PADI Log Book Pages

[JDostal]

This isn't ENTIRELY DIY, but it's still pretty close.

I still use PADI dive log pages - I like them for the diving that I do. They are the ones that have the little graphs for multi-level and single level dives, exposure protection, water type, weight, start/ending psi, air/watr temp, time in/time out and a good liberal comments section. Everything I need and like. If I recall they are the ones out of the book that you would get with a PADI AOW class....

Anyway! I just filled up another book of 'em and was faced with paying $11.95 for another log book that fits 50 dives and I would split the pages part to fit into my logbook binder. Or...I could go to my local friendly office store (Staples, in my case) and have them make up a few for me.

They were able to fit four log book pages per 8.5"x11" sheet of paper. Two per side, double sided. They even had that somewhat glossy paper the log book comes in.

I had 100 sheets made, so 400 dives. Cut to size and three hole punched for like $16.50. So, for a few bucks more than the cost of a book for 50 dives, I got a log book for 400 dives. Not too shabby!

[Otter]

but posting a clear violation of Copyright laws is 'interesting'. Again, doubtful that the PADI Publishling Police will be knocking on your door....;)

[JDostal]

I 'spose.

Standard Disclaimer
These instructions are for instructional purposes only and are not intended for actual use. To do so is at your own legal risk.

There - I highly recommend against doing such a thing :D

[ShoalDiverSA]

For those of you that would like to customise your dive logs, I offer the following humble submission.

Use it, don't use it...:)

Cheers,

Andrew

[ShoalDiverSA]

By the way, I print the log sheet on A4 paper and then reduce it down to A5 while photocopying.

Much more manageable and fits into the various log files/folders that are available.

Cheers,

Andrew

[Walter]

Not only is it a violation of the law, it's also morally and ethically wrong. PADI has a right to profit from materials they develop. If you want to use their materials, you have a moral obligation to pay them for the use. If you don't want to pay them, develop your own.

[ShoalDiverSA]

Walter,



If you don't want to pay them, develop your own.


I believe that is what I did. The PADI dive logs did not include all the data I wanted to record, so I spent time drawing up my own logs in a wordprocessor. I did not photocopy or scan the original PADI logbooks. Granted, the PADI layout was my starting point, but I drew these up and added the information that is important to me. PADI does not have the copyright on the data which is important for a diver. They have the copyright on the original material they generate.

If, for example, I typed their training manuals verbatim into an electronic format, I have infringed on their copyright. If I typed my own dive training manual addressing issues such as DCS, SIT, sinus problems, depth, pressure, etc, which are also addressed in the PADI manual, this would not be a copyright infringement. The training manuals are attempting to achieve a common purpose, hence the similarities.

In the same way, as a diver I am interested in:

Date;
Weather;
Tank Volume;
Air Consumption;
Bottom Time;
Max Depth;
Average Depth;
Comments;
and so on....

in my dive log. If these happen to appear in a dive log that I create as well as the PADI version, so be it.

I do not condone people infringing on copyright. If you believe that my dive log format is an infringement, I will more than gladly delete my post.

I hope that I have made my position clear. And more importantly, I hope that I have not misinterpreted your post and flown off the bat unnecessarily.:(

Cheers,

Andrew

[JDostal]

Shoaldiver - cool, thanks!

[Walter]

Not being familiar with the PADI log book, I don't know if you have infringed on their copyright, but from your description, my guess is you haven't.

[JDostal]

Walter, if this thread worries you just delete it. It's not that important.

[Walter]

The thread doesn't worry me, it's an excellent topic. While Otter pointed out the legal issues of your action, I felt the moral/ethical implications are also important to understand. I have to live with myself and moral issues are not issues I care to have nagging me. I suspect others may also be concerned with moral issues.

[ShoalDiverSA]

Omicron once bubbled...
Shoaldiver - cool, thanks!

It's a pleasure. Hope you don't have to copy (c) material anymore.

