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View Full Version : Cleaning the Marmora Dam site on August 10
cobaltbabe June 9th, 2003, 03:52 PM Would anyone in that area like to set up a day to clean up some of the trash that is littering the bottom of the Marmora Dam? Everytime we dive there, it amazes me at the amount of trash on the bottom. If anyone is interested, lets see if we can't arrange something and have some fun in the process. Thank you. Marie divebuddydale June 9th, 2003, 04:40 PM I would be willing to go, however it will have to wait until I actually move to Marmora at the End of this month. Dale mcrae June 9th, 2003, 09:49 PM Where the heck is Marmora :) cobaltbabe June 9th, 2003, 09:52 PM Marmora is a little town along highway 7. Some of the OW tests are done there. It is a nice calm drift dive. weight_for_me June 9th, 2003, 09:55 PM Trash???? where???...seriously....count me in (of course). I can set up a pickup of the "flotsam and jetsom" with the municipality when we get a date. BTW, Marmora is the centre of the diving universe!!!!:D Randy... DivingGal June 10th, 2003, 06:24 AM weight_for_me once bubbled... ... Marmora is the centre of the diving universe!!!! I think you'll have a few (just a few mind you) debates about that one! :D weight_for_me June 10th, 2003, 08:05 AM DivingGal once bubbled... I think you'll have a few (just a few mind you) debates about that one! :D do ya think!! :mean: Randy... Butch103 June 10th, 2003, 11:44 AM I am in if the weekend or day is right...I don't know what is right ..right now.......hehehehe Randy..you are soooooooo...right on.... cobaltbabe June 10th, 2003, 01:07 PM Spoke to Gil this morning and mentioned the clean up and he said that some divers tried it 2 years ago and the Min of Environ put a stop to it. The town put a big fuss up and it was stopped. Does anyone know who we could get intouch with to make sure this goes through? I will call the town hall and see what they say so we don't get introuble with big brother. mcrae June 10th, 2003, 01:13 PM LOL Marmora is a little town along highway 7. Some of the OW tests are done there. It is a nice calm drift dive. __________________ Marie Hwy # 7 starts at Sanria and ends in Ottawa, don't suppose you could be a little more specific. :) Actually I looked at map. I will be with a group of divers from Sarnia at Pt Traverse Ducks Dive June 27th to 29th. Looks like it is not far away. If it turns out to be that weekend, and since it's the centre of all diving let me know and we may be able to help. Gary cobaltbabe June 10th, 2003, 01:31 PM Was trying to think of something smart to say but just can't think of anything today. It is a cute little town and there is a great restaurant with incredible food just north of the site. Could be a fun day if we can get it all together. It sounds like there could be some red tape to cut before we are allowed to even attempt the clean up. weight_for_me June 10th, 2003, 02:09 PM I can talk to the local politicians about a cleanup (I just happen to know them all) ....I have some MOE contacts also. I don't know why wouldn't allow it; cleanups happen all the time. Randy... cobaltbabe June 10th, 2003, 02:11 PM It had to do with the habitat but honestly I think that one less tire and beer can would create a far better living environment for the fish. Also the children could play in the water without having to worry about being cut. Butch103 June 10th, 2003, 02:28 PM ...Cathy Jones ( a councillor) approached Dave (Bottom_Sucker) a couple of years ago to do the same......She wanted it done in May...(way to cold and heavey current that year)... The logs cannot be removed, we need a special license for that, however garbage, (read: junk) can be removed. Caution to be had when removing junk is hazardous waste. When we did a Trent cleanup in Campbellford we had the town guys there with their trucks to haul away the steel and the boyscouts to help pull the bags out of the water. We could (if it is a go) contat the Lions or another group for shore help. cobaltbabe June 10th, 2003, 02:49 PM I think we will need someone on shore to make sure no one gets hurt. You know there is always one who will try to get in there and help and causes more problems. I think the lions club would be a good organization to get intouch with. I know you and Randy have far more pull in the community then I do, so your help is appreciated at any level. And we are just talking about garbage. The wood is part of nature and needs to stay where it is. Thank you everyone. Maybe we can try to include some of the new classes coming out as well. They could log a dive and help at the same time. Maybe, maybe not. Don't want to get over kill on this but the more the merrier. :) bottom_sucker June 10th, 2003, 03:02 PM Cathy was looking for the dive to be at same time as shore-based cleanup events taking place in May. Water flow was much too high at the time for us to