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jdiverhenley
February 2nd, 2009, 08:00 PM
So here is my try at a trip report.

This was our first trip to Roatan so we were pretty inexperienced to the area.
Lets start with customs, In previous post I heard customs was very slow to get through, this was not the case at all. It was actually the easiest of any of the destinations we have been to so far. Very quick and smooth.
Day 1:
We arrive at the airport on time, but have to wait for the shuttle from FIBR for 45 min before pickup, and then we were picked up by the employee shuttle, so we got a tour of the island before we ever got to the resort. We found the employee's very nice, and wouldn't have minded except we had already been traveling for 24 hours and had a serious case of the sore butt :sigh_2: but this was a very minor inconvenience.
When we did get to the lobby the staff was courteous and had us get lunch because the room wasn't ready yet, but soon we were off to the room to relax and get some sleep for our big day of diving the next day.

Day 2:
Breakfast: All meals at FIBR are a buffet. We found the food to be decent and filling, definitely not 5 star, but we were definitely not paying 5 star prices to be there. So we were happy with the quality. Previous post have talked about the poor quality of the food, and while not great, it was good. I think Americans in general should understand we have the best and safest food supply in the world, with good refrigeration a standard. But when you go to some of the smaller countries, they have a much harder time, so the food is packaged differently. Milk taste funny cause it comes in a box, etc. If we ate the same things we ate in the states I was disappointed in the flavor, but if I ate local items I found it to be very good. You couldn't go wrong with an omelet in the morning and chicken and seafood during the day, plus the Pasta was very good.
I see what people were saying about the waiters or staff not being to helpful, but we found if you get to know them, they were better and more attentive. "Franklin" during the evening is the best waiter of the place, nice and helpful from day 1,
but enough about food and on to the diving.

Orientation: We were told 8 am but no one showed up until 8:30. I don't think they expected us to dive the 1st trip out, but we insisted, so they did a quick orientation and off we went.

This is the 1st time we dove on a "cattle boat" and it wasn't too bad. There were only 3 dives during the week that felt really crowded(19 divers) but for the most part their were between 12-15 divers on each dive. We had a boat captain (Moses):D and our Dive Master (Miguel):cool2: I felt both were capable and did a good job. The only problems we had was that Miguel was hard to understand, so we would listen for key words(Reef is on the left shoulder) etc. Also When you have a large group it is hard for a dive master to keep track of everybody, but he did alright. I didn't find them overly friendly or more importantly, over protective. We are both relatively competent divers (wife and me) 75 dives, not a lot but enough to get along, and with the exception of a few times, we did what we want and came up when we want.(plan your dive and dive your plan)

On our fist dive vis was about 60 to 80 feet, I know some of you complain about the poor visibility, but when we dive, its usually in Oregon and Washington and we loved the visibility . This is probably the best dive for my wife because we got to see our 1st Sea Horse:shocked2::biggrin: (pictures to follow later, slow internet connection)
and we proceeded to dive 13 more times during the next 4 days for a total of 17 dives over 6 days. I know some of you are scoffing, about how few this is, but I'm fat and out of practice and I was tired every night after diving.
Some of the highlights that I would recommend for anyone diving there.
"Mary's Place" dramatic features and and lots of life, the same can be said for "Calvin's Crack" on the Crack we got to see our 1st ever "Frog Fish" :yeahbaby:
but I think the most enjoyable dive was "Gold Chain Reef" this is also the location for our night dive. The 1st part of the dive is entertaining but at the end we got to spend 2o to 30 min in the shallows on top of the reef, and the amount:crazyeye: of life is staggering. This is definitely great for the people who love "Macro"
the night dive was very cool Lots of Crabs and Lobster and we saw 2 medium size Octopus, very pretty, and colorful.
"The wreck of MR Bud" was also an exceptional dive, but we like the wrecks, and the shore dive from FIBR is an absolutely must do. It is easy, and fun. The DC-3 is still recognizable, and the wreck is very large and cool with easy penetration without extra risk. Not much in the way of large coral or life on the shore dive, but an abundance of juvenile's and small coral is forming. Just make sure you don't surface around either because it is the main channel where the boats come out from FIBR.
Their are also a couple of wall dives from the same location, but we didn't get to do any of those.
Some of the great things we saw were, Green Moray Eals, we actually saw quite a few of these. Sea Horses (2) Lobster, Crabs, Frog Fish, Spotted Moray's(I think), Lizard Fish(?)beautiful reefs (probably the best I have seen) Octopus, Barracuda and just a wide variety of reef fish.

