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Skull
February 20th, 2010, 09:03 PM
Well the 96 2 stroke Merc 150XL finally gave up the ghost ... so I bought a new Evinrude E-TEC 150HP outboard to replace it ... being installed this week.

Anyone own one ?

Pros and Cons please?

A bit pricey I guess considering ... but not too many good reviews on the OptiMax ..

deeper thoughts
February 21st, 2010, 10:54 AM
All the reports I hear are positive.

Paleface
February 26th, 2010, 12:42 PM
All I hear is good things also. A good place to post this question would be on thehulltruth.com

Cave Diver
February 26th, 2010, 12:48 PM
Jump!

Oh. Nevermind...

Skull
February 26th, 2010, 03:55 PM
Jump!

Oh. Nevermind...

I already did ... the Hull is 14 yrs old never put on the rocks out here ... Hope I get another 14 yrs out of this motor.

Straight out of the box with new controls and accesories ... Happy birthday to me and my wallet!

Chuck Tribolet
February 26th, 2010, 05:46 PM
If I had to replace my outboard (carbed 2-stroke '97ish Evinrude) it would
be with a 90HP eTec.

Skull
February 27th, 2010, 09:47 PM
If I had to replace my outboard (carbed 2-stroke '97ish Evinrude) it would
be with a 90HP eTec.

What size prop ? w/ 90HP .. I read somewhere that you are partial to 90hp 2 stroke OB.

Mfg of my boat recommends a 150 HP (max for the design is 175 which I feel is too much motor for this boat (201 ProLine Cuddy---fiberglass)) I really liked my Merc but it was a gas hog ...ample top end speed for SoCal fishing , but when I was loaded up with divers w/ doubles she struggled in moderate swells. Very dry ride but reality is it's tough to do more than 22-25 kts while on a fish trip ... 12-15kts w/ 3 divers... ride is just too rough.

Mechanic recommends I try a 17" prop on the new motor ... the old Merc had a 19" ...any suggestions?

Skull
March 5th, 2010, 05:00 AM
Well lads and lasses I got my boat back today .... nice to see my wallet just lost a bit of weight ...course being an el nino yr it is going to be storming all weekend .. right on up till April ....

Who was the moron who said it doesn't rain in SoCal ... surf has been unbelievably good ... for surfers! We divers and boat owners can only gaze out over the surf line and wonder what it would be like to get out on the water again.

Sean222
March 11th, 2010, 01:15 PM
Well the 96 2 stroke Merc 150XL finally gave up the ghost ... so I bought a new Evinrude E-TEC 150HP outboard to replace it ... being installed this week.

Anyone own one ?

Pros and Cons please?

A bit pricey I guess considering ... but not too many good reviews on the OptiMax ..
A friend fo mine just bought a 115 hp e-tec. Unfortunately he had to put into winter storage before he even go to run it.

deeper thoughts
March 11th, 2010, 08:25 PM
What size prop ? w/ 90HP .. I read somewhere that you are partial to 90hp 2 stroke OB.

Mfg of my boat recommends a 150 HP (max for the design is 175 which I feel is too much motor for this boat (201 ProLine Cuddy---fiberglass)) I really liked my Merc but it was a gas hog ...ample top end speed for SoCal fishing , but when I was loaded up with divers w/ doubles she struggled in moderate swells. Very dry ride but reality is it's tough to do more than 22-25 kts while on a fish trip ... 12-15kts w/ 3 divers... ride is just too rough.

Mechanic recommends I try a 17" prop on the new motor ... the old Merc had a 19" ...any suggestions?

I took a 20ft pro line cuddy for a test ride and was impressed. 3-4footers and we felt it but very doable

m.taylor
March 14th, 2010, 10:03 PM
A friend of mine has a 150 E-Tec on their ski boat, it's scary quick.

Underwater Ogre
March 15th, 2010, 10:32 PM
Well the 96 2 stroke Merc 150XL finally gave up the ghost ... so I bought a new Evinrude E-TEC 150HP outboard to replace it ... being installed this week.

Anyone own one ?

Pros and Cons please?

A bit pricey I guess considering ... but not too many good reviews on the OptiMax ..

AHHH...I am banging my head against the desk!! I wish I would have seen this thread before...
We have had nothing but problems with all the E-Tecs we bought...all 16 of them!! Some I couldn't even sell used, we have to trade them in on Honda for pennies on the dollar.

The common problems were:

150 - blowing heads, electrical ignition
200 - blowing heads
90 - electrical problems...
1 - 150 was towed a total of 2 hours for every 15 minutes of run time. Good thing we put it on the hard after 4 hours...the service shop never did figure out what was wrong with it. We finally gave up and installed a Honda 115.

Of course being commercial they limited our warranty to the door. Our average is 1000 hours a year on a motor of course some being more and some being less....not all have a 1000.

