But to the ladies amoung us...however few in the WOMENS section we all know when it comes down to it....men only have one way to cook....no matter how nice it smelt to start with...when it leaves the kitchen we have one colour on our plate (esp. with toast and sausages!) - black and cremated !!!
This came from another part of the board.
I have an important question ...
Should toast be nearly white, brown, dark brown or black!
As my nearest and dearest likes her toast just waved in front of the toaster and says its done, I like it so that you can see the colour.
Toast is not warm bread it is toasted to a golden brown colour.
Sausages need to be brown and not palid and uninterestingly salmonella laden.
This has to be the most pressing issue of today.
Iguana Don
October 3rd, 2001, 02:02 AM
As an aficionado of fine cuisine, I concur with your interpretation of the colour of toast, it should be that golden brown as to excite the visual aspect of toast as well as the pallet. Sausage should be of equal colour as to accent the toast and compliment the sunburst yellow of sunny-side-up eggs.
Hope this helps
Chef ID
Fishkiller
October 3rd, 2001, 05:07 AM
I was at a resturant and wanted to put katsup on my potatoes the chef almost had a heart attack, but as in all busineses the customer is always right.
we all know that the proper colour is golden brown but if your lady would like mostly warm bread, give her want she wants.
right correct or not
Just think of how your day has gone? and how your could've gone?
logic won't work on the XX members of this species.
ScubaBaby
October 3rd, 2001, 08:16 AM
Fishkiller....i was with you up till the sexist part about women not understanding logic...your walking on thin ice there hun....and i'll be the one with the sledge hammer watching you take a dip!!! :devilish:
Belushi....dearest....I have my toast golden...I just don't like having to scrap off the burnt bits to eat - thats all!!!
And I am sure most people would agree....charcoal burnt toast or sausages do not taste all that scrummy!
syruss32
October 3rd, 2001, 08:38 AM
Proper browning of toast. The actual process that happens to turn toast brown is called caramelization. With the following defining the PROPER color.
[KEHR-ah-meh-lyz, KAR-ah-meh-lyz] To heat sugar until it liquefies and becomes a clear syrup ranging in color from golden to dark brown (from 320° to 350°F on a candy thermometer). Granulated or brown sugar can also be sprinkled on top of food and placed under a heat source, such as a broiler, until the sugar melts and caramelizes. Caramelized sugar is also referred to as burnt sugar.
Now many of you will wonder what that has to do with toast, the reality is toast is bread and bread is laden with, yep you guessed it, sugar! The sugar is what causes it to become that glolden brown as it heats and comes to the surface of the bread it caramelizes.
So we have now solved the worlds problem for today.
Now ScubaBaby you are going to have to accept that Belushi loves you and some times you might have to settle for a few crusties on the toast, just smile and tell him you love him and get a dog to eat those scraps when he is not looking.
If you do so you will have learned rule #3,456 in the "I Wanna Be Married Forever" handbook which states:
"When your spouse cooks for you, politely try and eat all food stuffs given, even if slightly over cooked, under cooked, burnt, cinged or otherwise unperfect. What parts you cannot eat need to be hidden from view or fed to the dogs, then next time this item gets cooked, politely work to change the food substance to something more appealing, or offer 'other things' in exchange for going out to dinner"
Rick Murchison
October 3rd, 2001, 10:04 AM
When Admiral Rickover was in charge of the nuclear power program for the Navy, he personally interviewed and approved (or rejected) each candidate. One interview went like this:
ADM: "Ensign, I'm going to give you a problem to solve; I want to see how you handle stress."
Ensign: "Yes sir"
ADM: "Suppose, Ensign, you were newly married, and your bride fixed an apple pie for desert. When she brought you a slice of the pie and you tasted it, you found it to be inedible. What would you do?"
Ensign: "Well, Admiral, I'd jump up from the table, throw down my fork and say 'Honey, don't you *ever* buy another pie from that bakery'."
ADM: "Son, you're hired."
Rick
ScubaBaby
October 3rd, 2001, 11:14 AM
Syruss....hunny.....now after all the chats we've had you'd think you'd stick on my side here!!!
I never once stated Belushi overtoasted my toast - cause he doesnt make me toast - nor sausages for that fact. When I said what i did in a previous thread I was actually more thinking on my fathers cooking....however if Belushi believes I was talking about with without me actually saying it was him....then doesn't that say something about how he personally thinks he cooks !!!!
Rick - great story hun !! x
Butch103
October 3rd, 2001, 11:34 AM
Rick great story........2nd Fishkiller u are wrong ....sorry I 've owned my own business(es) for over 10 yrs and more often than not the customer is wrong, dead wrong and not even close.
As far as the toast........definitely close to the black stage , one step from charcoal,.......the sausages golden brown and the eggs poached, (got to cut down on the fat somewhere hehe) .
As far as the ladies Belushi you've got agreat one there, word of advice, let her believe she is right now and again and when she is wrong, say it in a way that she believes she is only wrong because someone change the rules on her, and din't advise her of such change.