Disappointments: We didn't get to see a Whale Shark(wrong time of year and wrong area) and any real large fish. I think the largest was probably a 4.5 foot long Barracuda.
The amount of trash and garbage in the water and on the reef, while not a lot, it wasn't uncommon to see plastic bags, cans, plastic bottles, etc. at least once a day down on the reef, and along every shore.

Sum up:
We found FIBR to be almost what it advertised. It is definitely a dive resort, and I hope the new owners take some time and money to fix the place up. I think the previous owners had to be idiots, because you can see where they took so many short cuts, in the rooms (Laminate floors):dork2: :confused: Warped and not sealed. You can feel where the floor is week and sags when you walk on it. Plumbing (showers) with the water faucet barely holding on, etc.
Don't misunderstand, we thought the rooms were fine, but they would get much better reviews, and have happier customers if they just cleaned up the rough edges a little. Plus they advertise 2 bars and (I think) 3 restaurants, but we only saw the 1 restaurant and bar the entire time we were there.

But these are small things compared with the the overall experience of the week.
We had a week of great diving, nice people, warm weather and hardly any bugs until the last day.(and then WOW)

Would I recommend FIBR to new divers or People who are accustomed to 5 star resorts.........Absolutely not. But to anyone else looking to dive, have a nice time, and who is not to interested in night life this a a great place to stay.



Thanks for listening
Jason and Dorothy Henley

adjuster-jd
February 2nd, 2009, 09:58 PM
Thanks for the report. I'm off to FIBR in a couple weeks so it's nice to have an update. Excellent that you saw seahorses - my favorite thing to see there...
Did you do any night dives on the Prince Albert?

luckydays
February 2nd, 2009, 10:05 PM
Thanks for the report. I am thinking of FIBR for my fall dive trip. I am still collecting data so it is nice to hear current info about the place.

jdiverhenley
February 2nd, 2009, 10:11 PM
no I was pretty tired, but a couple of people we met on the boat did, and they saw some large eals, barracuda and a squid.

Martha
February 2nd, 2009, 10:27 PM
Thanks for the trip report. My husband and I are headed to Roatan/FIBR for the first time in June, so I was very happy to read that you really enjoyed the trip.

jdiverhenley
February 2nd, 2009, 10:34 PM
When we were there, we noticed a lot of employee's working on the buildings and trim. It looks like they are already making improvements.

jdiverhenley
February 2nd, 2009, 10:44 PM
Here are some photo's I'll put more up later.
Pictures by jdiverhenley - Photobucket (http://s718.photobucket.com/albums/ww182/jdiverhenley/)

coldwaterlloyd
February 2nd, 2009, 11:43 PM
Very nice trip report . It looks and sounds about the same when I was there 9 years ago . It was in transition at the time between ownership . The Spanish company that had just bought it back then appeared to know nothing of the scuba industry and were going to try to turn it into a euro beach resort . With the sand flies there they did'nt have a chance .

CODMAN
February 3rd, 2009, 11:07 AM
Great report!:coffee: It sounds pretty much as I have seen it in 2006! Not perfect, several things that could be better, and not the greatest for newbies ... But still amazing value for your diving dollar!

19 divers for 1 DM? And i though we had it bad with 12 when I went!:shakehead: But nevertheless, if I went back I'd do my own thing away from the crowds... If they started with smaller groups or fixing the place up more, it wouldn,t be as cheap as it is!:cool2:

leadweight
February 3rd, 2009, 03:53 PM
Every time I went there I thought the hamburgers they served at lunch were the worst in the world. One trip there were a lot of rude people. OTOH, you do get a lot for the price.

CODMAN
February 3rd, 2009, 04:27 PM
Every time I went there I thought the hamburgers they served at lunch were the worst in the world. One trip there were a lot of rude people. OTOH, you do get a lot for the price.

I wouldn't touch one of those hamburgers with a 10 foot pole! One of them tried to crawl up on my plate when I wasn't looking, but I managed to beat it off with a fork...:rofl3::rofl3::rofl3: I mostly stuck to the pasta, the fish and the shrimp while I was there! Not very varied, but hey I was there to dive...:D

deeper thoughts
February 3rd, 2009, 06:03 PM
Thnx for taking the time to write

DixieDL
February 12th, 2009, 01:29 PM
Thnx for the trip report.. I am headin to FI 1st of April for the first time and it is always nice to hear what to look forward to..!!