We traded out all them for Yamaha, Honda and Suzuki, depending on what the dept. preference was.

I have to say "bang for the buck" is the Suzuki.

Good luck...I hope you have better luck then we did. I know we will never buy another Evinrude.

U/O

Skull
March 19th, 2010, 11:42 PM
Ok folks ... took her out for the first sea trial on the San Diego Bay ... slight wind chop and a few Navy ships coming and going laying out some big wake/bow waves.

E-Tec is ~ 99% quieter than my old Merc 2 stroke 150 at idle. At 3500 rpm it was humming nicely ... plenty of torque. I down sized the prop from a 19 to a 17" for increased torque at the expense of speed. Reasoning is I can't safely get above 20 knots with all my gear on board so why not have more torque to move all that dive gear in moderate swells.

At 4500-5000 rpms she was amazingly smooth and strong ... and 66% quieter than my Old Merc.
Got to around 27-30 knots and she started to slip so I backed it down to 24 knots and that is definitely the sweet spot for my hull and E-tec ... She jumps out of the hole like a frog on a asphalt driveway ..amazing compared to my Old Merc.

Underwater Ogre
March 21st, 2010, 08:08 AM
Great to hear..."crossing my fingers and toes for you":D

U/O

Skull
March 21st, 2010, 03:32 PM
Great to hear..."crossing my fingers and toes for you":D

U/O

after I cut the check for the install and then read your experience with them ... I am crossing mine too.. However I gotta tell you an encouraging thing happened on the way to the ramp ... drove past a Vessel Assist Boat with Twin E-Tec 225 on it ...asked the skipper what he thought about his E-Tecs ... he said they have had no out of the ordinary maintenance issues with them ... so that made me breath a sigh of relief.


Course for them what is ordinary maintenance issues ....yikes???

Hank49
April 2nd, 2010, 09:41 AM
I'm a little late on this one. I have a 2006 90hp Etec, saltwater edition which means a few parts are stainless steel instead of cast iron, or so I read. It's mounted on a 25 foot, high bow skiff.
Mechanically the motor has been flawless. Never had a problem so far. Did change the tilt switch that's mounted on the motor when I saw a line of rust coming out of it.
The one thing that's not good is the paint on the lower unit. Maybe because I put a stainless prop? But the paint has bubbled in many places. I've since replaced the SS prop with the stock one but the bubbling continues.
I researched the 90 hp in 06 before I bought. At that time I read that the bigger ETECs were having problems but no one had anything bad to say about the 90.

Hank49
April 2nd, 2010, 09:47 AM
What size prop ? w/ 90HP .. I read somewhere that you are partial to 90hp 2 stroke OB.

Mfg of my boat recommends a 150 HP (max for the design is 175 which I feel is too much motor for this boat (201 ProLine Cuddy---fiberglass)) I really liked my Merc but it was a gas hog ...ample top end speed for SoCal fishing , but when I was loaded up with divers w/ doubles she struggled in moderate swells. Very dry ride but reality is it's tough to do more than 22-25 kts while on a fish trip ... 12-15kts w/ 3 divers... ride is just too rough.

Mechanic recommends I try a 17" prop on the new motor ... the old Merc had a 19" ...any suggestions?

Get a prop that allows the motor to hit its maximum rated rpms at the normal, or average load at which you operate.
Sounds like the old Merc could have used a 17 if it was dogging with a 19. If your prop is a little small, you can always just throttle down when running a light load. If it's too big and you can't hit max rpms, you're going to put more stress on your motor.

Chuck Tribolet
April 3rd, 2010, 10:57 AM
I'm a little late on this one. I have a 2006 90hp Etec, saltwater edition which means a few parts are stainless steel instead of cast iron, or so I read. It's mounted on a 25 foot, high bow skiff.
Mechanically the motor has been flawless. Never had a problem so far. Did change the tilt switch that's mounted on the motor when I saw a line of rust coming out of it.
The one thing that's not good is the paint on the lower unit. Maybe because I put a stainless prop? But the paint has bubbled in many places. I've since replaced the SS prop with the stock one but the bubbling continues.
I researched the 90 hp in 06 before I bought. At that time I read that the bigger ETECs were having problems but no one had anything bad to say about the 90.
Is the boat kept in a slip or on a trailer? How are the zincs?
I'd be looking for an electrolysis problem.

Hank49
April 4th, 2010, 09:37 AM
Is the boat kept in a slip or on a trailer? How are the zincs?
I'd be looking for an electrolysis problem.

Stays out of the water under my house and is washed thoroughly after every use. It started bubbling within a year. I put the ss prop on as soon as I got it though.
I scrape the zinc every few months. It's not shrunken down really small.
I thought maybe the zinc stopped working because of the reaction with the ss prop? But my Yamaha didn't do that. ??
Also the stock prop, which I kept as a spare in my console had also peeled really badly after a couple years.