undertake. Agreed there is a LOT of crap down there, many broken bottles; Butch and I have already 'hoovered' the unbroken ones. Ask him sometime about our rivermouth bottle recovery expedition last summer. :D And there's our perpetual search for anchors...... Not sure if Lions would be shore support not (speaking as member, we're busy with lots of other stuff currently) Sound like great idea, hope I'm available to participate. Dave cobaltbabe June 10th, 2003, 03:09 PM It could be put towards a meritt badge or something like that. Granted the girlguides have cookies! ;) It would get the children involved as well which isn't a bad thing. bottom_sucker June 10th, 2003, 03:19 PM Sorry CB, no Scouts available either, their organization is in haitus; seeking suitable adult participants. Have given some thought to who would/could provide shore support and haven't come up with any local organization. I'm not sure if we will be able to come up with one or not. Hopefully the other Marmoronians/Marmorites can assist with tagging a group for us. Dave cobaltbabe June 10th, 2003, 03:24 PM the OPP or the Fire Department. I know it is taking it to a different level but it would give the community the opportunity to meet these fine men and women. Or maybe local businesses. Great for business!!! mglasspo June 10th, 2003, 03:32 PM When do you want to do it? I work with the Army Cadets in Ottawa, and if there is a hall we could spend the night at, I'm sure I could arrange something for the fall. I'd come down and do some of the underwater work and leave a couple of officers up on the shore to supervise the kids. cobaltbabe June 10th, 2003, 03:46 PM We still have to check with the local officials to make sure we can do it. Ontario Diver June 10th, 2003, 09:36 PM Will I have to clean up my room next? cobaltbabe June 10th, 2003, 09:55 PM Ontario Diver once bubbled... Will I have to clean up my room next? You have to clean mine first! I don't do house work!!! ;) cobaltbabe June 11th, 2003, 01:56 PM Spoke to an OPP officer while in the line up getting my coffee this morning. I asked him if supplying shore patrol for an event like this is something that they would consider doing and he said it sounded good. He knew some of the divers who dive at Marmora. We will see what the council thinks and then approach whichever group we agree on. weight_for_me June 11th, 2003, 03:09 PM Imagine that...seeing a cop in line for coffee....that wouldn't have been at Timmies would it? Randy... cobaltbabe June 11th, 2003, 03:29 PM weight_for_me once bubbled... Imagine that...seeing a cop in line for coffee....that wouldn't have been at Timmies would it? Randy... Actually Randy he was at the pick up window. Granted come to think of it the place did have alot of cruisers in the parking lot. Today is send a child to camp day or something like that. And yes it was Timmies. I think he had his bullet proof vest on to. You know it was in Tweed. :D Butch103 June 11th, 2003, 06:18 PM .....perhaps someone can answer this.....Who has jurisdiction over the waterway.......I am dam sure it isn't the municipality.....I was under the the impression that water falls under the provincial guidelines....... Yes....???? No.....??? :confused: cobaltbabe June 11th, 2003, 06:22 PM I think there is a certain distance from the shore line that considered part of the town (I could be wrong about this) but for the most part the water is provinical. weight_for_me June 13th, 2003, 08:22 AM OK...spoke to a town councillor last night, as well as the press. We'll get full support as far as trash removal, perhaps even some bbq'd dogs and full press coverage for sure. There is a lot of stuff below the Hwy 7 bridge too that needs removal (bikes, etc) and so I said thats no problem. I'll check with MNR and MOE (in writing of course) and see if there are any obstacles there. But I suspect it shouldn't be a problem. I'd also like to see some fish habitat improvement done like we did last year at the Little Lake cleanup. Randy... Ontario Diver June 13th, 2003, 10:54 AM selling all of the fishing lures we retrieve! maybe get Molsons or Labatts to sponsor since we'll be recovering a signifiacant amout of detrius from thier fine product lines! Butch103 June 13th, 2003, 11:44 AM Ontario Diver once bubbled... selling all of the fishing lures we retrieve! maybe get Molsons or Labatts to sponsor since we'll be recovering a signifiacant amout of detrius from thier fine product lines! ..... .....we could always return the empties for a few new full ones!! ;) Lets decide on a date and get this in motion........ weight_for_me June 13th, 2003, 12:12 PM How about July 19 or 27....I figure it will take that long to get a concensus.:D Randy... Butch103 June 13th, 2003, 12:25 PM weight_for_me once bubbled... How about July 19 or 27....I figure it will take that long to get a concensus.:D Randy... Randy, the 27th is after the 26th which is the OFWF dive get together in Brockville.....Don't know how that would work smoothly.... For myself unfortunately I will be doing a DM course at Camp Ponaka..... August dates are better for me, but please everyone if either one of these dates suggested by Randy work for the masses..DO IT!! mglasspo June 13th, 2003, 01:20 PM I'll try to get up for any date past mid July. But wouldn't be able to bring any shore help until Sept. Mike. cobaltbabe June 13th, 2003, 02:11 PM Randy we can talk about the date this Sunday. I think this is going to be a good thing for both the diving community and the community of Marmora. It's a win/win situation. Thank you in advance to all of you. If we can get it going by mid July we will if not we will have to look at early August. We don't want to intrude on the OFWF BBQ dive at all. tinman June 13th, 2003, 05:24 PM Most clean up dives - Little Lake, Peterborough; and Campbellford - are normally scheduled later in Aug/Sept. so that the boating season's "droppings" can be dealt with. You will also be competing in June/July/Aug with prime diving dates that many divers have already committed to other events. I would happily attend. You might want to put in a call to the Adventure Divers shop in Peterborough or whomever handles the Campbellford dive for some logistical tips. Why not blend garbage recover with enviro dive as they do in Peterborough (eg. installing fish habitats, etc.) Consider segregating certain areas for newer divers and monitoring entry/egress depending on how silty the site is. If heavy objects are being recovered, make sure it is divers equipped and trained to do so... Marmora for the non-Ontarians is a delightful hamlet, less than an hour's drive East on Hwy 7 from the Metropolis of Peterborough (Peterborough? The place where Toronto vacations, slightly NE of GTA...) cobaltbabe June 13th, 2003, 05:27 PM Maybe flyers sent to some of the dive shops asking for participation on all levels. We want this to work but not get too big. divebuddydale June 13th, 2003, 11:32 PM Any Saturday after June 27th is probably good for me. Set a date, and I will let you know. Sundays will not work that great. My schedule would be too hectic, even though it is in the same town as the church. Dale GTADiver June 14th, 2003, 12:53 AM weight_for_me once bubbled... I can talk to the local politicians about a cleanup (I just happen to know them all) ....I have some MOE contacts also. I don't know why wouldn't allow it; cleanups happen all the time. Randy... Are you guys not all related anyways? Venture into Madoc for some chlorine for the gene pool? Just kidding guys, wife is from that (red) neck of the woods. I don't know if there is a PADI shop arround there but they usually want to do the project aware things and I think you get freebees from PADI. Maybe one of the PADI types could explain the project aware. I participated in Brockville's clean up once and they had all sorts of prizes for the divers (from local businesses) such as Restaurant vouchers, ball caps, and movie passes. M&M meat shops even provided the divers with free hot dogs and peach juice. It was a hoot. weight_for_me June 14th, 2003, 10:38 AM OK Cobaltbabe, we'll discuss it tomorrow. Thanks for all of the input everyone. I know it will be hard to get a time that's good for everyone but we'll try. I think it's important to keep it relatively small (for the first time). Yes, knowledgeable people in the use of lift bags is important, as well as having good shore support (attention divemasters!!). I'm writing a letter to council now for their meeting monday nite and expect to get full support. I'm going to be lookig for some expert consulting here in the next few weeks. If anyone wants to volunteer as an advisor(s), pm me with your e-mail address and you'll be in the loop. (Why do I have the feeling that I'm the lead guy on this???) Randy... divebuddydale June 14th, 2003, 01:44 PM If it is held on a saturday that I am free, we can use the church hall for a coordination spot, and a place to come back and eat lunch. (Non alcoholic beverages onky though, sorry ). The church is about 4 to 5 blocks from the dive spot. Dale Butch103 June 14th, 2003, 08:28 PM weight_for_me once bubbled... (Why do I have the feeling that I'm the lead guy on this???) Randy... Cause you're just that kinda guy... I am willing to try and help out where I can folks. Schedule is heavey. I may be wiling to coordinate the divers and do the predive briefing. No promises though..... mglasspo June 15th, 2003, 08:50 PM I talked to a friend up that way and I've been given a tentative place to stay during the trip up. As long as they're in town, of course. Getting a dive store involved would be great, especially if they can provide some air or other goodies :) I think it'll be fun. I hope someone can buddy with me, I don't think any of my regular buddies from the Ottawa area will be into going up. Cheers, Mike cobaltbabe June 16th, 2003, 02:13 PM Your not alone. We need to get some of us together soon and talk legistics. Randy and I discuss some things on Sunday and we need a core group of people to get this off the ground. We need at least 2 dive masters. 