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globaldiver
July 3rd, 2003, 09:47 AM
I have been looking at gators for a while, but haven't decided if I need them or not. I know they are not essential to diving with a dry suit, but would they be a worth while investment to make wreck diving a bit safer?

I am taking DIRf the 19th of July.

Sincerely

Anders

Arnaud
July 3rd, 2003, 11:24 AM
How long have you been diving with a dry suit?

Do you use ankle weights?

Doppler
July 3rd, 2003, 11:29 AM
globaldiver once bubbled...
I have been looking at gators for a while, but haven't decided if I need them or not. I know they are not essential to diving with a dry suit, but would they be a worth while investment to make wreck diving a bit safer?

I am taking DIRf the 19th of July.

Sincerely

Anders

Anders: does your drysuit fit you well or is there lots of "free" material? Do the boots fit your feet?

Scubaroo
July 3rd, 2003, 12:07 PM
I use gaiters with my drysuit, but that's because it has attached boots, and is a stock size that is loose fitting. In my case they are worthwhile, because they reduce the amount of gas in the legs.

If you've got a properly fitting drysuit, you probably don't need them, but they're preferable to ankle weights IMO.

globaldiver
July 3rd, 2003, 01:00 PM
Well I have been diving with a dry suit since 1998, and do not use ankle weights. I have a custom DUI CF 200 tech suit, so I guess I probably do not need the gators.

I was just wondering if some people use them anyway for added benefit to prevent air travelling to the legs if going head first into a wreck opening or similar.
The Rock boots on my suit prevents air to travel to the feet, and I guess that may be good enough.

The probable answer is that I do not need them, and that is propably why I have not made myself to purchase them yet...

sincerely

Anders

globaldiver
July 3rd, 2003, 01:05 PM
..head first into a wreck opening or similar...


I meant going vertical/head down into a wreck opening...

Anders

Arnaud
July 3rd, 2003, 01:12 PM
globaldiver once bubbled...
Well I have been diving with a dry suit since 1998, and do not use ankle weights. I have a custom DUI CF 200 tech suit, so I guess I probably do not need the gators.

Exactly!


...The Rock boots on my suit prevents air to travel to the feet, and I guess that may be good enough...

Apparently, some DIR divers consider that Rock boots are not DIR...

globaldiver
July 3rd, 2003, 01:21 PM
Apparently, some DIR divers consider that Rock boots are not DIR...



Now on what grounds would that be the case?

Anders

Arnaud
July 3rd, 2003, 01:24 PM
globaldiver once bubbled...


Now on what grounds would that be the case?

Anders

The two main critics are the lack of flexibility in the ankle and the risk of entanglement with the laces.

Just to be clear, I'm just repeating what I have heard and read. I am not a cave or wreck diver. I can see a problem with the laces in some situations, though.

As a recreational diver, I enjoy my Rockboots very much, especially for shore diving.

globaldiver
July 3rd, 2003, 01:46 PM
Hmm. .. The laces are pretty well hidden in the new type of rock boots, but I guess there could possibly be a minimal risk of entanglement. Well that would be a point where I would not follow DIR gear configuration, if that is a generally accepted opinion. Diving and moving around with boots is far more stable and comfortable compared to the other DUI option.

I guess I will find out on the DIRf class later this month.

Thanks for the input

Sincerely

Anders

Braunbehrens
July 3rd, 2003, 03:41 PM
You don't need the gators. They'll teach you to dive the suit with very little gas in it.

I don't think they'll make you take off your rock boots, but don't be surprised if the laces somehow keep getting tangled in various things during the class.

Another option for boots is to put wet suit booties over the drysuit socks.

globaldiver
July 3rd, 2003, 03:52 PM
Thanks for the advice, I will make an effort to make the laces on my boots as snag free as possible.

The Turtles fits really well with my boots, and I will stay with that configuration unless I learn something drastically better.

Anders

Mverick
July 4th, 2003, 03:29 PM
With a single I have no problem with my feet getting alot of air. With LP duals I still have no problem. With my HP 100 fabers doubled up. I might go to gators. So much weight centered on my back that when my feet get high, they get floatie.

Don't know if this is common. But for me, It has happened. I can still control it. But it's a pain. And my drysuit fits very well...... Haven't gotten gators yet. But I just might if they are there and I am to....

So, something else to think about..... Gators aren't bad. Sometimes you need them. Sometimes you don't....

Wood
July 6th, 2003, 09:51 AM
I've found them highly beneficial. I have a DUI FLX so the top is TLS and the bottoms are Crushed Neo. When holding solid trim, the air inevitably finds it's way to my calves; air travels up with regularity. The gators don’t keep the air out completely, they do restrict the flow in and limit the amount that collects there. It might be worth the investment to try them, I find they make a big difference.


Woody

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