Skull
April 4th, 2010, 02:45 PM
I had the shop install a 17" ss prop. Soon as the weather breaks and I can get time to dive I'll report back with the boat loaded ...

Again the trial on the bay was encouraging ...but it was just me and no real load on the motor.

Joe21
April 12th, 2010, 08:24 PM
I heard theryre hit or miss I think the most important thing is to treat your fuel with some kind of ethanol treatment. The ethanol is giving me hell with my hpdi's 4k later and im still having problembs. This ethanol is bad and it will bond with water and stem clean the inside of your cyliders.

davidsua04
July 24th, 2010, 01:36 PM
ethanol is a problem for all the manufactures. not just one of them so in that case, were all screwed. i work at a johnson, evinrude, merc, and yamaha dealership.

in regards with the 150 etec, GOOD LUCK......i have a 225 right now that needs a powerhead. another customer went through 2 lower units and 3 powerheads in 1 1/2 years and then sold it. trying not to scare you but ive seen alot of issues with them. injector problems and lower units are the biggest issues right now but they have gone with a bigger gear set in the lower unit that is suposed to fix their gearcase issues, so ive been told. injectors are still an issue. the blocks themselves are the same as ages ago back when it was evinrude/johnson and they seem to hold up ok if the injectors would stop failing. suzuki is the best "bang for the buck" NOT NECASSARILY the best in realiability though. they seem to have a problem with cylinder glazing (cylinder walls get a coating on them and the the engine wil not build the right compression, engine wont start), only seems to happen within the first 20-50 hrs so after that your ok. Verados (mercs) you cantr give me one!!! optimax seems to be holding its own and boosts the best fuel economy, period. if have ran the same boat with the 4 engines myself and the opti gets a hair better than the 4 strokes. yamaha 4-strokes and HPDI's seem to be the best. yamaha is unleashing a new 4-stroke thats going to smash it all though, 4-stroke naturally aspirated (no super or tubro charger) lighter than the 2-strokes on the market NOW, better holeshot than the HPDI, more top end torque. if you want to know what engnine is the most realible, go to a marina on the water and you will see 75% is yamaha.

im not a spokesperson for yamaha, its just the truth.... i wish you the best of luck on that ETEC, i just believe youll be saying what i hear about them, its in the shop more than its used.

there "3 year no maintance", read the fine print, if it goes in saltwater, they recommend a yearly schedule.

rexwang
August 9th, 2010, 02:48 PM
i have a 96' evinrude 88 2 stroke. it hasnt let me down, yet, but im wondering why you chose to go with a 2 stroke vs a 4 stroke?

from what i see, hear, feel, my next motor is going to be a yammy 4 stroke. dont get me wrong my 'rude 88 is kick ass, but it can still get better.

deeper thoughts
August 9th, 2010, 03:08 PM
I agree about Yamaha. I have the 250 4 stroke. It gets filled with 89 octane(10pct ethanol) and it runs like a charm

davidsua04
August 18th, 2010, 09:38 PM
2 stroke by design is incredible over a 4 stroke. it will hit twice as many times as a 4-stroke. simply put it has an enormous amount of low end torque (needed to get on plane) where as the 4-strokes :( then you have to account for the weight. 2 reasons you WONT see a fourstoke on a bass boat. offshore rigs like fuel economy and the realibility of the 4-stroke. only real downfall is when that 4-stroke breaks------- $$$$$$ had a warranty 4-stroke leave today, over $10,000, had to put a new powerhead and various midsection parts on.

mitsuguy
September 15th, 2010, 04:30 PM
hate to say it, but gotta echo the reports of issues with the E-tecs... we just got back a 60 hp Evinrude from the shop after a $4000 bill for a bent shaft... Said we overloaded it, but I'm not so sure how that works - 60 hp should push 60 hp worth of weight...

We also have a 75 hp E-tec sitting on a spare boat on the hard because the shop it was purchased from couldn't get it to run right either... good chance it needs a powerhead or injectors, but who the hell knows - for us, its easier and cheaper to buy new, especially after the expensive bill on the 60... When they do run though, they run great... We, too, got the shaft (literally) because we use them in commercial service... We also put about 1000 hrs a year on them.

We've had the best luck with the Tohatsu's, which are essentially Honda's... If I were to buy new (and it was my money), I would be buying a Honda outboard... The Tohatsu's we have probably have close to 8000 hours - at only 5 years old, because we had to use them more often than the newer E-Tecs that just sat waiting to get fixed... Both run beautifully - the 70 is a little tricky to get started, but once warm it runs amazingly...

saxplayer1004
September 15th, 2010, 07:53 PM
Where I was working this summer is similar, had the Etec 75's and were putting bout 1000 hours on them a year. Great when they ran, but were a PITA to fix and expensive to boot... The Johnson 70hp's ran faster than they did most of the time. Other problem is the spark plugs are junk and there are no real aftermarket ones out there..


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