:D

[JDostal]

Okay, I messed w/ the log page that ShoalDiver created a little bit. Here is my rendition.

[Jambi]

ShoalDiverSA and Omicron,
Both are great thanks for posting. This was exactly what I was looking for. Thanks.

Jambi

[ShoalDiverSA]

Good job, Omicron! You have been a busy chap...

Thanks for the improvements.

Cheers,

Andrew

[airbrnebkr]

You guys are pretty darn creative and computer savvy. thanks for the dive logs. Walter...lighten up brother. I think everbody here is adult enough to decide what fits their own moral and ethical obligations.

[SimonJ]

You could also try http://www.dive-logs.com/

This is a UK company, but assume that they ship all over the world. Have emailed the guy that runs it, and he is planning on offering a custom service soon, using a wizard.

Hope this is useful

[dvas]

i made this logbook to suit my dive with Aladin and Uwatec Datatrack and some info for UW photography. I have printed it on A5 paper in duplex mode an i am using it for over a year...

sasha

[kevjl2]

Come on all you super computer dudes and dudettes.....anyone have a dive log on Excel that does the calcs???? That would be awesome....convert it to Documents to go and put it on the PDA... I think we got something here...

[JDostal]

Shoaldiver - no problem on doing the other work. Thank's for posting the original, that kinda gave me the inspiration.

Kevjl - what type of calcuations are you looking for??? Calculating pressure groups???

[kevjl2]

Kevjl - what type of calcuations are you looking for??? Calculating pressure groups???

Yeah...kinda like the Godive software. You input you're depth, and bottom time and it tells you the PG. If it looked just like a Log page, the function key would put in the right info. (I think)

[ShoalDiverSA]

This seems like a good idea, though I don't know what the value would be of filling in your pressure groups after your diving day is finished. By then the data is purely academic. Unless you take your laptop to the beach with you and fill the data in between dives to determine your pressure group for planning your next dive, I can't see the use of the data.

The BIG issue here is going to be copyright. Whose tables would be used to populate the lookup table in the spreadsheet that your "auto" function would reference? If your dive table of choice is not copyrighted, then this is not a problem. PADI tables are copyright, so you would not be allowed to use them without evoking the wrath of a lot of people. (Omicron can tell you more about this :D )

It would probably then only require a little bit of macro programming or maybe you could get away with the HLOOKUP, VLOOKUP functions in Excel to achieve the desired output.

Maybe one day when I have nothing left to tinker with...

Cheers,

Andrew

[mita]

hey guys!
here's my own version of a divelog. Almost everything is marked with icons :) The palms trees are for surface interval and the hanger for exposure suit. Everything else is pretty much self explainable

cheers!
mita

[Cavenutz]

ShoalDiverSA and Omicron, Great job on your *Non Copy right infringing* Log book's! I liked them both and will be tweaking them for my personal use *Of course they will be Non Fringed*! I am a Trimix Cave diver and an Instructor and will add a few things that reflect the type of diving I do and post my version. This is off the subject I guess but does anyone have any *Non Copy right Infringing*
( :eek: Walter, Try to relax) Gas Mixing log's. I am a Certified Trimix and EANx blender and use a commercial blender log book but would like to know if anyone has come up with there own or even a spread sheet version that could do the math and keep a log as well?

Cavenutz

[Cavenutz]

Here's my modified version of the Log books. Feel free to modify and repost!

Cavenutz

[turnerjd]

Having just got my diving gear out of a box finding Omicrons .zip file with a reasonably similar pahe to mine was great.

Photocopies of photocopies of photocopies soon become unreadable

Excellent!

Thanks guys

Jon

[JDostal]

Glad you guys are liking 'em - keep posting the changes you make, it'll be cool to have a few different options.

[PRL]

My two cents

[Druid]

Here's my version

[mddolson]

Log books are a personal thing.
Attached are the sheets for my log book.
They fit the small 4" x 6" 6 ring binders.

