Locations/maps/coordinates

[frogxman]

Following the recent poll I created this thread. Let's see how it will go. It's usefulness can be proved by posting the places you know about . The dive sites for any levels of divers are very welcome. The thread will by 'sticky' to the top and I will remove this part later.

This thread is intended for posting coordinates, maps, directions and descriptions of the dive sites around Ontario. It can be used as an online database. While posting to this thread please provide sufficient information for locating a dive spot as well as the description of the conditions, required equipment and an experience level. Please do not open discussions in this thread. If you want to correct the information in the particular post send a private message to the author.
Disclaimer: This thread is for general information only. Using this information is under reponsibility of the diver.

[frogxman]

Name: J.C.Morrison wreck
Description:Paddle wheel boat
Level: Beginner
Depth: 26-30'
Location: Barrie
Directions: Attached
Maps Attached

Very easy, relaxing shore dive. Not much left from the boat except ribs below the original water line, paddle wheel parts and some constructions. Everything covered with zebra mussels. There is a lot of silt on the bottom, so good buoyancy control and proper fin kicks are required. In winter this site is good for ice diving. In summer months it makes sense to have surface flotation device as there are many fishing boats around the wreck.

Additional information can be found at:


Morrison macro (http://community.webshots.com/album/46967655lxwOpw) (Thanks Vlada)

Additional Info (http://www.geocities.com/marvintpaa/morrison.html) (Thanks Marvintpa)

http://www.scubaq.ca/ontarioscubadiving/morrison.htm

[frogxman]

Location: Tobermory, Bruce Peninsula

I could not add anything to the information from the following site. If anybody have the GPS coordinates of the wrecks you are more than welcome to post them here.

Tobermory wrecks (http://www3.sympatico.ca/gary.nancy/shipwrecks/shipwrecks.html)

[frogxman]

Location: Kingston

The following site contains veru thorough description of Kingston wrecks and, what is very important, the GPS coordinates of 24 wrecks. Few of them are accessible from the shore.

Kingston wrecks (http://www.sharkys-scuba-supply.com/local-diving-sites.html)

If you don't mind camping it is possible in Lake Ontario Park which is on King str.
Lake Ontario Park (http://www.city.kingston.on.ca/img/maps/parks/lakeont_park.gif)
Boat launch can be done in the same park or closeby in Portsmouth Olympic Harbour marina. Air fills can be done in the same marina.

[ScoobieDooo]

Very nice Frogxman...

[cobaltbabe]

This is a great idea my friend,
Once I get some dives under my belt, I hope to have some input into this thread. In the meantime I will take notes and try a couple out. :)

[Mikiko]

Looks great and will help lots of people



http://www.leftmind.net/~adb/ontdive/shoredive.html


Hope this one works :)

[Jimmy B]

http://northerntechdiver.com/divelocations.php

Jimmy B back from the USA

[Rooster1]

St.Clair River (http://www.midwestconnection.com/diving/diving_st_clair_north.htm)

[Butch103]

Directions.....Marmora is on Hwy #7 east of Peterborough (about 50 mins), Go north at the stoplights. Take first left at the bottom of the hill, straight thru the stop sign and turn right at bottom of the grade. The medical centre is on the right. (blue house like place). Park at the designated area. Enter the water of the "ramp". After you enter follow the water pipe about 1/2 way cross the river and head south. After a bit head west and the current will bring you back to your starting point.

[Flummox]

A few links in here...

http://www.scubaboard.com/t17756/s.html

[avalanchediver]

Some pics and info on some of the wresck in the Port Huron/Sarnia area.

www.avalanchediver.com

[avalanchediver]

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[frogxman]

Just pulled out the links I found following the link Flummox posted.
Here they are. The Ghost Ships is really good - a lot of coordinates.

http://www.ghost-ships.org/divedb.asp

http://www.neptunescove.org/cgi-bin/wrecks.pl?area=SWLH

[wetvet]

Im hoping to dive the Wexford, about 6 miles off of Bayfield in Lake Huron....am gonna take my GPS, and will post co ordinates when I get em.