4-6 people to be shore support incase of emergency. We are really thinking this out. We want all divers to have a good time and a safe time. Pairing up newbies with more experienced divers. I think everyone involved really appreciates the support. Butch103 June 16th, 2003, 03:23 PM CB, did you and Randy come up with a date? Or is that coming after Randy talks to council? I don't have a problem doing shore duty. "Divemaster" duties. You want as many divers as you can safely use. Perhaps in two different groups or in one large group if area dictates. cobaltbabe June 16th, 2003, 03:28 PM Randy and I spoke about it. We discussed the supervision aspect of it and about having waivers made up. I know Randy wrote council and we need to hear back from the MOE before we set up anything. Randy is far better at the paper work then I am I'm sure. I really think that we need to get together and sit down and get some figures and names on paper. I am open on the weekends. If we are going to do this for sure we need to get a game plan and stick to it. I want all divers in and out safely. That in itself takes alot of planning. weight_for_me June 20th, 2003, 10:09 PM Ok..here is an update...got municipal council approval on Moday (it's in the newspaper!!!) ...other approvals should be coming next week. Still looking for DM's, have dogs and drinks and garbage removal and shore volunteers lined up...whew... Randy... mglasspo June 20th, 2003, 10:59 PM Has there been a date set for this activity yet? divebuddydale June 20th, 2003, 11:27 PM weight_for_me once bubbled... Ok..here is an update...got municipal council approval on Moday (it's in the newspaper!!!) ...other approvals should be coming next week. Still looking for DM's, have dogs and drinks and garbage removal and shore volunteers lined up...whew... Randy... If you want, (after you set a date) I can do some advertising in the Church for Shore Volunteers.. Let me know Dale Sanger tinman June 22nd, 2003, 08:29 AM I just learned that the Peterborough Enviro Dive is scheduled for Sept 20. Campbellford usually schedules one the week before or after Peterborough - anyone have an update on that. I'll add P'boro's to the calendar. When Marmora's date is set, let's get it on the calendar here as well... divebuddydale June 22nd, 2003, 01:10 PM I heard it was advertized in the local paper here (I have not seen it yet) as being sometime in August, but no specific date. If it says any different I will post it here. dale divebuddydale June 22nd, 2003, 02:11 PM I just went and got the local paper, and it said "Late July or Early August" Dale canuckdiver June 23rd, 2003, 11:14 AM cobaltbabe once bubbled... Randy and I spoke about it. We discussed the supervision aspect of it and about having waivers made up. I know Randy wrote council and we need to hear back from the MOE before we set up anything. Randy is far better at the paper work then I am I'm sure. I really think that we need to get together and sit down and get some figures and names on paper. I am open on the weekends. If we are going to do this for sure we need to get a game plan and stick to it. I want all divers in and out safely. That in itself takes alot of planning. well sweetheart, you know that you can count me in, in any way that I am needed. cobaltbabe June 25th, 2003, 12:58 PM Well ladies and gentleman, Randy called me this morning and it is a go. All offical agencies have given us the go ahead for the clean up. Randy has done a wonderful job and deserves a standing ovation in my opinion. We are planning to get together asap to work out the logistics of the whole thing and we will be keeping you informed as to what is going on. Please spread the word, the more the merrier. Thank you again for all your support and to Randy for all the hard work done. Marie weight_for_me June 26th, 2003, 10:43 AM Thanks for making the post yesterday Marie....I knew you'd get the word out. I attended our club meeting last night night looking for recruits/volunteers and ended up with probably 4. (2 DM's, 2 shore assists). I'd like to set the date for August 10, that's a sunday, as it doesn't interfer with any scheduled club dives and gives me/us more of a chance to get organized. I think I have the basics of what we need for logistics....just have to make it happen. My worst fear is to have 200 divers show up...30 or 40 would be nice..:) Will keep you posted. Randy... Butch103 June 26th, 2003, 11:33 AM ......so far this date works for me...Just have to relook at my schedule from the dive shop... cobaltbabe June 26th, 2003, 01:10 PM Sounds good. bottom_sucker June 26th, 2003, 02:12 PM Sounds good, it's on the calendar. Now all I have to do is figure out how many of the team are going to show up. cobaltbabe