Dannybot
February 12th, 2009, 08:30 PM
If you go, the salads are pretty good, but the dressings offered are pretty bad, take a bpttle of your own dressing and you won't go hungry, that's what I'll do when I go next time. also, I have read that they are renovating the whole resort, hopefully making the rooms a little nicer.

cruiser
February 13th, 2009, 07:40 PM
Enjoyed your trip report.

Did you dive Nitrox on any of your dives?

jdiverhenley
February 14th, 2009, 12:43 PM
no but they had free nitrox there. A lot of the people on the boat would switch back and forth.
We need to take our nitrox coarse, because I don't know why you would switch?

RoatanMan
February 14th, 2009, 03:37 PM
no but they had free nitrox there. A lot of the people on the boat would switch back and forth.
We need to take our nitrox coarse, because I don't know why you would switch?

On the South Side of Roatan, the use of nitrox is arguable either way.

Remember, nitrox is best used for repetitive and/or longer b.t. dives to moderate depths.

The South side of Roatan presents you with depths that are best kept above 75 feet. Because of the constant Sunlit exposure to the walls, many divers look at 55' as their general depth limit, only occasionally blipping down deeper to see something a DM is excitedly pointing out. It is not uncommon to see an overall dive depth average out at 43 feet or so. Again- this is where the cool stuff is lurking on the South side.

If depth of diving and the consequent loading of Nitrogen is not an issue, you have to look at the BT, the bottom time or minutes that you are underwater. On one dive, as well as the subsequent dives.

If you are looking at five dives a day, which is easy to do from CCV, and a little more challenging from FIBR, that really starts to pile up. Your "pixels••••••••on your dive computer start to hover in high yellow near the red zone towards the end of that fourth dive at 4pm.

By the time you've had dinner and get ready for an 8pm night dive, the "nitrogen loading graph" has backed down due to your off-gassing surface interval. So- if you were really staring at that computer, and believed the high pixel depiction of your Nitrogen loading to be an indicator of being more prone to DCI at a given moment, that fourth dive (at 3pm) would be the moment. Science has not proven this to be precisely the case, but I'm not going to argue with my computer.

I dive air on an air computer (on Roatan's South side). Rarely do my pixels get past middle yellow, but I have actually gone into deco at 4pm on the fourth dive~ once. {after 12 days of 5x a day, I owed 2 minutes at 25'}

In answer to your question, many divers will dive nitrox using air tables (computers) always aware of their Oxygen toxicity depth limit. It's their safety margin. Very few will switch back and forth between nitrox and air, unless a dive profile pushes their decision. Some people just like the idea of diving nitrox (it makes them feel peppy or horny or _____ ), other people are just cheap and don't see the need for spending money to buy it if they don't need it.

If nitrox was free, that obviates the second possible reason. If they switched to air from nitrox on a repetetive dive because they wanted to exceed the Oxygen toxicity depth limit imposed by the use of nitrox- their heirs might be in for a real surprise. It depends upon their understanding of the mathematics.

I wouldn't recommend switching (or even using it), not in that localized environment of shallow diving.

leadweight
February 14th, 2009, 04:02 PM
Doc,

The only time I can remember switching between Air and Nitrox was in places where Nitrox was expensive but the reefs did not offer a shallow place to go play at the end of the dive. By using Nitrox on the first dive, I would get more bottom time on both dives. I suppose if Nitrox was free, or at a fixed price no matter how many tanks were used, the only reason to switch would be for a dive planned to go deeper than the MOD.

Generally, I would agree that Nitrox does not do that much for a diver on the South side of Roatan, not only because the good stuff is at less than 60 feet, but the presence of a nice shallow reef at the top of the wall.

There are divers out there who will not dive without Nitrox for "safety" reasons which I consider imaginary.

John_B
February 14th, 2009, 06:17 PM
I went to CCV in November and I did all 22 dives with Nitrox. The lion's share of the dives I did started out as wall dives and then became shallower reef dives in the 30'-40' range part way through each dive. Given the starting depths and the number of dives I did that week, I'm glad I had the option of diving 32% for all of the dives. CCV charged for Nitrox tanks on a $10 per tank basis until you reached the weekly Nitrox rate and then the $125 weekly rate applied instead. From the FI website (http://www.fantasyislandresort.com/us/index.html) it looks like you may have to buy their $150 weekly Nitrox package in advance (their breakeven point is at 10 tanks at $15/each), so be sure to check with them.