Wetvet

[Axeman]

Anyone ever think of putting this in an online Data Base?

It is kinda cluttered here and can get out of control with messages mixed in....

A DB would really be cool I think.

If anyone is interested I could write it.

I started one on my site but I am still working on integrating stuff like maps and more details.

[Doppler]

Wreck of the 220 foot steel freighter, Daryaw, St. Lawrence River very close to town of Brockville. Boat Dive. Variable current. Wreck sits upside down bow into the current at a depth of 90 ffw. Penetration in stern cabins moderate. Penetration in Forepeak advanced.

Wreck is marked with white jugs. Line attached to rudder. Much easier dive to approach at depth from upstream.

GPS

44 31.590 N
75 45.814W

[taz22]

Caution should be used when diving this wreck. Not a dive for a beginner AOW diver.

Doppler once bubbled...
Wreck of the 220 foot steel freighter, Daryaw, St. Lawrence River very close to town of Brockville. Boat Dive. Variable current. Wreck sits upside down bow into the current at a depth of 90 ffw. Penetration in stern cabins moderate. Penetration in Forepeak advanced.

Wreck is marked with white jugs. Line attached to rudder. Much easier dive to approach at depth from upstream.

GPS

44 31.590 N
75 45.814W

[divedude]

Here's a couple of Kingston ones
2. Douglas N 44'01.018 W 76'36.290
4. Wolfe Islander N 44'13.544 W 76'25.043
5. Effie Mae N 44'09.785 W 76'34.092
6. Comet N 44'08.328 W 76'35.071
7. Marsh N 44'07.610 W 76'36.168
8. Munson N 44'12.533 W 76'36.458
9. K.P.H. N 44'12.448 W 76'31.485
10. Jodrey “Deep” N 44'19 .853 W 75'56.053
11. Jamieson N 44' 08.865 W 76'47.625
12. Glendora N 44' 08.558 W 76'38.027
13. Maple Glen N 44'08.689 W 76' 37.170
14. Sheboygan N 44'04.558 W 76'44.068
15. Cornwall N 44' 08.267 W 76' 37.144
16. Queen Mary N 44'08.696 W 76'36.921
17. Titanic N 44'08.597 W 76'37.286
18. Johnson N 44'07.490 W 76'33.480
20. Horace Taber N 44'10.025 W 76'32.255
21. Lusitania N 44'08.695 W 76'36.915
22. Davie N 44'06.815 W 76'34.804
23. R.H. Rae N 43'53.035 W76'50.515
25. Lille Parsons N 44'33.378 W75'43.151
26. Terry’s Tug N 44'12.868 W76'38.147
30. Stacked Hulls N 44'12.563 W76'31.485
31. Annie Falconer N 43'57.860 W76'48.100
35. Manola N 43'54.221 W76'46.124
36. Londonderry” Deep” N 44'08.162 W76'49.615
38. Frontenac N 44'01.123 W76'36.121

[Tom R]

Just a correction from Divedudes numbers

Douglas N 44'01.018 W 76'36.290
Frontenac N 44'01.123 W76'36.121

How about the John E Hall? :wacko:



Tom

[divedude]

Thanks Tom
I guess I inverted the 01
poor guys would have spent a long time trying to find them.

[gadget]

This is a great thread and very timely considering a new website dedicated to this subject is now online and just opened at

www.geodiving.com (http://www.geodiving.com)

The database is working and also ties into a mapping feature which is quite handy.

It also works with shore dive locations, rallying points etc, etc...Very cool!!!

Check it out.:)

[Groundhog246]

gadget once bubbled...
This is a great thread and very timely considering a new website dedicated to this subject is now online and just opened at

www.geodiving.com (http://www.geodiving.com)

The database is working and also ties into a mapping feature which is quite handy.

