in late Nov. (I know, I know....I've been called a dive h* by many of my friends.....lol. They have never failed me. My pro ear 2000 mask strap busted while on a dive in Jan., and I was so thankful I had the proplugs as a backup for that particular dive. Since then, I've bought a "regular" mask that I use when just doing a two-tank dive on a weekend with the proplugs and dive confidently without the proear on a regular basis. I use both when I'm doing 8 or more dives a weekend or on continuous daily diving. I have not had a problem with my ears since I started using the proear 2000, the combination of the proear and Doc's proplug's, or the proplugs on their own. My ENT will have to look at my chart to refresh his memory of me the next time I visit him.....lol

SCheckman
February 25th, 2008, 07:13 PM
I picked up a pair at last year's Beneath the Sea and tried them out this past summer. I lost one on the first dive! Maybe I didn't put it on right but now I only have one so I stopped using it.

jupitermermaid
February 25th, 2008, 07:32 PM
That's what I liked about having the "double protection" of the proear with the proplugs....if one fell out the cup held it until I surfaced. It takes practice to get them in properly. I would suggest getting another pair (if you're interested....they're cheap enough) and put them in and wear them for several minutes around the house, then remove them, just for practice of inserting and removal of them. Another cause of loss could be that you had the wrong size. There are eight different sizes, and if yours were too small or too large they wouldn't fit snug enough to stay in place.

realdiver7
February 25th, 2008, 08:06 PM
I like my Doc's Pro Plugs, and they really help with swimmer's ear issues/vertigo/warmth, etc. Wish I would have bought the red ones though because it's hard to keep up with the clear ones between dives and in the water. Also, they pop out of my ears frequently when equalizing, doing a back roll from a boat, or moving my jaw. That may be because I'm not wearing the correct size.

The benefits outweight the negatives in my opinion, especially with multiple dives over one or more days, so I recommend them.

jupitermermaid
February 25th, 2008, 09:54 PM
Yes, it's critical to have the correct size. My first pair were too small, and when I ordered the next size larger I had less problems with them dislodging from my ear. I have the red ones and really like the way they fit, feel, and work to keep my ears dry, equalized, and free of foreign bacteria that can create havoc with my ears.

SCheckman
February 26th, 2008, 01:54 PM
Thanks for the advice. Maybe I'll try another pair.

jupitermermaid
February 26th, 2008, 02:06 PM
When you go in the shop, have one of the salespeople help you with the sizing chart to determine the right fit for you. It's easier to have someone else look head on. Good luck and happy diving! (By the way, I love your dive art! I'm going to have to order a tee shirt.)

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