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D M I
August 18th, 2003, 12:45 PM
Hello
I heard there was wreck off of Jackson's point lake Simcoe called the Enterprise, which was written up in Diver magazine a few years back, does any one have the GPS Q's for this wreck.
Cheers
D M I
simcoediver
August 18th, 2003, 04:47 PM
Yes the Enterprise is out there somewhere off the west side of Georgina Island out from Jacksons Point.Apparently its location is being kept secret due to its historical status. I have been trying for 2 years by talking to different people and going through the archives at the library to get a location and the best I can get is to 1. Get a marine chart of Lake Simcoe 2.Draw a line between Jacksons Point and Sibbald Point 3.Using 3 equal sides draw a triangle the bisect point is supposed to be where the Enterprise is located.I have gone over it dozens of time with my boat sonar and have not seen anything, So yes it would be wonderful if someone out there has GPS coords. Please let me know.
D M I
August 18th, 2003, 05:00 PM
Hi
From what I know this wreck is only sitting in 35 feet of water and shouldn't be that hard to find. A good set of Farallons and you should be able to pick her easly. Lucky I have three and a team of well equiped divers with OTS coms to find her. A fish finder is great for fish but lacks the electronic sensitivity to pick up a wreck laying in silt. This would be a great end of season project find her and tag her.
D M I
Diving Machines Int
simcoediver
August 19th, 2003, 06:48 PM
DMI your suggestions and ideas are excellent,however Farellans are expensive therefore I dont have one.But I do have a boat and an extra dive buddy and myself would be more than willing to help out if you decide you want to under take this project.One word of warning, The location that I said of it being in the general area of the bicected triangle is from an unreliable source , but 2 or 3 people have also told me the same general location.You know,It would be so much easier if they or whoever is keeping the secret would just reveal it.It would surely help the tourism of Jacksons Point.
cse
August 19th, 2003, 08:25 PM
simcoediver, if you are planning any diving in Jackson's Point for the wreck and need any help or have room on the boat, I live in the area and would like to be a part of the find.
D M I
August 19th, 2003, 08:34 PM
Hi
Yes! I have full intentions of finding this wreck and running a juged line to her just below the surface. I will probably start looking for her in Sept. I have the all the scooters and tools needed including my sub. She will be found for all to enjoy.
D M I
Ping me in Sept.
Scuba Duffer
June 19th, 2004, 10:57 AM
Digging up an OLD thread I found while researching possible dive site on Simcoe.
We have a 30ft power based out of Lefroy. If anyone wants to put together a serious search party for this project, we'd be interested. Sure would be a cool project for SB'ers.
Groundhog246
June 19th, 2004, 04:02 PM
Does that mean DMI didn't find her? Come to think of it, haven't seen him post in a long time either. Maybe he got tired of us.
CDN ff
June 19th, 2004, 04:50 PM
Digging up an OLD thread I found while researching possible dive site on Simcoe.
We have a 30ft power based out of Lefroy. If anyone wants to put together a serious search party for this project, we'd be interested. Sure would be a cool project for SB'ers.
Sounds like a great plan!!
Scuba Duffer
June 19th, 2004, 11:36 PM
Well, all the research I have done has yeilded no results. I keep reading it is out there and it has been located, but, no one is saying where it is.
I'm sure going to be looking all the info I can find and see if I can locate her. Geeze - maybe I need to buy that pretty nifty sonar sensor for my GPS station!! From what I've read - the sonar sensor for the Garmin 2010 would be advanced enough to see a wreck on the bottom.
Groundhog246
June 20th, 2004, 11:51 AM
I've gone over wrecks with a regular fishfinder and had no problem picking them up off the bottom (Lottie Wolf and Marquette to be exact). The problem is the rather narrow search area. Normal fishfinder has about a 15 degree beam (7.5 each side of vertical). So in about 40 feet of water, you're seeing a strip about 6 feet wide. So you need to be directly over the wreck to "see" it. In 100 feet of water you're covering a bit more area, but still not very wide related to the size of Lake Simcoe. So if you assumed a structure 20 feet wide (I don't know how big this vessel was), you'd have to run parallel searches every 25 feet or so, to have a reasonable chance of passing over and seeing something. That's right at the limits of GPS accuracy for a standard consumer unit.
