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PullmanSCUBA
August 2nd, 2009, 10:14 AM
Ok so I did a search for this topic and I found some good information. I could be wrong but I think my situation is a little different than what I have seen. I don't get calf cramps every time I dive, but instead every 3 or 4 dives. The interesting thing is that I will get these cramps in the middle of the night. They are really painful and cause me to limp for a good half hour after I get them. I have tried the potassium and hydration but they don't seem to help.

So my question is, does anyone have the same problem and have you found anything that helps?

knotical
August 2nd, 2009, 01:13 PM
Regular calf raises, similar to these:
How to Do Calf Raises - wikiHow (http://www.wikihow.com/Do-Calf-Raises)
worked for me.

kneptoon
August 2nd, 2009, 01:41 PM
I used to get calf cramps into the second or third dive of the day. I changed fins from foot pocket blades to open heel splits and haven't had cramps diving since. Maybe it is the mechanical difference with the open heel vs. foot pockets. Or the splits actually work as advertised. I still get calf cramps occasionally at night from bicycling. This is helped by stretching and drinking more water.

tboxcar
August 3rd, 2009, 12:54 AM
I certainly think split fins can help, my cramp problems have gone down with the use of them, also when diving intensively eating plenty of bananas, increasing the potassium level does not hurt either! Just a thought?

PullmanSCUBA
August 3rd, 2009, 03:23 AM
Thanks for the advice. I currently use an open pocket fin and I love them, so I am a little reluctent to change to a split fin. (the price hurts a little too) But I will try some of those stretches out.

fresh_fish
August 15th, 2009, 12:04 PM
I started chomping on 2 bananas, and stretching a TON before every dive. I have not had a cramp since. I used to get the night cramps too, as well as one at 45 ft on the bottom of a lake.

panamkat
August 15th, 2009, 12:39 PM
My doctor suggested Calcium-Magnesium supplements. It was hard to find Cal-Mag, I kept seeing Calcium + D, but I live in the tropics and don't really need the D. But the Cal-Mag were such horse pills, I couldn't stand it. So, I suffice with Calcium supplements and Magnesium supplements. I haven't had any more "wake up in the middle of the night screaming" cramps since then!! It really worked for me and it can't hurt. Hydration is always important.

cdreamer
August 15th, 2009, 02:35 PM
My cramps ceased with changing fins. I went from Scubapro Jet fin to
twin jet (split) fins and have never had another calf cramp.

Peter Guy
August 15th, 2009, 02:49 PM
As far as I can tell, the ONLY positive point for split fins is they have a tendency to reduce the strain which causes leg cramps -- thus the praise from people who have switched to splits. That written, I believe the negatives far outweigh the positives regarding split fins.

But then, I'm one of those people who don't kick very hard, don't kick very often and very seldom flutter kick -- which is another way to avoid cramping. The use of a more efficient finning technique lessons the strain, lessons the cramping, reduces air consumption and may also reduce the tendency to kick up silt.

Ya' pays your money and ya's makes your choice.

steelsaint
August 27th, 2009, 08:55 AM
I used to get cramps on almost every dive. It could have been my first or last dive of the day. I started taking vitamin E and it worked. Also make sure your are well hydrated. Muscle cramps happen when the body does not get enough water in your system.

scubadiver888
August 27th, 2009, 11:27 AM
Ok so I did a search for this topic and I found some good information. I could be wrong but I think my situation is a little different than what I have seen. I don't get calf cramps every time I dive, but instead every 3 or 4 dives. The interesting thing is that I will get these cramps in the middle of the night. They are really painful and cause me to limp for a good half hour after I get them. I have tried the potassium and hydration but they don't seem to help.

So my question is, does anyone have the same problem and have you found anything that helps?

I used to get cramps in the middle of the night. For other reasons I started taking multi-vitamins, deep sea fish oils (Salmon usually), drinking many cups of room temperature water every day and eating more things rich in potassium. Bananas aren't actually the richest in potassium. You might want to google "potassium rich foods" and find some lists. I'm eating a lot more cantalope but you can also do papaya, tomatoes, lima beans, plantains (good dried and served as chips) or oat bran. Most these will give you more potassium then a banana.

Additionally, avoid diuretics. Things like coffee, tea, etc. will flush water from your system. Hydrating means WATER not pop or other sugary drinks. Your body will absorb room temperature water more readily then cold water.

You might also want to talk to your doctor. Dehydration can be a sign of kidney problems or diabetes.

The suggestions of using split fins is also a good one. Before I corrected my diet, I switched from blades to split fins. It totally eliminated the cramps during diving. Makes it easier to keep up with the younger divers as well.

TSandM
August 27th, 2009, 01:09 PM
In healthy young people with normal kidneys and normal circulation, in the absence of illness or lack of access to fluid, it is EXTREMELY unlikely that potassium depletion (or calcium, or magnesium) plays any significant role in muscle cramping. Conditioning and stretching are much more important factors.

Nocturnal muscle cramps (non-exertional) are a different animal, and can be quite difficult to control. Quinine has been used for this in the past, but I believe is no longer available in the US.

HERE (http://www.divefitness.com/html/articles.html) is a good site to read about preventing muscle cramps in divers.

boneshakin
October 2nd, 2009, 08:32 PM
Quinine...a product called Leg Cramps made by Hylands contains Quinine and I swear by it

Gombessa
October 2nd, 2009, 08:45 PM
I have the same problem. My calf will cramp anywhere from every other dive, or once every 3-4 dives, and I just kinda hang in the water gritting my teeth until it ends, hoping all the while I don't shoot to the surface and embolize. I also occasionally wake up in the middle of the night with a wicked calf cramp, which royally sucks.

Bananas don't work, extra hydration (starting the afternoon prior) doesn't work, stretching before the dive doesn't work, when it happens, it happens.

It has gotten better the more I dive and the more frequently I dive, which leads me to believe that conditioning and strength training are a big part of the solution.

fresh_fish
October 4th, 2009, 08:38 PM
Quinine...a product called Leg Cramps made by Hylands contains Quinine and I swear by it

This product is great, though they pulled it from the shelves in the US. The only way you can get anything with Quinine now is perscription (most docs won't give it to you), or in tonic water.

carrielsal
October 4th, 2009, 11:12 PM
How cold is the water you are diving in? In the winter when the water is in the low 60's my legs cramp. I wear a 5mm wetsuit and hood, so I'm not cold in general. I think the cold surface intervals also contribute. I do not have this problem in the summer.
Carrie

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