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Sideways
March 1st, 2011, 11:11 AM
I recently upgraded my atmos ai (console) for an aeris elite t3. So I'm sitting there working through the manual, and started thinking. Why does this actually have to be physically on my wrist? I'm a photographer, so why can't I mount it on my rig? which is sizable. Or mount it to my BC? This is my thinking, and PLEASE tell me if I'm missing something. I've been known to occasionally miss the glaringly obvious....:eyebrow:
Pros
1. On my rig I could position it to where I can basically see it at all times
2. Don't have to worry about banging my wrist, and the watch face.
3. No bulky-ness on my wrist
Thoughts.....
As long as it's secured properly, I'm not worried about losing it. My rig is double strapped too my BC, so it's not going anywhere. At the farthest I could get my rig out in front of me I'm still in range of my tank transmitter.
I've never noticed anyone actually doing this, so I figure I'm missing something???
Thanks for any ideas, inputs, or thoughts you might have!:D
Doppler
March 1st, 2011, 11:28 AM
that's when you need to be watching your computer... no? The wrist is conveniently attached to the end of your arm, which is extended in front of your face (assuming a horizontal attitude).
Of course, you and others may have an argument to counter this, but you asked and that's the reason.
Sideways
March 1st, 2011, 11:44 AM
that's when you need to be watching your computer... no? The wrist is conveniently attached to the end of your arm, which is extended in front of your face (assuming a horizontal attitude).
Of course, you and others may have an argument to counter this, but you asked and that's the reason.
I think it's a valid point regarding ascent, Thanks Steve. As far as access/visability, my rig is always in front of me. Thinking about my body/arm positioning when I dive, I think I'd actually see the puter face more on my rig, than when I had my console and constantly had to reach for it too see the face, even on ascent.
muddiver
March 1st, 2011, 12:01 PM
Wrist mounted does not work well for double hose divers and rebreather divers. I tried it and found it was a pain, so I have a retractor for my display unit.
For standard scuba with a standard 2nd stage regulator on a LP hose the wrist mount is easier to check than a console or retractor mount. But, it's not like you have to glue the thing to your face, so a console or clipped off to your BCD is fine.
A plus is that I have seen many a erist mounted computer disappear during a dive for any number of reasons. I've never seen a console or retractor mounted unit get lost on a dive.
reefduffer
March 1st, 2011, 12:07 PM
Hey, here's an idea - attach the computer by a hose to your regulator, and clip it off to a retractor in your mid-chest area where you can see it by looking down any time you want. And hey, that hose could save the tank pressure transmitter expense and complexity. What will we think of next!
My hosed AI actually lies on my wrist with my arms crossed in front of me most of the time, where I can read it without moving anything but my head, but my hands/wrist are free when I need them to be, with the console pulled into my chest/abdomen.
We'll be told that retractors will fail and I'm gonna die. If mine ever fails (it's closing in on 100 dives now) I'll move the bolt snap tied to my console to a chest strap D-ring equivalent for the rest of the dive. But I'm strictly an OW recreational diver. If I was diving in confined spaces my concerns and care-abouts would be different, and I expect my console might not be the best configuration for that.
Akimbo
March 1st, 2011, 12:13 PM
You may be into something. Given Oceanic’s photographic roots (Oceanic Products), maybe they need to integrate the computer into the SLR housing’s display! ;)
Sideways
March 1st, 2011, 12:27 PM
My hosed AI actually lies on my wrist with my arms crossed in front of me most of the time, where I can read it without moving anything but my head, but my hands/wrist are free when I need them to be, with the console pulled into my chest/abdomen.
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Hmmm.... this is interesting.. Take it a step further maybe...and actually velcro strap the console to your forearm once in the water. As long as you had free range of motion. The whole reason I went too a wrist model was because my console, no matter how I tried get it as close too my chest/shoulder area, always seemed to hit bottom or reef. Being a photog guy, I'm a bottom dweller. Mind you though.... the only thing that hits anything on my set up in the past has been my console.... hence the change.
I agree, the possibility of Losing a wrist model is a major concern. That's one of the big reasons I started thinking about other options mounting wise. Mounted too the camera rig, in the position I'm envisioning, would leave it untouched/jarred during a dive. That could mitigate some of the most common reasons for loss.
Sideways
March 1st, 2011, 12:29 PM
You may be into something. Given Oceanic’s photographic roots (Oceanic Products), maybe they need to integrate the computer into the SLR housing’s display! ;)
No there's an idea! I loved the idea of the compumask... sadly though, it didn't fit me well, plus I have Rx lenses. HUD for a Photog is deff. an awesome concept :cool2:
HenrikBP
March 1st, 2011, 01:12 PM
I agree, the possibility of Losing a wrist model is a major concern. That's one of the big reasons I started thinking about other options mounting wise.
If your computer fits into one of Tobin's bungee mounts, that'd be a good option for wrist mount. If you lace the bungee right, you have pretty good insurance against loss.
https://www.deepseasupply.com/index.php?category=instruments
Henrik
muddiver
March 1st, 2011, 07:22 PM
I agree with the bungee mount, but you don't have to always go out and buy a special mount to bungee your computer. I just thread the bungee cords through the wrist strap connecting pins.
Akimbo
March 1st, 2011, 07:29 PM
You guys keep forgetting we are talking about a photographer here. It takes a crow bar or something with an awful lot of teeth to pry their heads away from the viewfinder! ;)
Doppler
March 1st, 2011, 08:23 PM
You guys keep forgetting we are talking about a photographer here. It takes a crow bar or something with an awful lot of teeth to pry their heads away from the viewfinder! ;)
LOL... yep. Photographers need a babysitter more than a computer... but that's a whole different story!
bkotheimer
March 1st, 2011, 09:27 PM
Hey Sideways..... I posted this exact same question on Wetpixel a while back, and a whole lotta photogs weighed in with some great advice:
Attaching your computer to your camera, Does anyone do this? (http://wetpixel.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=37400)
Sideways
March 1st, 2011, 09:30 PM
Hahaha..... yeah, we're pretty bad.:cool2: The bungee band is pretty cool, it might give me that extra security if I keep it on my wrist. I do appreciate the feedback all!!
paddler3d
March 1st, 2011, 10:08 PM
It is your computer, attach it where ever you want. I'd just suggest attaching it to your person and not something that you can drop.
I know that the possibility of you dropping your camera is slim, but I have seen it happen.
You camera can survive DCS w/o issue, you not so much.
Sideways
March 2nd, 2011, 11:23 AM
Great thread BK... I should have thought too check wetpixel :shakehead:
HenrikBP
March 2nd, 2011, 12:08 PM
I agree with the bungee mount, but you don't have to always go out and buy a special mount to bungee your computer. I just thread the bungee cords through the wrist strap connecting pins.
That'll work as far as having the ease of use of bungee, but it provides no back-up; if one pin pops out, both bungees come loose and you loose the computer.
If the "body" of the computer at the "pin" sites is thick enough, it may be possible to drill up the holes that the pins fit into. That way, instead of using the pins, you can thread thin bungee through those holes. Make one individual bungee loop for each side and you have a bungee mount for pennies :)
For an idea of how this would work, check out page 8 of the manual for the Liquivision Xen bottom timer.
Please note this advice is worth exactly what you paid for it, and I take no responsibility if you bugger up you computer by drilling holes in it.
Henrik