I had a look. It only gives degrees and minutes no seconds or 10ths of minutes (unless I'm doing something wrong). That's only going to put you within a mile of the wreck. Leaves a lot of territory to explore.
Aside from that, great concept.
On the navigation end, it's important to note that 44 10" 30' is NOT the same position as 44 10.30" there are 60 seconds in a minute (it would actually be the same as 44 10.50"). Newer charts use degrees, minutes, 10ths of minutes (or 100ths), older charts used degrees minutes seconds, most GPS can be programmed to use either.

[Groundhog246]

IceFrog once bubbled...
Hi Groundhog246..

As per your comment, Changes have been made on the database so that it shows all digits of the Coordinates. It was designed so that only registered users would see the whole coordinates but to reduce confusion that's been changed.

I wondered if that might be the case. I note that only registered users can see the complete lat/long would have sufficed and encouraged those such as me to register (I probably will anyway).

Currently the system only supports entries in decimal notation, but support will be shortly added to support degrees minutes seconds and decimal variations of such.


I can work in either. Perhaps an area than does conversions and keep it all in the same (decimal) notation, rather than mixing types.

[divedude]

A lot of the numbers on the geodiving site are wrong, in fact all the Kingston area ones are. So be careful. The proper numbers for Kingston are the ones I posted early.

[Doppler]

Great Work IceFrog.

I know the book you mean -- the one with "some dubious" numbers... watch the depth ratings given in it too.

Thanks for the hard work

[Charlie99]

Rudy Benner maintains a site with contact info for divers around the Timmins, Ontario area. Scroll down a bit and there is a listing of various lakes in the area, along with location, overall ratings, depth, and facilities info.

http://www.personainternet.com/~benner/

[DrownedRat]

Nice work Frogxman, what a gold mine of info!!

[scuba_junkie]

Heres a good reference for the wrecks in the great lakes region...
Michigan Shipwrecks Site (http://www.michiganshipwrecks.com)

Dive safe!
:snorkel:

[gadget]

If you guys like you can register at www.geodiving.com and start adding any numbers you like.

Icefrog has been doing a great job getting the skeleton up and he needs more people involved to help flesh out the bones.

Geodiving GPS Database (http://www.geodiving.com)

[D M I]

Picton Wrecks

[simcoediver]

I will be diving several wrecks in the Penetanguishene area and was wondering if anyone has dove on the Wawinet. Is it a worthwhile shallow dive of interest?Is it easy to find?I have the coordinates 44 49 30 / 079 05 54 from a book that i will not name,is this accurate?Perhaps someone has more accurate coordinates to share?

[deep_ocean]

GPS coordinates are great but... what if you don't have a GPS device?

I think for some of us ordinary folks :) the easiest way would be to have "regular" directions (i.e. JCMorrison directions at the beginning of the thread).

Thanks very much for putting this together.

Great idea.

safe diving.

deep_ocean

[divedude]

deep_ocean once bubbled...
GPS coordinates are great but... what if you don't have a GPS device?

I think for some of us ordinary folks :) the easiest way would be to have "regular" directions (i.e. JCMorrison directions at the beginning of the thread).



It's kind of hard to give "regular"directions to a spot on a huge lake were there are no signs
Like: go 4 miles due south until you see the big brown fish turn left until you see the sailboat then go right 1 mile and there's the wreck. GPS and sonar is the only way......Oh ya you need a boat too. :D

[advtech]

Following the recent poll I created this thread. Let's see how it will go. It's usefulness can be proved by posting the places you know about . The dive sites for any levels of divers are very welcome. The thread will by 'sticky' to the top and I will remove this part later.

This thread is intended for posting coordinates, maps, directions and descriptions of the dive sites around Ontario. It can be used as an online database. While posting to this thread please provide sufficient information for locating a dive spot as well as the description of the conditions, required equipment and an experience level. Please do not open discussions in this thread. If you want to correct the information in the particular post send a private message to the author.
Disclaimer: This thread is for general information only. Using this information is under reponsibility of the diver.