I've included jpg, bmp and CorelDraw 8 formats.
Feel free to alter, or uses as is.

Mike D

[Diver Mike]

Omnicron,

Thanks for the work. I was in the process of making a dive log page similiar to what you have done and now there is no need.

Thanks again,

Mike...

[artw]

I made some changes to mddolson's bmp to suit what I record after a dive.. ascent rates, sac etc.

[Nessy]

Hi all

thought I would add my own donation to the log book pile. I find this one much more useful than many of the standard log books out there.

Cheers
Nessy

[ShoalDiverSA]

I needed to print more log today, so I decided to add some more details to my original logs based upon the ideas posted in this thread. It is a minor revision of the original.

Here is my newest submission in DOC and PDF format. The Acrobat file is pre-formatted to print 2-up on an A4 sheet.

Cheers,

Andrew

[Roymatroy]

Nessy. I searched the ENTIRE internet for a printable log book I can use instead of buying padi's 15 dollar replacement sheets. You have the best one! You win the www prize..

[H2Andy]

thanks guys... i'd been looking for something like this, and now i found it!

[diverdoug57]

Walter,



I believe that is what I did. The PADI dive logs did not include all the data I wanted to record, so I spent time drawing up my own logs in a wordprocessor. I did not photocopy or scan the original PADI logbooks. Granted, the PADI layout was my starting point, but I drew these up and added the information that is important to me. PADI does not have the copyright on the data which is important for a diver. They have the copyright on the original material they generate.

If, for example, I typed their training manuals verbatim into an electronic format, I have infringed on their copyright. If I typed my own dive training manual addressing issues such as DCS, SIT, sinus problems, depth, pressure, etc, which are also addressed in the PADI manual, this would not be a copyright infringement. The training manuals are attempting to achieve a common purpose, hence the similarities.

In the same way, as a diver I am interested in:

Date;
Weather;
Tank Volume;
Air Consumption;
Bottom Time;
Max Depth;
Average Depth;
Comments;
and so on....

in my dive log. If these happen to appear in a dive log that I create as well as the PADI version, so be it.

I do not condone people infringing on copyright. If you believe that my dive log format is an infringement, I will more than gladly delete my post.

I hope that I have made my position clear. And more importantly, I hope that I have not misinterpreted your post and flown off the bat unnecessarily.:(

Cheers,

Andrew

It looks almost exactly like the PADI log book, up to and including the basic layout. Now whether it is a copyright infringement or not would really depend on how much PADI wanted to push the issue. When dealing with a large corporation, always remember that most times their legal department can outspend you. However, that must be balanced with whether they think it is enough of a problem to seek a remedy. I would suggest removing the zip file, since copyright infringement with distribution is a touchier subject.

[ShoalDiverSA]

... If you believe that my dive log format is an infringement, I will more than gladly delete my post...

Due to the continued concerns voiced by members and in the spirit of the above undertaking, I have requested that Otter remove the attachments to my posts. There are many other divelog options still available on this thread. I would certainly not like to have either SB or myself dragged into a legal battle.

!!Kudos to Otter for his helpfulness.!!

Cheers,

Andrew

[velazques25]

In my opinon if you donot copy the graphics from the padi log book you aren't braking any laws but if you simply make a photocopy of it your are braking the law. You can get by this if you donot sell the copied material

[Otter]

Due to the continued concerns voiced by members and in the spirit of the above undertaking, I have requested that Otter remove the attachments to my posts. There are many other divelog options still available on this thread. I would certainly not like to have either SB or myself dragged into a legal battle.

!!Kudos to Otter for his helpfulness.!!

Cheers,

Andrew

There are lots of log pages out there. While I am not an attorney, I suspect a log page which is virtually identical in format to a copyrighted work would be an infringement. OTOH, there is a finite amount of information that one records about their dives and logical way of organizing it. Ultimately, I doubt it is in PADI's best interest to even mess with this type of thing. Copying their educational material would be a different thing.

