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tinman
February 13th, 2003, 03:21 PM
Does anyone use crab claws instead of brass bolt snaps for gear attachment. Pros and cons?

What is it? Look at bottom of this list of accessories
http://www.cetaceacorp.com/scuba/action/gearclips.html

MechDiver
February 13th, 2003, 03:23 PM
I tried them at one time but saw no benefit. They seem to be harder to find in SS and, for me, harder to use for stages.

MD

Scubaroo
February 13th, 2003, 03:28 PM
I've used one on a loaner wreck reel - it was brass like the one pictured. It was used on the first tie-off on the outside of the wreck. Did it's job.

lucid
February 13th, 2003, 03:29 PM
I had them until my DIRf instructor cut them off and threw them in the trash. =]

tinman
February 13th, 2003, 03:54 PM
lucid once bubbled...
I had them until my DIRf instructor cut them off and threw them in the trash. =]
Did he give you a reason? ...I suppose there is the risk of accidental release but would be interested in a definitive reason. At first glance, I thought it might be easier to open to get gear off after a winter dive and all the gear has frozen on the boltsnaps (yes I could cut it off, but I don't want to!).

lucid
February 13th, 2003, 04:21 PM
He looked at it and said it was bullsh_t and cut it off. I replaced it with a standard clip. The GUE guys like uniformed equipment. For several reasons. The clips I had where not the standard type so I replaced them. You wouldn't want a buddy fumbling with the clips in an emergency. He also said they could snag a line.

Bob3
February 13th, 2003, 04:50 PM
Got one on one of my goodie bags that I only use in warm water, the swivel made mischief for me when wearing heavy gloves in cold water. Maybe if they came in a bigger size.

... cut it off.
Anybody cutting up MY dive gear would have an immediate religious experience!!

Cave Diver
February 13th, 2003, 09:12 PM
tinman once bubbled...
Does anyone use crab claws instead of brass bolt snaps for gear attachment. Pros and cons?

What is it? Look at bottom of this list of accessories
http://www.cetaceacorp.com/scuba/action/gearclips.html

I used one for a brief period of time. I can tell you there are numerous cons, and virtually no pros.

1) By design, they are more difficult to manipulate, because the "trigger" rolls rather than sliding. It is very easy for your finger to slip off before opening it wide enough to release it.

2) The two halves "scissor" together, making it very easy for a line to get trapped in it.

3) Because the two halves scissor together, it is easy for them to seperate which can affect the ability to open them quickly or close them properly.

4) The sizes they are readily available in are rather small to be really useful.

Hope that helps.

Amphibious
February 13th, 2003, 09:25 PM
I use one my "stringer" for Spearfishing. Much faster then a piston-snap when I want to clip it off to my float.

I'm with Bob3. anyone screwing with my equipment will get a chance to swim home.

Willer

tinman
February 14th, 2003, 09:13 AM
Tx guys. Always on the lookout for a better mousetrap. I'll keep lookin'...

Cave Diver
February 14th, 2003, 01:29 PM
tinman once bubbled...
Tx guys. Always on the lookout for a better mousetrap. I'll keep lookin'...

I went down that road myself, so I know where you're coming from. I found it's hard to beat a good boltsnap. Double enders are pretty nifty also, and Dive Rite now has a swivelling double ender. Havent used one yet, but I like the idea...

If/when I ever get around to using one, I'll letcha know what I think of it.

Lawrence Debono
February 16th, 2003, 10:23 PM
:snorkel: I got some of those swiveling double ended snaps. They solved my stage rigging problem:). At least now I don't have to fight for 10 minutes until I secure my side mounts.

Mind you, I would prefer if they were a bit larger. :D

I heard a number of stories about suicide clips, etc. I cannot say I witnessed any.

Cheers

Lawrence

Cave Diver
February 16th, 2003, 11:39 PM
Lawrence Debono once bubbled...
:snorkel: I got some of those swiveling double ended snaps. They solved my stage rigging problem:). At least now I don't have to fight for 10 minutes until I secure my side mounts.

Mind you, I would prefer if they were a bit larger. :D

How large are they? Can you provide a pic against a ruler or something for comparison? I looked at them in the catalog, but they dont give dimensions. But if they are actual size as the photo they would be friggin huge!

Inquiring minds wanna know...

scubaredneck
February 27th, 2003, 02:53 PM
Bob3 wrote: Anybody cutting up MY dive gear would have an immediate religious experience!!
I hear ya, bob. I see someone coming towards my gear with a knife or snips, they'd better bring their lunch. :shiner:

:rofL:

scuubaadoo
March 4th, 2003, 08:44 PM
... They are not for every application, but I like them. Not that bad to open, very secure. I usually take a file to them to make them a little smoother where the claws come together.

H2O lover
March 11th, 2003, 11:22 PM
lucid once bubbled...
I had them until my DIRf instructor cut them off and threw them in the trash. =]


:doctor:
Any instructor that cut something off my gear would be sleeping w/ the fish. I've seen way to many "know it all" instructors in my 20 yrs of diving.
I have and use the crab claw clip they work great and they won't catch a line like other clips.

Dive safe
john

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