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Scuba1 · Jul 27, 2001

A friend of mine and i had an encounter with 2 OW Divers neer a cave in 35 mtrs that we regularly visit. we just came out of it when we met those 2 other divers hanging around close to that cave. They have not kept a check on there divetime and had blown there ND limits. They had eatch one of those Recreational Diveplanners in there pockets but were diving ....in the grey zone and did not know there dacotime.
As my friend and i had 15Ltr doubbles and only a bottomtime of 12 min. we decidet to take them with decostops acording to our tables and the bottomtime they had (25min) back to the dry.As they had only ithink singles they had to sit it uot on our octos.
Apat from the fact, that they had not sufficient air i think,that the Recriational diveplanner should be expandet to and account for things like this case. Just for safety.

What do you all think.

Michael

Fishkiller · Jul 27, 2001

Just some questions/comments

1)"They have not kept a check on there divetime and had blown there ND limits." How did you find out this information underwater?

2)"They had eatch one of those Recriatioal Diveplanners in there pockets but were diving" I keep my RDP in my log book nice and dry to read before and after my dive. Now my computer I kept with me in the wet.

3)"that the Recriational diveplanner should be expandet to and account for things like this case" I believe it does. I also learned that in OW class.

4)"As they had only ithink singles they had to sit it uot on our octos." nice of you to share air.

Scuba1 · Jul 27, 2001

I guess they just did not look at the watch often enough and found out the hard way,that time passes quikly when you are enjoing it. As for underwatercomunikation..we allways carry wetnotes so we kan note our poition for future dives.
They had 15 ltr. singles. We had planned of spending more time down ....but what do you do in a situation like that?

jbd · Jul 27, 2001

Getting them safely to the surface was the right thing to do. Sounds like they need some refresher or remedial training to get them back into diving safely.

King_Neptune · Jul 27, 2001

WOW ... Now I think I get it ...

Now I think I know why Don speaks so highly of his "Inflatable Date" ... Could this be his Dive Buddy?

Is this the birth of a Newly Pantented Dive Product ...

The "Share Air" ... Now that's a backup air source! Not to mention they are cheap to take to the movies. The nicest thing is you can fold them up and put them away when youre done.

:mission:

Conch · Jul 31, 2001

So much for "Plan your dive .... Dive your plan"

Conch

TexasMike · Jul 31, 2001

Scuba1....did these two divers you assisted have computers with them?

TwoBitTxn · Jul 31, 2001

All my PADI RDP tables say about deco is if a limit is passed by less than 5 min then 8 min at 15 ft is mandatory. If it is exceeded by more than 5 min then 15min at 15 feet is urged if there is enough air to do so.

KN.... LOL.... scary thought

I would imagine part of the reason for no more info than that is it would make it too easy for people who have no business doing deco dives to do them. ( Not that I agree )

Tom

Rick Murchison · Jul 31, 2001

When I learned to dive 30 years ago (YMCA), deco tables were part of the tables I carried. Even as late as the late 80's the SSI tables had a complete set of air deco tables on the back.
The removal of decompression tables from the recreational scene was a move that I thought irresponsible at the time, and I still do. And I still carry my own, even though I carry a computer as well... just in case.
Rick

Warhammer · Jul 31, 2001

The YMCA tables still have deco tables on the back. Their not as complete as the US Navy tables but they do provide for most foreseeable screw-ups.

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