[eth0ss]

I think the logs are great but do not give enough info for Nitrox and Multilevel diving. I think I will cutomise my own as I am tired of having to spend a fortune on log sheets. My Dive computer has all the info but does not print out for a log book. They should really look into that.


This isn't ENTIRELY DIY, but it's still pretty close.

I still use PADI dive log pages - I like them for the diving that I do. They are the ones that have the little graphs for multi-level and single level dives, exposure protection, water type, weight, start/ending psi, air/watr temp, time in/time out and a good liberal comments section. Everything I need and like. If I recall they are the ones out of the book that you would get with a PADI AOW class....

Anyway! I just filled up another book of 'em and was faced with paying $11.95 for another log book that fits 50 dives and I would split the pages part to fit into my logbook binder. Or...I could go to my local friendly office store (Staples, in my case) and have them make up a few for me.

They were able to fit four log book pages per 8.5"x11" sheet of paper. Two per side, double sided. They even had that somewhat glossy paper the log book comes in.

I had 100 sheets made, so 400 dives. Cut to size and three hole punched for like $16.50. So, for a few bucks more than the cost of a book for 50 dives, I got a log book for 400 dives. Not too shabby!

[jstuart1]

I modified the Log Book to have a checklist for visibility. Also made a couple of other minor mods.

[KYDan]

I ran out of log pages and remembered this thread. Did a search and looked at all the neat submissions. What a GREAT bunch of ideas.
:dazzler1:
Here is my take on the project. I liberally "borrowed" parts of pages I liked and made my own version. My complaint with the 5.5 x 8" small-page logs, is that there is not enough room in the comments area. I laid the page out so that you can duplex print the pages on standard US letter size paper (8.5 x 11"), trim, and punch for use in the "small" log books I prefer. I only get one dive's log per sheet, but life is a series of tradeoffs, I suppose.

You can leave the pages whole and use in a normal 8x5 x 11" notebook, too.

I put a prompt in the header to aid anybody who is not an experienced MS Word user. Click the VIEW menu and then choose HEADERS AND FOOTERS. Replace my prompt text with your name, if you like.

Enjoy, KYDan

[mr:-)]

Come on all you super computer dudes and dudettes.....anyone have a dive log on Excel that does the calcs???? That would be awesome....convert it to Documents to go and put it on the PDA... I think we got something here...

I am about 90% done with a log book in excel that will automaticly perform calculations and what not for 25 dives. It uses one worksheet page for each dive with an input page in the front to input start data (dive#, bottom time, average SAC, and whatnot). Each page automaticly updates with the current info and there is a page at the end that prints out a summary of those dives. The reason that it's not tracking more than 25 dives is that the guys at Micro say that most computers don't like to run excell spreadsheets over 36 pages and 25 seemed like a good number.

All of the calculations are worked out and it functions now, the last 10% is trying to get it to look pretty and include the info that I'm interested in. I'll post it when (if) I ever get it done.

:-)

[AmyJ]

Old thread... I know I know... :)

so... more log book questions... thanks for sharing so much stuff..... What is your preferred ? format?? (don't know if that's what I mean).

Several people have mentioned, but wondered if there were other thoughts....

3 ring binders?? what size? regular notebook? buying pre-printed log stuff? How do you keep your pages? Thanks from a newbie trying to get organized. :)

[AmyJ]

Also, do you worry about waterproofing??? Or just stick it in your bag??

[ShoalDiverSA]

Hi all

thought I would add my own donation to the log book pile. I find this one much more useful than many of the standard log books out there.

Cheers
Nessy

Nessy,

This log book is excellent. Do you perhaps have a more hi-res version to post? It would be great in PDF format as the quality of the graphics and text will be maintained. The version you posted is a bit fuzzy when printed.