Butch :Peace:
Rick Murchison
October 3rd, 2001, 04:41 PM
I see that some of you young lads need a little guidance...
First, you must always remember rule one: "If mama ain't happy, ain't *nobody* happy."
Rule two: "If, in an argument with your wife, you discover that you are right, apologize immediately."
Rule three: "Always tell her she's beautiful... especially when she isn't."
Rule four: "Rub her feet."
Happy to be of service, lads.
Rick
Tavi
October 3rd, 2001, 05:13 PM
Hi all,
22 years ago I told my wife that she didn't put enough meat on my sandwiches, She hasn't made me a sandwich since.
Now I am gratefull for whatever she fixes. I just say thank you and I eat it. :D:
Tavi
Hawk
October 3rd, 2001, 05:20 PM
Rick, nice reply.
Belushi, you may be an instructor for diving but you haven't even gotten to the classroom yet when it comes to what to expect after you proposed marriage! No matter how she prefers something, no matter how much you know better, that is the correct way of doing something! After being married for 14 years, I have made many mistakes which I will always have to live with over and over. (elephants have no memory at all compared to a wife!) No matter what you think is right, do it her way untill she says that it might be better another way.
Good luck!
Later, Hawk.
ScubaBaby
October 3rd, 2001, 05:50 PM
I am being made out to be ungrateful and mean here ;-0
Belushi....thank you for all the food you cook....however its presented is fine and lovely.
I now back down against all you evil men and will never make a passing comment about my fathers cooking again ! ;-(
joewr
October 3rd, 2001, 06:10 PM
Ladies and Gents,
Always remember that when it comes to food, art, and other matters involving any kind of subjective taste, the operative Latin phrase is, "De gustabus non desputandum est." Or in English, "To each his own."
That having been said, I will note that the English tend to serve their toast, whether pale white, toasty brown, or carbon black, COLD. They even have wonderful sterling silver toast holders that allow cold air to circulate amongst the slices, allowing them to cool even faster! Warm beer and cold toast: English contributions to Western Civilization!
However, to balance those there is the Magna Carta, jet engines, Isambard Kingdom Brunnel, salvation of the Elgin Marbles, "Amazing Grace", William Shakespeare, the Ploughman's Lunch, the words of Winston Churchill, "All Creatures Great and Small", William Blake, and Cornwallis' surrender at Yorktown. On balance, a fair trade!
On married bliss: the most useful words for both parties are, "I believe you are right."
Joewr...Friendship Ambassador to the World
Fishkiller
October 3rd, 2001, 06:41 PM
I have looked into the great abyss and spat into it's eyes.
any punishment you see fit to send my way will not be returned.
While you shouldn't judge the species by a few bad cooks, just think what the Microwave did to old fashion cooking with fire?
Butch you sell used cars?
try this link http://www.qualitydigest.com/july97/qmanage.html
Belushi you have a fine woman making her happy will give you more in return
Heads Up
October 3rd, 2001, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by Rick Murchison
I see that some of you young lads need a little guidance...
First, you must always remember rule one: "If mama ain't happy, ain't *nobody* happy."
Rule two: "If, in an argument with your wife, you discover that you are right, apologize immediately."
Rule three: "Always tell her she's beautiful... especially when she isn't."
Rule four: "Rub her feet."
Happy to be of service, lads.
Rick
No matter what your better half is wearing, no matter how long it has already taken her to get ready to go out, no matter how late she is making you, no matter how pissed off you are . . .
... her bum NEVER looks big in what she is wearing
Oh by the way Fishkiller, if you had come to my restaurant and tried to put ketchup on anything I had created for you, the restaurant door would not have had time to hit your arse as you exited my establishment!!
Fishkiller
October 3rd, 2001, 07:02 PM
Oh Jay I could not or would not put katsup on your food, however if there is a bottle on the table, tamotoes cover a multitude if imperfections. I would never ask for katsup if there was none to be seen.
it's ones own confidence in the chef, you offer katsup not very confident eh?
ScubaBaby
October 3rd, 2001, 07:04 PM
Head Up - I think i will be needing to come visit ur restaurant if i ever want food again!!! I wont use ketchup.......dont suppose to stock mayo do you !?
Heads Up
October 3rd, 2001, 07:05 PM
Thats good to hear Fishkiller - the last thing I'd want is your sauce splashed over my spuds!!
Heads Up
October 3rd, 2001, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by ScubaBaby
Head Up - I think i will be needing to come visit ur restaurant if i ever want food again!!! I wont use ketchup.......dont suppose to stock mayo do you !?
Spent most of my formative years as a chef before meeing Mrs Heads Up. Needless to say I still so all the cooking as I think she learned cooking 'The Belushi Way'!!
ScubaBaby
October 3rd, 2001, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by Fishkiller
Belushi you have a fine woman making her happy will give you more in return
Fishkiller, I take back all the bad things I have ever said about you !!!!! =-x hehe x
Heads Up......2 words....thin ice ! Thats what ur standing on hun !!! :)
Heads Up
October 3rd, 2001, 07:18 PM
Heads Up......2 words....thin ice ! Thats what ur standing on hun !!! :)
Best to live life on the edge!!