Following is a link to the Niagara Divers' "Lake Erie Mooring Project Page-Eastern Basin". It has the numbers for about 25-30 wrecks with write ups on some. Good site to check before you go out as it lists the current status of the moorings. It also has links to the SOS mooring project and the "Coast Guards Notice to Shipping" which updates all the mooring buoys on the lakes as they go back out in the spring.

http://www.vaxxine.com/advtech/moor/framesource.htm

The main NDA page also has links to a number of write ups on wrecks through out the Province. Ian

[StingRob]

I'm working on my site which will have most of the Ontario shipwrecks with info, pics, brief history and how to get there etc.
By the end of this summer should be 80% complete.


http://robertkuzel.tripod.com/thefascinatingunderworld/id3.html

Safe diving

[StingRob]

I forgot to mention... please give me few weeks for the update, I'm doing one location every two days or so. GPS location is included in the description of each dive site.

http://robertkuzel.tripod.com/thefascinatingunderworld/id3.html

[gadget]

I forgot to mention... please give me few weeks for the update, I'm doing one location every two days or so. GPS location is included in the description of each dive site.

http://robertkuzel.tripod.com/thefascinatingunderworld/id3.html

Why not just use www.geodiving.com it's really cool

[*Love*]

Does anyone have GSP co-ordinates for Cedarhill Park In Wiarton?

[Juggernaut]

I have just been visiting this geodiving site with all the GPS numbers.

I really like the concept and the page is very well put together except for a few points.

1. (now this may be my fault) When I enter the numbers of a few wrecks that I do know the location of, they turn out to be very far off. Are all the locations wrong?

2. In the description there is no information as to the area the wrecks are located in, ie. nearest city, island, etc. I need to know a more specific location other than if it is in a river or a lake in Ontario.

3. (Again this may be my fault) But I cant seem to find anywhere what format the GPS numbers are given in. Each description should list the format so I can enter it properly in my GPS.

Does anyone know of any listings that are more acurate?

Thanks

[IceFrog]

I have just been visiting this geodiving site with all the GPS numbers.

I really like the concept and the page is very well put together except for a few points.

1. (now this may be my fault) When I enter the numbers of a few wrecks that I do know the location of, they turn out to be very far off. Are all the locations wrong?

2. In the description there is no information as to the area the wrecks are located in, ie. nearest city, island, etc. I need to know a more specific location other than if it is in a river or a lake in Ontario.

3. (Again this may be my fault) But I cant seem to find anywhere what format the GPS numbers are given in. Each description should list the format so I can enter it properly in my GPS.

Does anyone know of any listings that are more acurate?

Thanks

Juggernaut,

Thank you for the comments. As per your questions:

1. All coordinates are provided through various sources and comments/corrections are available for each location (postable by registered users). You may also be using the wrong format in your GPS (see point 3). If you are in fact using the wrong format, the coordinates would be WAY OFF and would seem incorrect. Which ones did you check. I have a personal library of coordinates that I have personally visited.

2. There actually is a field to put nearest city in. As people post locations they have the option to fill this infomation in. If they do not, we usually go through and manually look on a map to determine. We are however adding a new field which will be "body of water" that will provide info on which lake, river, bay etc. the dive is in.

3. All coordinates are listed in WGS 84 in 3 different formats (by user choice - you need to register and change your profile to change the formats). You can get pure decimal notation, Degree decimal format, or degrees minutes and seconds (this infomation is in the FAQs (http://www.geodiving.com/FAQs.asp) on why the numbers look funny). The database stores EACH coordinate in a standard format and converts the format to your requirements (to any of the above 3) and also provides the Universal Address from NAC Geographics. See www.nacgeo.com (http://www.nacgeo.com/nacsite/) for more information on this.

I hope you find the site useful and that my responses addressed any concerns you have on the data we provide. We look forward to any additional comments you or anyone else may have.

Regards,

[Submerged 2 Deep]

1. All coordinates are provided through various sources and comments/corrections are available for each location (postable by registered users). You may also be using the wrong format in your GPS (see point 3). If you are in fact using the wrong format, the coordinates would be WAY OFF and would seem incorrect. Which ones did you check. I have a personal library of coordinates that I have personally visited.