Cheers,

Andrew

[2Tours N Iraq`]

Hello Everyone, thought I'd throw the dive log my brother and I created into the mix. There isn't any kind of cool pictures on it like a lot of the logs on here but there is a ton of useful information contained on it. I have it in Excel and Word formats so PM me with your contact info if you want a high res copy.
http://www.scubaboard.com/gallery/data/533/thumbs/Dive_Log.JPG (http://www.scubaboard.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=40768)

[Charlie99]

Also, do you worry about waterproofing??? Or just stick it in your bag??Although I've use a few logs that were waterproof, both ink and pencil tended to smear on the waterproofed paper.

What works for me is to leave the logbook in the car/hotel/home and just bring a waterproof notebook from http://www.riteintherain.com/ . Rough notes about the dive, tank pressures, e-mail addresses of divers that want photos of them I took, etc go into the notebook.

Later at home or the hotel I add the time/depth info from the computer and make an entry into a non-waterproof logbook. That logbook never goes onto a boat so it doesn't need to be waterproof.

[Firebrand]

Hello Everyone, thought I'd throw the dive log my brother and I created into the mix. There isn't any kind of cool pictures on it like a lot of the logs on here but there is a ton of useful information contained on it. I have it in Excel and Word formats so PM me with your contact info if you want a high res copy.
http://www.scubaboard.com/gallery/data/533/thumbs/Dive_Log.JPG (http://www.scubaboard.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=40768)
That's a kick-butt dive log you've got there! I think I'll use it too (considering I had a hand in making it)!

[scubapolly]

That's a kick-butt dive log you've got there! I think I'll use it too (considering I had a hand in making it)!


What I'm wondering is why you guys haven't shared this great creation with your favorite instructor (well your favorite instructor besides your dad of course) but your favorite instructor you've dove with in the last year none the less!

Polly

P.S. Blase, I finally made it out of Alabama!

[Bratface]

You could also try http://www.dive-logs.com/

This is a UK company, but assume that they ship all over the world. Have emailed the guy that runs it, and he is planning on offering a custom service soon, using a wizard.

Hope this is useful


I have ordered from dive-logs.com and got prompt service without any hassles. Their web site will convert the prices from Euros to US dollars by clicking the button.

[komi hunter]

Of course I use a dive computer so they are very basic

[AENeuman]

This my custom made log page with focus on having a large empty area for notes and sketches, yet contain as much information as possible in the header.
It contains all info that I am interested in, YMMV.
It is made in A6 format, 4 on each A4 paper.
Illustrator CS2 format, compatible with pdf.

http://www.rohlen.se/bilder/shagra2005/source/divelog.html

[ocrmaster]

Sweet! thanks Aeneuman...

[aushealer]

I 'borrowed' the original from someone here on SB {don't remember who}, them modified it for my needs. It's in Excel, and setup for 81/2 x 11 pages. Although one print creates four log sheets for 4 x 6 pages. Lots of comment space, and easily configurable.

Download, modify, dive and enjoy...

[yellowsub]

I had trouble opening the attached divelog files, maybe they have been removed.
Can someone kindly share their divelog page pls.

[Doubles]

I had trouble opening the attached divelog files, maybe they have been removed.
Can someone kindly share their divelog page pls.

This is a very old thread - not surprised that the attachments may have been removed

It's easy to create your own logs. If you have a word processor and a printer, you have all you need. There are also custom dive log companies on the web - just google "dive logs"

I didn't like any logs that I saw, so I created my own on the fly - didn't copy anyone's layout. Took what I had printed it out and took it to my local small town print shop. $35.00 later I had 200 nice logs on thick hard paper.

Cheers

-s

[firemedic1015]

I am also interested in the dive log pages if anyone would be willing to share. I cant get any of the files to work either.

[ianw2]

If you check with any local supplier of land surveying equipment/materials, they'll probably have packs of 8-1/2" x 11" "Write in the Rain"tm paper. Its a water proof paper that can be written on in pencil or pen. The paper is great for creating your own log books. Its a bit more expensive than plain paper...but...

Does anyone have a source for unlicensed clipart of dive suits, etc. as in AENeuman's log book page? TIA

Cheers!