FWIW, if it helps these are the max depths for all of the dives from my dive log that week: 71', 59', 52', 62', 47', 61', 62', 63', 66', 74', 54', 85', 99', 69', 58', 38'*, 75', 59', 80', 53', 63', and 71'.

* Night dive on Managerhea's Reef

RoatanMan
February 14th, 2009, 07:14 PM
FWIW, if it helps these are the max depths for all of the dives from my dive log that week: 71', 59', 52', 62', 47', 61', 62', 63', 66', 74', 54', 85', 99', 69', 58', 38'*, 75', 59', 80', 53', 63', and 71'.

Does your box give you the average depth that would go along with the max? That would be a great bit of info, as well.

John_B
February 14th, 2009, 08:15 PM
Does your box give you the average depth that would go along with the max? That would be a great bit of info, as well.
Average depth wouldn't look anything like those numbers. I would say considerably more than half of the bottom times for those dives were spent in the 30'-40' range, occasionally even as shallow as 20' -- except those times where I dawdled down the wall for some reason; Mary's Place, Calvin's and Valley of the Kings come to mind. :D

(I haven't been able to get the JTrak software to successfully "talk" to my Uwatec Tec 2g computer because the USB IrDA device I already have doesn't seem to be supported by JTrak on OS X, Uwatec wants me to buy their $99 version instead. I keep meaning to buy different IrDA hardware or fire up one of my old Windows PCs and try SmarTrak but haven't been gotten around to it.) I'll see what I can do this weekend...

harleygrandma58
April 8th, 2009, 08:30 AM
We are planning a trip there over Thanksgiving. Half will be divers, a few snorkelers and a couple just sun worshippers. Kind of worried about the resort, the big guinea pigs. Is the pool nice? Seen some pics, looks big, people say very small. Swim up bar? Is it there? We have some new divers but think they will be fine. My husband is a master scuba diver and I don't dive but I love to snorkel.

robint
April 8th, 2009, 09:19 AM
Doc and John - regarding the nitrox: we always dive nitrox if we have it available, it is a safety factor, the less nitrogen you absorb each day the better, plus it makes for more energy at the end of the day. :eyebrow: :D
I know it isn't necessary in most cases, but I would rather do the nitrox even though I always spend the last part of my dives shallow to offgas even before I start my safety stop. At CCV, when we did all our dives on nitrox, as well as in Bonaire and several liveaboards when we did the same, I never had to end a dive early because of deco time, and we got in 4 dives per day average, some times 5, and our dives are usually looooooong. :D
I love geezer gas and will continue to use it whenever possible!

robin:D

CODMAN
April 8th, 2009, 10:49 AM
Hi there, I was there in 2006 when the new pool just opened. It was quite nice then (don't know about now though...), but it was quite small. I don't know, I'd say maybe place to comfortably fit 20 people? maybe someone else who has been there recently can give a better estimate. Yes there was a smim up bar. Snorkelling is easy. There is the beach area, with very little to see...:D or just a short swim out around the dive gazebo, you have access to the whole Roatan reef system with very shallow and lush reefs! Tons of fun if you are a decent snorkeler. The Beach is also decent. Just remember to bring bug repellent for the sand fleas...

In my oppinion, the diving there is ideal for newbies. No current, warm and quite shallow diving. Just make sure they know what they are doing since the DMs there don't baby sit the divers. They are more like guides than actual DMs. If they know how to dive safely, and follow the guide, they'll be fine.

Have fun!:coffee:



We are planning a trip there over Thanksgiving. Half will be divers, a few snorkelers and a couple just sun worshippers. Kind of worried about the resort, the big guinea pigs. Is the pool nice? Seen some pics, looks big, people say very small. Swim up bar? Is it there? We have some new divers but think they will be fine. My husband is a master scuba diver and I don't dive but I love to snorkel.

BigHarryDiver
April 16th, 2009, 10:04 AM
Thanks for the report. I'm off to FIBR in a couple weeks so it's nice to have an update. Excellent that you saw seahorses - my favorite thing to see there...
Did you do any night dives on the Prince Albert?


Hi - just curious how your FIBR trip went? A group from the Wilmington DE are heading there 4-18 for a week on the island.

Thanks,
Harry

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