BTW, not on ICQ tonight?
TwoBitTxn
October 3rd, 2001, 11:10 PM
Being a Specialist with a Health dept and quite a cook in my own right I had to speak up....
Toast..Light brown with preserves
Sausage... Cooked to an internal temp of 155*F.. Salmonella is not the issue... Trichinella (a parasitic worm) is
Eggs should be cooked. salmonella is the issue
Tom
detroit diver
October 3rd, 2001, 11:24 PM
I just found this thread, but wanted to tell you that Rule #2 was great!!
Belushi
October 4th, 2001, 01:13 AM
Just for all of you who do actually need to know,
We are both going through compromise.
So, I cook the toast pasty white and she eats my spicy food (even though she hates it.)
(Having lived in Thailand and Malaysia for so long, I am addicted to chilli, have to have it with everything)
I love her very much, so if she wants pasty white toast with 2cm (1 inch) of butter on it, then that is what my baby gets!
and I admit she has only ever once complained about something that I gave her that she ate, and I actually was expecting it, so it was not a big shock.
ScubaBaby
October 4th, 2001, 05:31 AM
Heads Up - I have just moved in with belushi - and in the process lost my computer to my dad - so at the moment I spend my time fighting with belushi to use his!!! (He keeps getting well annoyed that I keeping logging him out and me in hehe x ;) )
Tom...why is samonella not a worry in sausages??? I have never caught samonella except from some dodgy mayo stuff in spain. I thought samonella could also be caught from undercooked meats?
Belushi....the agreement was you tell me thats its spicy before i start eating it tho so i can have a glass of milk....you didnt last night and i cant taste my toast this morning!!!!! And i love u 2 hun! x
TwoBitTxn
October 4th, 2001, 10:20 AM
It is an intestinal organism found in birds, lizards, and turtles. Eggs can be contaminated with salmonella from the chickens. In the states there are egg farms that are certifed salmonella free. The mayo you ate was made with fresh eggs and not kept at a proper temp, thats how you got sick. Undercooked chicken and turkey are the most common means of contracting salmonella. Otherwise it would be a cross contamination issue. Sausage is most commonly made from pork and Salmonella is not an organism that is found in pork. Trichinella is a parasitic worm that is found in pork. In humans all it does in migrate into a big muscle and form a painful cyst.
Tom
syruss32
October 4th, 2001, 10:49 AM
Well it sounds like ScubaBaby and Belushi might survive the battle of the cooking after all. For a while it was quite dicey.
Just remember if the food is horrible smile and just say through clinched teeth, That is great! Next time you want to cook it let me know and I'll treat to McDonalds heheheh
gozumutti
October 4th, 2001, 12:37 PM
pssst syrus.....you want fries with that?
Butch103
October 4th, 2001, 12:47 PM
Fishkiller, used cars no ..........investments yes.......
ScubaBaby.........."Don't be angry with me darlin evin if u can't cook" hehe :devilish:
Butch :Peace:
syruss32
October 4th, 2001, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by Butch103
Fishkiller, used cars no ..........investments yes.......
ScubaBaby.........."Don't be angry with me darlin evin if u can't cook" hehe :devilish:
Butch :Peace:
I think she can cook, she can clean, she can bring home the bacon, I think she is snookering Belushi into a false sense of her blondhood hehehehe
You go Girl!
ScubaBaby
October 4th, 2001, 07:49 PM
It was actually samonella that caused my Hymolitic Ureamic Sydrome...well HUS piggy-backed the samonella when i was 3 - hence why I am currently sueing the holiday company! ;)
Syruss, your spot on hun - I can cook - took a Food Tech course at secondary school...not sure what that is over in the us - but i can cook....its just belushi likes spicy food and i dont cook spicy...i try not to eat it - but i dont get a choice anymore!!!!
syruss32
October 4th, 2001, 07:56 PM
I knew it scubababy! It is so hard to be so damn good all the time, but I manage well hehehehehhe
Butch103
October 4th, 2001, 08:35 PM
I have no doubts u are wise in the culinary ways..........as u appear to be wise in the way of life........
Butch :Peace:
TwoBitTxn
October 4th, 2001, 10:30 PM
Was that the bad Mayo you got?
Normally HUS is caused by E. coli
I don't have my reference stuff here. Its all at my desk at work.
Tom
ScubaBaby
October 5th, 2001, 05:02 AM
simply down to the fact I was 3 and on holiday in ibiza with my parents.
500 people in my hotel and the sister hotel came down with samonella - a lot was contaminated. I was ill for a very long time before I was diagnosed and I am very lucky it was pretty much caught on what I was told would have been my last day.
I was put of dialysis for 3 weeks and its left me with just under 50% normal kidney function. It causes some grief from time to time but I just tend to get on with it.
At the moment, I am just hoping this stupid courtcase will be over soon!!! Started it when I was 3, I am now 18 - there was a little break in the middle cause my parents couldnt keep paying all the money out....but its been going way to many years now!