I have personaly visited a number of these locations just from using the coordinates listed on the site. We took a friend's boat out late last year and were pretty close to all of the sites we dove. (I'll have to check out my dive log to confirm which they were). The GPS coordinates listed got us to within about 30 feet of the site (pretty good in my opinion) as we got to see each wreck.

Juggernaut: On your comment on the nearest city, there is a mapping feature in the bottom left of the screen that will show you the site on a map.

I personaly have found the GeoDiving.com web site quite interesting. I had no idea that this technology could be used this way to help us divers. Kudos to IceFrog for bringing this to the diving community.

[Groundhog246]

If I recall correctly it's set up in degrees, minutes, tenths of minutes (ie 44 34.50) as opposed to degrees minutes seconds (44 34 30) (btw, both these are the same position). Older charts used the latter, current CHS charts (if they've been updated, most metric charts have been) use the first. I've been led astray by not looking closely enough at a new chart.

I used the Lat/Long from the site to successfully find and dive the Marquette & the Lottie Wolf last season.

[Juggernaut]

Overall I really like Geodiving I think it is a great idea and very well layed out. I am glad that Ice Frog has decided to add a "body of water" heading.

Using the map icon is ok, once you are on a specific wrecks page. Knowing what body of water the ship is in before selecting it will be much more easy and quicker.

The one wreck in particular that I think may be located wrong is the Carolina Rose. Using the coordinates from Geodiving "N45 14.535 W081 34.572" it is located firmly on shore.

The same thing happens with the Morrisson in Barrie using Geodivings numbers "N44 22.747 W079041.391" again planted firmly on shore.

If anyone can see what I am possibly doing wrong or if those coordinates are in fact incorrect please let me know.

Thanks

[Juggernaut]

I also found the same with the Niagara II
"N45 15.039 W081 36.179"

On shore next to the Carolina Rose.

[IceFrog]

Overall I really like Geodiving I think it is a great idea and very well layed out. I am glad that Ice Frog has decided to add a "body of water" heading.

Using the map icon is ok, once you are on a specific wrecks page. Knowing what body of water the ship is in before selecting it will be much more easy and quicker.

The one wreck in particular that I think may be located wrong is the Carolina Rose. Using the coordinates from Geodiving "N45 14.535 W081 34.572" it is located firmly on shore.

The same thing happens with the Morrisson in Barrie using Geodivings numbers "N44 22.747 W079041.391" again planted firmly on shore.

If anyone can see what I am possibly doing wrong or if those coordinates are in fact incorrect please let me know.

Thanks

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the comments and suggestions.

I can't comment on the Caroline Rose, but the J.C. morrison has a correction posted for the actual site. On the Rose however, I looked at Mapquest's map, and it shows clearly that it's about 200 metres into Driftwood Cove. I will compare it on other maps that I have at my disposal and also will query my colleagues on the correct coordinates for the site and compare with what's posted (unless any of you have current coordinates that you're willing to post)

Many thanks.

Regards,

[Juggernaut]

I must be doing something wrong then.

On the screen of my GPS it shows the Carolina Rose on shore a long way from the water.

"N45 14.535 W081 34.572"

what is this set up? degrees, minutes, seconds or degrees, minutes, tenths of minutes

Also has anyone verified the Niagara II location?
"N45 15.039 W081 36.179"
This also comes up on shore on my GPS screen.

Help!!?

[Groundhog246]

"N45 14.535 W081 34.572"

what is this set up? degrees, minutes, seconds or degrees, minutes, tenths of minutes

Using the format above, it would be degree's, minutes, tenths. Have you tried taking a reading from your GPS and plotting on a chart?

[simcoediver]

Your numbers for the Carol Rose are right on, So I can only assume that the problem lies in your GPS setup. First off you do have WAAS right? Because you could be way off if you don,t. Next you need to go into setup mode in your GPS, then go into coord system or coord setup, then click on primary mode,it will ask if you want LAT/LONG or a whole bunch of others ,stay with LAT/LONG...now tell it you want ..........DEG/MIN MMM . Now you should be set up correctly to hit any wreck bang on if the given numbers are correct for that wreck location. I have never had any problems finding wrecks with my trusty little Magellan Sportrack.Hope this helps!

