View Full Version : NSS-CDS not recognized in some countries?
DANM
October 13th, 2008, 04:29 PM
Hi;
i just got back from grand caymen, and i was having trouble at some dive shops being allowed to rent tanks and dive, i had gotten my basic cave cert in aug. that was the only card i brought with me. one shop noticed that there is no diver # on the card and no picture of me, they were nice and just had me put the instructor # on the form, anouther would not recognize the card at all even with me showing my drivers license with the picture, i was pissed so i told them to look up my padi advanced certification on line, he did and i was allowed to dive, when getting ready my wife and the other couple were getting in the water and when i hooked my tank up it only had 2600 psi in it, since they were ready to go i just went in, shallow dive, after when we said something they just blew my wife off. needless to say we didn't dive with them anymore. has anyone else had a similar problem? the whole point of going with this agency was to prove that i had the best training. thanks in advance for your input, Dan
Walter
October 13th, 2008, 04:37 PM
Sounds like you ran into an idiot. Lots of agencies don't have photos or numbers.
DANM
October 13th, 2008, 04:48 PM
he was kind of a jack a$$, i'm telling him that overhead enviornment traing is far superior then most any other training, and he said he wouldn't even recognize the card.
Gombessa
October 13th, 2008, 05:05 PM
I'm not too surprised. There was a thread around recently about how "specialized" and tech certifications, no matter how rigorous, tend not to be seen as much (and hence recognized) at tourist-focused, "resort" locations. It sucks, but it is what it is.
Capt Jim Wyatt
October 13th, 2008, 05:38 PM
Sounds like you ran into an idiot. Lots of agencies don't have photos or numbers.
Agreed.
NSS-CDS is the largest cave diver training agency in the world, and the best IMHO.
The guy who did not recognize your card is obviously uninformed. Was he a Caymanian or an expatriate?
Jim
DANM
October 13th, 2008, 07:37 PM
i think he was austrailian, he was a divemaster or an instructor because he was able to look up my padi advanced certification. this was a padi 5 star dive center, i think it was sunset house, it is just past where the cruise ships come in
Capt Jim Wyatt
October 13th, 2008, 07:48 PM
i think he was austrailian Well there ya go.
If he would have Googled NSS-CDS before he did the PADI inquiry he would have seen quickly that NSS-CDS is an internationally recognized agency.
Maybe he has eaten too much vegemite. :popcorn:
Jim
Cave Diver
October 13th, 2008, 08:10 PM
i think he was austrailian, he was a divemaster or an instructor because he was able to look up my padi advanced certification. this was a padi 5 star dive center, i think it was sunset house, it is just past where the cruise ships come in
Was it part of a condo complex?
DANM
October 13th, 2008, 08:21 PM
we went to dive tech and had a nice dive and the people were great, i went over the wall and hit 205', then came back up just before deco, did't want to go into deco i only had an 80 and it was a good swim out to the wall i knew i wouldn't have enough air to go through any deco time to do a proper acent, but you get a nice buzz feeling at that depth
Charlie99
October 13th, 2008, 11:45 PM
i went over the wall and hit 205', then came back up just before deco, did't want to go into deco i only had an 80 and it was a good swim out to the wall i knew i wouldn't have enough air to go through any deco time to do a proper acent, but you get a nice buzz feeling at that depth
he was kind of a jack a$$, i'm telling him that overhead enviornment traing is far superior then most any other training, and he said he wouldn't even recognize the card. Or maybe he just recognized what sort of diver you are, and didn't want to deal with it.
Belmont
October 13th, 2008, 11:56 PM
we went to dive tech and had a nice dive and the people were great, i went over the wall and hit 205', then came back up just before deco, did't want to go into deco i only had an 80 and it was a good swim out to the wall i knew i wouldn't have enough air to go through any deco time to do a proper acent, but you get a nice buzz feeling at that depth
Are you joking or trolling???:confused:
DiverBizz
October 14th, 2008, 12:01 AM
hmmmm trolling, trolling we will go.
Doubler
October 14th, 2008, 01:07 AM
A question? Why would you only bring a cave diving certification to an open ocean dive location when you have a Advanced open water certification. There is only one reason " recently NSS-CDS cave certified". You were bragging and you know it. I have never used my NSS-CDS cert anywhere but the springs. You can't really blame someone not from a cave diving area from not recognizing an NSS-CDS card.
MANTA III
October 14th, 2008, 03:32 AM
Charlie,
I was going to say the same thing. Until DanM starts paying a dive operations insurance, or owns one, maybe he should shut the hell up! A dive operator can refuse anyone at anytime. Seems like Sunset House (although by the way he described where it was at, it was probably more Eden Rock) was clairvoyant on what type of diver he was.
Cave Diver
October 14th, 2008, 07:49 AM
the whole point of going with this agency was to prove that i had the best training. thanks in advance for your input, Dan
he was kind of a jack a$$, i'm telling him that overhead enviornment traing is far superior then most any other training, and he said he wouldn't even recognize the card.
we went to dive tech and had a nice dive and the people were great, i went over the wall and hit 205', then came back up just before deco, did't want to go into deco i only had an 80 and it was a good swim out to the wall i knew i wouldn't have enough air to go through any deco time to do a proper acent, but you get a nice buzz feeling at that depth
Apparently you missed something during the "best" "far superior" training you recieved. Either that or you just can't fix stupid.
If you were a new diver talking about doing something like that, I could overlook it thinking you may not have been trained properly or just didn't understand the dangers or know better yet.
But for some touting their advanced training, to do this type of diving is just plain silly. I seriously hope you dont approach cave diving with this type of attitude and disregard for safety.
Walter
October 14th, 2008, 10:04 AM
we went to dive tech and had a nice dive and the people were great, i went over the wall and hit 205', then came back up just before deco, did't want to go into deco i only had an 80 and it was a good swim out to the wall i knew i wouldn't have enough air to go through any deco time to do a proper acent, but you get a nice buzz feeling at that depth
In addition to what others have already posted, it's impossible to dive to 200 feet without going into deco.