ScubaPro's new "D.I.R." system

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• Nov 29, 2010

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Apparently ScubaPro has registered D.I.R. ... Wonder what Halcyon thinks about that ...

X-TEK PURE TEK (D.I.R.®) SYSTEM - SCUBAPRO-UWATEC

I don't, personally, think anyone who's taken a real DIR class would buy one of these SP rigs ... there's way too many alternatives available that wouldn't require modification to conform to DIR standards.

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NWGratefulDiver:

Apparently ScubaPro has registered D.I.R. ... Wonder what Halcyon thinks about that ...

X-TEK PURE TEK (D.I.R.®) SYSTEM - SCUBAPRO-UWATEC

I don't, personally, think anyone who's taken a real DIR class would buy one of these SP rigs ... there's way too many alternatives available that wouldn't require modification to conform to DIR standards.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

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Maybe that is the real reason for Halcyon removing the term from their equipment...

P.S. Bob, the link is not english...

 

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According to Bable Fish German to English translator - "D.I.R. is protected brand name of the Bts Europe AG "

 

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How would SP manage to 'steal' and copyright the term 'DIR'???

btw... that wing looks horrible...

 

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Sounds like this organization (not Scuba Pro) has registered the "D.I.R." brand name in Europe.

BtS® is the premier ambassador of the DIR® (Doing it Right) philosophy in Europe.

Startpage: BtS Europa AG

 

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• Nov 29, 2010

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How would SP manage to 'steal' and copyright the term 'DIR'???

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Andy, I've spent many thousands of dollars convincing German Courts that just because a German company registers a copyright doesn't mean it owns it! I doubt anyone would contest the trademark in Germany but if it is an EU mark, perhaps -- and if they tried to register it in the US, I'm sure there would be objections regarding prior usage!

 

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In any event, SP does not own the DIR logo, but was acknowledging the trademark on its web site.

But I will acknowledge that I know nothing about national vs EU laws, much less about copyright laws in this context.

 

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From my understanding, the DIR trademark was held by GUE???

Does that mean they have switched 'alliegance' from Halcyon to Scubapro??

This could be a self-inflicted 'black eye' for Scubapro... as the 'ownership' of the DIR trademark is commonly known amongst the tech diving community. That's a relatively small, very well informed community. Should this be some commercial 'jumping on the bandwagon', then the target market for this SP equipment could become very hostile.

 

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It's an ugly...uggllyy....uuuggglllyyy thing.

The wing looks an awful shape...what's with the 'horns'?

It looks very 'wide' for a single tank wing.

LPI is a danglesome nightmare.

1680 Den Nylon outer is far from the most robust on the market.

529GBP... heck, that's expensive for what it is.

I guess this is the time that the major manufacturers start to jump on the 'tech' bandwagon. I think it's a good thing that BP&W are becoming more popular amongst rec divers.... but something in me crys out with angst when I see the big companies ripping off the invention and pioneering of the 'little guys'.

 

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• Nov 29, 2010

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riguerin:

Sounds liike this organization (not Scuba Pro) has registered the "D.I.R." brand name in Europe.

BtS® is the premier ambassador of the DIR® (Doing it Right) philosophy in Europe.

Startpage: BtS Europa AG

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They are a dive shop that sells "DIR" equipment and they can tell ScubaPro what is and what isn't DIR about their gear?

Wow, I don't know too many discussions we've had here on SB about what is and isn't "DIR" where a consensus was reached about something's "DIR"-ness.

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Greg