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a22shady

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I was curious with Fall / Winter approaching this being my first year as a diver i plan on making one or more dives even with the water getting colder. Is it possible to get frost Bite From being in the water? I am in a drysuit and currently have Neoprene Gloves Only thing that is directly exposed would be the little of my face from the Reg. Just curious if it could happen. Thanks
 
I don't think the water gets cold enough. It would turn to ice, and you can't dive in that.

I've had dives with snow on the ground and I didn't get frostbite. I followed it up by a 2C bathing-suit-only Polar Bear swim. Some people do ice dives (yes, chipping a hole in the surface) and I haven't heard of any of them getting frostbite.
 
I would imagine that the major physiological detrement to cold water diving would be a case of the disappearing disease. A dose of Viagra should take care of this problem.
 
I would imagine that the major physiological detrement to cold water diving would be a case of the disappearing disease. A dose of Viagra should take care of this problem.
maybe a dose of the disappearing disease and a case of Viagra should take care of this problem.
 
Is it possible to get frost Bite From being in the water? I am in a drysuit and currently have Neoprene Gloves Only thing that is directly exposed would be the little of my face from the Reg. Just curious if it could happen. Thanks

You have no risk of frostbite while you are in the water although your hands may start to swell; as I'm sure you realize, hypothermia is the major problem. The risk for frostbite occurs upon exiting the water in severe cold conditions. Any part of the body that's wet will be super cooled (remember water conducts heat away from tissue faster than air).

My experience diving in cold water (long immersion without a FFM) has been that my mouthpiece has fallen out of my mouth from time-to-time; it's a nuisance and a good indicator that I should already be out of the water. :)
 
Greetings a22shady and DCBC has put you on the right track. It is upon exiting the water that you need to be really concerned about the elements. My hands have gotten cold while diving deep beyond the NDL times. I do not think it is frostbite but it is painful for several days afterward. It is the effect of hypothermia upon extremities when exposure is prolonged. If you are planning to dive year around dry gloves are the way to go. I have a pair and will be adding them to my DS after I complete my Adv. Nitrox / Deco. class. Sounds backwards but I did not want to add something new while I was training. Once you exit the water have a pair of warm dry gloves waiting to gear down. If you are diving in the north you will need them. It is a tradition we dive New Years day every year, it has been very cold a few of them. The wind is not your friend when exiting the water. One year we had to get warm water to un-freeze our buckles.
Our DS's were freezing as well, needless to say we only got one dive in. Bummer!
I would encourage you to research diving in the cold weather very carefully and try to find a group of experienced divers to mentor you in cold procedures. It is very awesome but also very important to plan carefully. Be sure to be safe and have fun.
I have found Nov.,Dec.,etc. to be the funniest diving months just be careful.
CamG Keep diving....keep training....keep learning!
 
Thanks for the info guy's i appreciate it. I am Planning on getting dry gloves once it begins to get colder i am in NJ so there really is no warm water lol. As this is my 1st year i have been doing all my dives at Dutch Springs in PA just diving and practicing different drills i have learned. And i will be continuing into the cold as much as i can. If it gets to cold then maybe i will try out a FFM which i have been looking at. But once again thanks for the responses
 
I found this NEDU tech report to be a fun read:

Sterba, JA. (1990) Field Management of Accidental Hypothermia during Diving. NEDU-1-90. RRR ID: 4248

Sterba 1990 abstract:
Hypothermia of both the extremities and the body core continues to be a major problem in cold water diving. Presently, extremity hypothermia of the hands limits cold water diving exposure more so than body core hypothermia. Painful or numb fingers decrease dexterity, safety, work capacity, and increase the risk of developing nonfreezing cold injury (NFCI), which is reviewed. Levels of body core hypothermia, based on rectal core temperature, are mild (35-32), moderate (32-28), and severe hypothermia (below 28 C). As it relates to cold water diving, the pathophysiology of immersion and mild to severe hypothermia is reviewed including thermoregulation and effects on organ systems. The diving response, composed of bradycardia and peripheral vasoconstriction, has been shown in man to not prolong breath-holding time, or influence alveolar gas exchange, such as oxygen consumption. Survival from cold-water near-drowning may be more dependent on hypothermia than previously recognized. The predisposing factors leading to hypothermia during diving operations are discussed. The determination of body core temperature from various sites including new radio pill telemetry is reviewed. The levels of hypothermia by physical exam findings are reviewed in detail. The field treatment of hypothermia is discussed with attention to a review of the literature, recent research, and first aid management guidelines. The prevention of hypothermia during diving operations and current diving medicine research in the active thermal protection of free- swimming divers is reviewed.
 

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