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G-lock
May 8th, 2003, 05:18 PM
Ok, gang I have a question. I am currently wrestling with replacing my console/bottom timer with a console computer, however, I am toying with the idea of running the console computer off the right hand side of the 1st so that when ascending I can more easily keep the console in my right hand and the inflator in the left. I don't truly know why the primary is the only thing on the right other than to facilitate reg. recovery. You might also note that I intend to go to the long hose and a bungied backup, so recovery may not be such an issue for me. I have considered a wrist computer but I fear losing it or worse. Thanx in advance. Jeff
Scubaroo
May 8th, 2003, 05:23 PM
Go for the wrist mount - as you've already figured out, you want to be able to easily track depth while using your left hand for the deflator button. Putting a console and hose on the right hand side could create difficulties with deploying the long hose.
If you really don't want the wrist mount, keep the console in it's "regular" position.
MikeFerrara
May 8th, 2003, 05:23 PM
I would really recommend trying it on the right wrist. Then it's right there where you can see it without making any special movements. Also it lets you shorten the HP hose and get rid on the big paddle on th end of it. Those changes combined with a correctly routed long primary and bungied second and you'll have a nice clean functional rig.
G-lock
May 8th, 2003, 05:46 PM
I originally thought that the wrist was the way to go, but my dive buddy seems to think that wrist devices are too easily lost both underwater and on the boat. I need to consider the pros and cons of both. Can any verify why the primary is the only device on the right side of the 1st?? Jeff
metridium
May 8th, 2003, 05:48 PM
If you're worried about losing a wrist unit, simply replace the strap with loops of bungee cord. There are several good posts in the archives on how to do that, including one on tying secure knots (http://www.scubaboard.com/showthread.php?threadid=20941&s=&perpage=25&pagenumber=1&display=show).
There's the huge side benefit of not have to buckle and unbuckle straps on every dive. If you dive with heavy gloves, this is a godsend. Trust me!
metridium
May 8th, 2003, 05:55 PM
G-lock wrote...
Can any verify why the primary is the only device on the right side of the 1st?? Jeff I'm not sure what you mean. My primary and secondary are both on my right side, and my wing inflator comes off the right post when I dive doubles.
G-lock
May 8th, 2003, 06:01 PM
metridium once bubbled...
I'm not sure what you mean. My primary and secondary are both on my right side, and my wing inflator comes off the right post when I dive doubles.
Hmmm...Maybe I'm confused, in what I understand to be a recreational rig setup the primary is off the right hand side of the 1st and the octo is off the left. This assumes you looking at the reg standing behind the tank which is the way it would appear if you were wearing it. I hope that made sense?? Jeff
metridium
May 8th, 2003, 07:34 PM
G-lock wrote...
Hmmm...Maybe I'm confused, in what I understand to be a recreational rig setup the primary is off the right hand side of the 1st and the octo is off the left. This assumes you looking at the reg standing behind the tank which is the way it would appear if you were wearing it. I hope that made sense?? Jeff In that setup, my primary and secondary came off the right side of the reg, with the drysuit and wing inflators off the left, along with the pressure gauge.
Wendy
May 8th, 2003, 08:52 PM
G-lock once bubbled...
Hmmm...Maybe I'm confused, in what I understand to be a recreational rig setup the primary is off the right hand side of the 1st and the octo is off the left. This assumes you looking at the reg standing behind the tank which is the way it would appear if you were wearing it. I hope that made sense?? Jeff
Kinda sounds like you are confusing it with a doubles set up where the primary reg is run off the right post and the back=up on the left.
G-lock
May 8th, 2003, 09:54 PM
Ok, I'm lost. I'm not sure where doubles entered the picture? Anyway, let's see if I can explain this. When wearing the rig the spg/console is on the left and the octo is on the left, the primary 2nd stage comes over the right shoulder. This is a basic recreational rig, correct? My question is why is the primary 2nd the only device on the right side and why not put the SPG/Console/Computer on that side so that I could ascend with the computer in my right hand and the inflator in my left, which would remove the need to reach across the chest to get the spg/conosle/computer up where I could easily see the ascent rate indicator. Sorry if I'm dense, I just want to see what others think. Jeff
DiveTub
May 8th, 2003, 09:58 PM
http://www.scubaboard.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24679
G-lock
May 8th, 2003, 10:08 PM
Sydney_Diver once bubbled...
http://www.scubaboard.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24679
Sydney_Diver-
Saw that thread, my question isn't so much wrist v console, as I see pros/cons to both, but can I run the console on the right side of my rig rather than the left, or this too dangerous due to reg. recovery issues. My goal is to get the comp. out in my right hand and up where I can see it, a wrsit mount accomplishes this as well as a console on the right side, but I think the console is much less suspectible to loss, damage or being left behind thatn a wrsit mount. Jeff
seadog
May 8th, 2003, 10:10 PM
U.S. Divers Conshelf regs have both 2nd stages on the right. Have seen a number of different regs set up this way. Can't think of any reason you should be concerned about 2 hoses off that side. However, I recommend a wrist computer; just seems to make more sense to me.