[Groundhog246]

You not only need lat/long, deg min.mmm, you need to be set to the correct horiz datum. For Canadian charts its mostly nad27 or nad83. For US (NOAA) charts it's nad83 (http://nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/hsd/specs/CHAPTER2.pdf). WAAS makes a difference, but generally rather small. I use an older Magellan without WAAS and have had no large errors.

To those having trouble, I don't know the Carol Rose, but I used the Geodiving postions to locate and dive the Marquette and the Lottie Wolfe last year. The position for both was right on. On my Magellan, it only has 2 decimal places so I had to round the last number, for example W081 34.572 would be entered as W 081 34.57

[simcoediver]

Yes I forgot to mention that,my GPS is also set for nad83

[Juggernaut]

Does anyone have the GPS coordinates for these two wrecks.
We have spent some time looking and I know we are close but have not found them yet.

The first one is the "Wawinet"? located near Honey Harbour.

The other is the "Paycheck", I used to have the GPS Coordinates for this one but I erased them by accident.
It is located near Oro Station.

Any info at all on these two wrecks would be very helpful.

Thanks

[simcoediver]

Papas Paycheque is at--N44.27.761--W79.28.851 The Wawinet is supposed to be --N44.49.300--W79.05.540 But I am not sure about this because I havent dove it yet. If you dive it and find it can you let me know if its correct or relay to me the correct coords ..

[Juggernaut]

Thanks.

The numbers for Papa's Paycheck look to be dead on.

However when I use the numbers for the Wawinet they appear to put it just outside of Coopers Falls, a long way away from the water.

Could you please check those numbers again for me. Or could it be in the format?

[simcoediver]

Try this,,,-N44.49.300--W80.05.540 does this work? my guess it was just off one number .According to the info I have it is just south of Beausoleil Island in 25 ft of water.Let me know if this looks right when you compare the new coords with your map.

[Juggernaut]

Getting closer.

Now it shows up on the mainland close to Christian Island.

Could it be N 44 49.300 W 79 50.540 ?? This puts it really close to where we were searching.

[Juggernaut]

As for Papas Paycheck, could you tell me something about this wreck? Have you dove it before?

Thanks

[IceFrog]

Try this,,,-N44.49.300--W80.05.540 does this work? my guess it was just off one number .According to the info I have it is just south of Beausoleil Island in 25 ft of water.Let me know if this looks right when you compare the new coords with your map.

The first coordinate actually looks right. It puts the wreck just south of Beausoleil Island. The second coordinate however will need to be between W79 54.600 and W79 48.000 (Min Dec Format) (which unfortunately is almost 9km).. I've tried a bunch of permutations of the second coordinate (mixing decimals and changing formats and haven't found anything close with the two sets of coordinates that were provided above.)

Now W79.50.540 could work (as someone mentioned earlier)... That actually puts it right in line with the island and roughly the expected location.

Regards,

[simcoediver]

Heres some info on Papas Paycheque .go to www.gregsdivepage.net and click on Lake Simcoe.

[simcoediver]

Icefrog, can Loran coordinates be calculated into GPS coordinates?The Loran numbers for the Wawinette are 29501.9 / 48970.7 .

[IceFrog]

Icefrog, can Loran coordinates be calculated into GPS coordinates?The Loran numbers for the Wawinette are 29501.9 / 48970.7 .

Converting Loran to GPS is definaitely not a perfect science.. If you know all of the information, you can get within a few (i.e. 30) metres of the exact GPS coordinate. More informatio can be found here: http://www.loran.org/Coordinates.htm

I fed the LORAN into a converter and came up with N 44.79677 and W 079.86089 (that's N 44 47 48.4 and W 079 51 39.2).

I can't say whether this is right or not.