Not saying don't search, just offering guidance. I used to sell and install this kind of equipment to commercial fishing vessels.
Scuba Duffer
June 20th, 2004, 01:12 PM
Interesting stuff. I guess the best method would be to get a few boats involved and then scan in formation.
For the time being, Simcoe Diver was kind enough to PM a bunch of GPS co-ordinates forsome wrecks in Simcoe. Plus, now I've got an airplane to find too!!!!
NorthernMelody
June 21st, 2004, 02:41 PM
Interesting stuff. I guess the best method would be to get a few boats involved and then scan in formation.
For the time being, Simcoe Diver was kind enough to PM a bunch of GPS co-ordinates forsome wrecks in Simcoe. Plus, now I've got an airplane to find too!!!!
Care to share :-) I'd be willing to help out with the search as well, though I don't have a boat, I can donate time.
I've not been to Jackson Point but am hoping to in the near future...hey Groundhog246??? ;) You going any time soon?
CDN ff
June 21st, 2004, 04:34 PM
Care to share :-) I'd be willing to help out with the search as well, though I don't have a boat, I can donate time.
I've not been to Jackson Point but am hoping to in the near future...hey Groundhog246??? ;) You going any time soon?
Hmm.... underwater search? Where do I sign up??????? :-)
Scuba Duffer
June 21st, 2004, 06:36 PM
Well, Mrs Duffer has informed me she is not interested in the cold dark depths of Simcoe, so, I may need some interested buddies to look for some of these wrecks and especially the airplane!!
CDN ff
June 21st, 2004, 10:12 PM
Well, Mrs Duffer has informed me she is not interested in the cold dark depths of Simcoe, so, I may need some interested buddies to look for some of these wrecks and especially the airplane!!
I'm very difficult to convince. OKay, okay, STOP ALREADY,... you talked me into it....
NorthernMelody
June 22nd, 2004, 05:53 AM
I'm very difficult to convince. OKay, okay, STOP ALREADY,... you talked me into it....
Yah twist my rubber arm a little further...owww...(grimace)...okokok...I give in :eyebrow:
Let me know...if I'm not on a course I'll try and drag my butt down there :-)
aquaoren
June 22nd, 2004, 12:09 PM
I may be interested in joining you too if my schedule will allow it. :D
Scuba Duffer
June 22nd, 2004, 03:20 PM
LOL!! Obviously lots of interested people to join me!!
I have a 30ft Wellcraft Mid Cabin Cruiser that Would Probably accomodate 4 with gear fairly well. Better with 2 teams of 2 so 2 can stay up while 2 are down.
If and when I need folks, I'll post a thread a few days in advance.
FreeFloat
June 22nd, 2004, 03:51 PM
Me an' my 10W HID at your disposal........... :eyebrow:
Groundhog246
June 22nd, 2004, 05:26 PM
I would also be interested, not sure about my 'regular' buddy. If it helps, I'm also familiar with boat handling (yep, power boats too) and anchoring.
Scuba Duffer
June 22nd, 2004, 05:29 PM
LOL!! Maybe I should just start a charter business on the side!!!! :crafty:
aquaoren
June 22nd, 2004, 06:00 PM
LOL!! Maybe I should just start a charter business on the side!!!! :crafty:
How much for a 2 tank dive ;)
Groundhog246
June 22nd, 2004, 09:37 PM
LOL!! Maybe I should just start a charter business on the side!!!! :crafty:
Do you do fills? :eyebrow:
NorthernMelody
June 23rd, 2004, 05:44 AM
Do you do fills? :eyebrow:
I AINT no cabin boy! (eerrr girl!) :05:
Eric__U
June 23rd, 2004, 07:47 AM
can the wreck in 80' be done from shore?
eric
simcoediver
June 23rd, 2004, 08:12 AM
NO!! Its in the middle of Kempfenfelt Bay about 1/4 mile from shore.
NorthernMelody
June 24th, 2004, 04:24 PM
Have we decided on a when for our search dives? I think it'll be lots of fun! I'll do my best to be there....time and money permitting.