Have you asked your buddy why he thinks there is a lot of lost wrist mounts.
G-lock
May 8th, 2003, 10:16 PM
seadog once bubbled...
U.S. Divers Conshelf regs have both 2nd stages on the right. Have seen a number of different regs set up this way. Can't think of any reason you should be concerned about 2 hoses off that side. However, I recommend a wrist computer; just seems to make more sense to me.
Have you asked your buddy why he thinks there is a lot of lost wrist mounts.
Personal experience, lost his bottom timer in a wreck. I'm leaning towards a wrist mount with a bungie as a back up strap. I already have a spg/depth/compass with a intregrated bottom timer, but the BT may need a new battery, my thought is a wrist mount and the BT/Console as a backup. But if the battery is fried and Dacor won't/can't replace it I'll probably go with an AI computer and hence the question about putting it on the right side with the primary reg. Thanx for the reply. Jeff
metridium
May 8th, 2003, 10:32 PM
G-lock wrote...
When wearing the rig the spg/console is on the left and the octo is on the left, the primary 2nd stage comes over the right shoulder. This is a basic recreational rig, correct? Aside from AIR 2 type inflator/regs, the vast majority of alternate 2nd stages I've seen are on the right.
G-lock
May 8th, 2003, 10:33 PM
After a bit of research in magazines, it appears I'm confused. It looks like most folks have both regs on the right and the console and inflator hoses on the left. Anybody know which is correct or if it even makes a difference. Jeff
G-lock
May 8th, 2003, 10:35 PM
metridium once bubbled...
Aside from AIR 2 type inflator/regs, the vast majority of alternate 2nd stages I've seen are on the right.
It appears I was confused, the octo should be on the right! SO could you switch the octo and HP hose still be OK? Jeff
Wendy
May 8th, 2003, 10:54 PM
I brought up the dubles because I was trying to figure out where you got the idea that the back-up reg comes off of the left side of the valve. I've always seen them on the right with the primary.
So let's say that you did want to run the bac-up off the left side and the console on the right. Would you be running the back-up reg from the left side, across the valve and have to routed to your right side as well? Cuz I think this would cause some stress on the hose to be bent like that. Or were you thinking of having the back-up reg on your left side as well. (I hope you see what I'm trying to ask). Also you mentioned going to a long hose....how are you planning on routing it?Others have brought up the possiblity of the console on the right getting in the way of deploying your long hose.
I vote for both res coming off the right side of the valve and the spg and inflator hose on the left with your computer?BT on your right wrist.
But in the end only you can decide what is best for you and the diving you do. Try some things, and if it doesn't work, change it. Just make sure that any potential dive buddies know how your gear is configured in case they need to know in an emergency.
metridium
May 8th, 2003, 10:57 PM
G-lock wrote...
SO could you switch the octo and HP hose still be OK? Jeff The hoses aren't interchangeable. The SPG uses a high pressure hose; the second stages use low pressure hoses.
DiveTub
May 8th, 2003, 11:16 PM
G-lock once bubbled...
Sydney_Diver-
Saw that thread, my question isn't so much wrist v console, as I see pros/cons to both, but can I run the console on the right side of my rig rather than the left, or this too dangerous due to reg. recovery issues. My goal is to get the comp. out in my right hand and up where I can see it, a wrsit mount accomplishes this as well as a console on the right side, but I think the console is much less suspectible to loss, damage or being left behind thatn a wrsit mount. Jeff
GLock
Its your gear you can run the console on any side you want, provided you have a HP port on the right hand sode of your first stage. Just be aware in doing so you are deviating from the norm and you should be absolutely sure your buddy knows how your rig is configured should you have an something go wrong and he needs to see your gauges.
Once you have gone wrist mount you will never go back to a console !!
DiveTub
May 8th, 2003, 11:20 PM
G-lock once bubbled...
It appears I was confused, the octo should be on the right! SO could you switch the octo and HP hose still be OK? Jeff
Hmm now that sounds like a great way to get bent.
You should have both the primary and Octo coming off the LP ports on the right hand side of your first stage as you stand behind your rig, attaching the Octo to the HP port will only lead to much heartache and pain.
G-lock
May 9th, 2003, 07:24 AM
I was clear that the Octo goes on the LP port, my 1st has 2 HP ports and 5 LP ports on a swivel(SP MK25) so I can put the console on either side. I'm sure putting the octo in the HP port would result in a loud bang. Thanx, Jeff
metridium
May 9th, 2003, 09:06 AM
G-lock wrote...
I was clear that the Octo goes on the LP port, my 1st has 2 HP ports and 5 LP ports on a swivel(SP MK25) so I can put the console on either side. I'm sure putting the octo in the HP port would result in a loud bang. Thanx, Jeff I thought so, but not all have 2 HP ports, so better to be cautious.