Regards,

[simcoediver]

Thats close to the suggestion then that it is N.44.49.300 W.79.50.540,,and not 05. I will use this coord and dive it ,see if its there, sometime in the next few weeks I will post the results. Perhaps Juggernaut ,you will do the same if you find it before me.Thanks

[mizzy]

Hi, I dove Papas Paycheck on the weekend. After countless dives on the J.C. Morrinson, we agreed that this was a much more interesting wreck. The wreck is sitting upright in 30 feet with only a relitavily thin layer of mussles. A dive flag is a must due to boat traffic. Also a marker has been placed on the location. Thanks Simcoediver for the coordinates, do you have any more locations for Lake Simcoe or Lake Couchiching?

[Juggernaut]

Hi, I dove Papas Paycheck on the weekend. After countless dives on the J.C. Morrinson, we agreed that this was a much more interesting wreck. The wreck is sitting upright in 30 feet with only a relitavily thin layer of mussles. A dive flag is a must due to boat traffic. Also a marker has been placed on the location. Thanks Simcoediver for the coordinates, do you have any more locations for Lake Simcoe or Lake Couchiching?


Is this one easily accessable from shore?

I have been thinking about checking it out since it is close to home.

Thanks

[simcoediver]

No,Its about 1/2 to 3/4 Kilometers from shore.

[Juggernaut]

Are there any shore dives near there other than the Morrisson?
I'd be willing to drive and hour or so from Barrie for a good shore dive. My boat is temporarily unavailable.

Also would that 1/2 to 3/4 k distance be to far a swim for someone in decent shape?

Or a paddle? The motor on my Zodiac is dead but I could paddle out to see it.

ThanksThanks

[Juggernaut]

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[simcoediver]

Yes you could paddle out in your Zodiac ,Swimming out is not really an option too many boats cruising by,It should still be marked with a white jug ..

[Juggernaut]

Cool!

I'll be diving there tomorrow!

Those jugs make life SO much easier!

I also have the GPS numbers. Do these sound correct? N 44 27.761 / W 79 28.851

Thanks a lot for the info.!

[mizzy]

Juggernaut, the jug was still there on wednesday night. Yes your GPS numbers look correct. As I've mentioned before, at this location a dive flag is a must. Let us know what you think of this dive. Mizz

[Juggernaut]

I know its being a very long time since I checked in on this board.

I attempted to go out and dive both the Wawinet and the Paycheck.

I loaded up our dive gear and the Zodiac with the intention of paddling out to the Paycheck since my motor was still not working. I drove out to line #9 and unloaded the gear, inflated the boat and went to get the paddles. Guess what I forgot them.
Oh well. Just did a scenic shallow dive and played with the crayfish.

Anyway I was wondering if someone has recently dove the Wawinet and recorded the acurate GPS numbers?

My son and I did dive the Niagara II later on as part of my holidays and it was great.
Have not been in the water since. Really seemed to be a very short summer.

[sunseeker]

hi
does anyone have any infomation on the location of the mariposa belle aka enterprise ?
she was suppose to be found in 1999,but that is the last infomation i have found on her .

sun8ca aka steve

[UW Ray]

Hi All,

I noticed that some of you were talking about the GeoDiving web site earlier (http://www.geodiving.com) and I thought it would be neat to let u all know that they have added google maps to their site. I was using the map on the home page to take a look at the sites in the great lakes. I guess their still working on it as i can't see anything near me just yet (unless i search of course). I thought i'd add to the discussion.

take care.

Ray.

[simcoediver]

Has anyone dove the Wawinet yet and possibly have the correct coordinates? Its been a while since I asked and Im sure theres someone out there who can share these numbers?

[tropical]

Speaking of coordinates, anyone have the coordinates to the opening to the Moira Cave? I know it's not diving related but it's somewhere in South-Eastern Ontario near the Moira River: http://www.cancaver.ca/docs/longest.htm

[Joanne Habl]

Does anyone know the coordinates for the Pratt, just off Long Point in Lake Erie (Ontario side)