June 26th, 2003, 02:14 PM So that makes 3. Matt will come as well. :) Ontario Diver June 26th, 2003, 02:31 PM cobaltbabe once bubbled... So that makes 3. Matt will come as well. :) Yes Dear...:upset: (hee hee hee hee!) cobaltbabe June 26th, 2003, 02:41 PM So I can't talk for Matt. I will be there! :out: Butch103 June 26th, 2003, 03:46 PM cobaltbabe once bubbled... So I can't talk for Matt. I will be there! :out: .... .....afterall an independant man you know..... cobaltbabe June 26th, 2003, 03:51 PM Butch103 once bubbled... .... .....afterall an independant man you know..... So he can sit at home and watch soap opera's while I am doing the clean up. :( Ontario Diver June 26th, 2003, 04:38 PM cobaltbabe once bubbled... So he can sit at home and watch soap opera's while I am doing the clean up. :( Great, I won't have to clean the bathroom, sweep the floor, do the laundry, and make dinner like usual? cobaltbabe June 26th, 2003, 04:55 PM Ontario Diver once bubbled... Great, I won't have to clean the bathroom, sweep the floor, do the laundry, and make dinner like usual? Like usual? Dinner yes but the rest neither of us do!!!! cobaltbabe July 2nd, 2003, 02:33 PM Date: August 10, 2003 Place: Marmora Dam, Marmora, Ontario. Time: Anytime after 11:00 - 11:30 Predive briefing: 1pm All divers will be asked to provide proof of certification, so don't forget it. More information to follow as we know. divebuddydale July 2nd, 2003, 08:39 PM Seeing as the time is very close to church time, I may not be able to dive. I will drop by and offer some morale support, and or short support, if I can't dive. Dale DrownedRat July 3rd, 2003, 08:08 AM Hi Guys, I'm a new diver and new to the board (Hi all!!). I was just wondering how to go about signing up for this great event? Cheers Butch103 July 3rd, 2003, 09:42 AM DrownedRat once bubbled... Hi Guys, I'm a new diver and new to the board (Hi all!!). I was just wondering how to go about signing up for this great event? Cheers Just PM Cobaltbabe and/or Weight_for_me, for the details above and beyond those that are posted. Also, I haven't checked the Brockville thread yet, but youshould and if you are free that day, come on down!!!!!! DrownedRat July 3rd, 2003, 11:35 AM Butch103 once bubbled... Just PM Cobaltbabe and/or Weight_for_me, for the details above and beyond those that are posted. Also, I haven't checked the Brockville thread yet, but youshould and if you are free that day, come on down!!!!!! Sweet, food and music. Sounds like fun :-) canuckdiver July 3rd, 2003, 11:36 AM Welcome to the group drowned rat! c'mon out and join us for a dive anytime! tinman July 3rd, 2003, 12:26 PM Would have loved to join you - in Kingston at club dives that weekend. If you have any leftover chores for the following weekend, let me know. A buddy of mine dives there regularly and knows it well and we could collect what's left, or too big, etc... DrownedRat July 3rd, 2003, 07:17 PM canuckdiver once bubbled... Welcome to the group drowned rat! c'mon out and join us for a dive anytime! Thanks!! I'm looking to do as much diving as I can this summer, I'm fresh out of my OW classes and pretty jazzed about the whole thing :-) If you or your group needs and extra person to fill out a group and you don't mind a newbie, let me know. Cheers cobaltbabe July 3rd, 2003, 07:24 PM DrownedRat once bubbled... Thanks!! I'm looking to do as much diving as I can this summer, I'm fresh out of my OW classes and pretty jazzed about the whole thing :-) If you or your group needs and extra person to fill out a group and you don't mind a newbie, let me know. Cheers There will be alot of divers there and give you one more dive for your log. It's a great group. :) canuckdiver July 3rd, 2003, 07:41 PM DrownedRat once bubbled... Thanks!! I'm looking to do as much diving as I can this summer, I'm fresh out of my OW classes and pretty jazzed about the whole thing :-) If you or your group needs and extra person to fill out a group and you don't mind a newbie, let me know. Cheers I never mind diving with new people! Most of my diving is in the kingston-to-picton area, but any weekend you want to get out, just let me know! DrownedRat July 4th, 2003, 03:32 PM Thanks guys, sure no how to make a fellow feel welcome! Cobaltbabe, you can put me on your list of volenteers. I'll keep my eyes peeled on the board for details but I would love to help out. Canukdiver, you just let me know when you guys are going out and I'd be happy to make the drive. If your planing to go out next weekend (july 12th-13th) let me know and I'll be there :) Thanks all cobaltbabe July 7th, 2003, 05:38 PM We actually don't have a list going. Just show up and show your support for a great little community. It will be a great way to meet other divers and some new friends as well. I'm kinda a social butterfly (or moth if you like), so I love things like this. See ya there. :D
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