Ian

[colby]

The attachments may not have come across cleanly when the servers got migrated.

Here's some that I have...

[divedadepths]

Thanks Colby! I wish i could open some of those old ones.....

[aushealer]

Here's an Excel spreadsheet, four log pages printed out on 8 1/2 x 11 paper on both sides. I'll also be changing them soon to reflect my new dive conditions.


Enjoy

[vondo]

Ok, I'll add mine to the pile. So far I've been using the standard PADI ones. They are the best readily available, but there were things I didn't like about it:

1. All kinds of space wasted for multi-level stuff plus, to some extent, it is geared towards table users.
2. Only enough room to really put in the dive site, not the location, etc.
3. The exposure checklist is a little limiting
4. If I want to do a map or write a lot or list animals in a table, there is not enough room. Plus the comment lines are too close together for my chicken scratch.
5. No Nitrox as pointed out.

I also checked out Dive-logs.com. Very nice, very cool site and starting with "Computer-Naturalist-Nitrox" I got something I thought was decent, but I still had some issues:

1. Cost. The $ to pound sucks and $50 (with shipping) for a reasonable dive log was too much.
2. Would have to order several sets to have the option of not having the 2nd page
3. Inflexible differentiation between comments/animal sightings/site map
4. Same problem as PADI with the dive site location
5. Only one temperature and the running dive time was not to my liking.
6. Have to choose either metric or imperial. I'm starting to dive in metric, but regardless your weighting is still determined by who owns the boat.

So I designed my own. The two PDFs attached have all three combinations of Log+extra page on the front and back of a page if they are printed double sided, the idea being that before you start you can decide if you need one page for the dive or two.

Comments are welcome, of course, especially on the drysuit section as I don't own one (yet?).

[TheGoast]

This isn't ENTIRELY DIY, but it's still pretty close.

I still use PADI dive log pages - I like them for the diving that I do. They are the ones that have the little graphs for multi-level and single level dives, exposure protection, water type, weight, start/ending psi, air/watr temp, time in/time out and a good liberal comments section. Everything I need and like. If I recall they are the ones out of the book that you would get with a PADI AOW class....

Anyway! I just filled up another book of 'em and was faced with paying $11.95 for another log book that fits 50 dives and I would split the pages part to fit into my logbook binder. Or...I could go to my local friendly office store (Staples, in my case) and have them make up a few for me.

They were able to fit four log book pages per 8.5"x11" sheet of paper. Two per side, double sided. They even had that somewhat glossy paper the log book comes in.

I had 100 sheets made, so 400 dives. Cut to size and three hole punched for like $16.50. So, for a few bucks more than the cost of a book for 50 dives, I got a log book for 400 dives. Not too shabby!

Have you tryed my program to print them.

Tim's Recreational Dive Log (http://www.tjengineering.co.uk/TimsDiveForum/forums/showthread.php?t=10)



Come on all you super computer dudes and dudettes.....anyone have a dive log on Excel that does the calcs???? That would be awesome....convert it to Documents to go and put it on the PDA... I think we got something here...

My Program works out pressure groups based on PADI tables

[vondo]

I updated mine again slightly. Most significantly adding a place for the SAC and a dive summary page similar to PADI's. The "Print" version is set up to print two to a page and printed on 44lb paper looks to be about perfect to fit in a PADI or similar three ring binder.

[burna]

In keeping with the free exchange of ideas and information on this site, here is my (hot off the press) divelog page.

Thanks to everyone for posting their examples here, it was a big help to me in designing my own page.

It's setup for double sided A5 printing.

I hope someone finds my page here equally helpful.

Cheers

[JDostal]

Crazy that this is still going after all these years.

I've moved to a new log format and figured that I would post what I am using these days. I needed a place to start tracking different gasses and deco schedules so this is what I came up w/ for my technical dive logging. I printed up a batch of 100 of them and they have been working out pretty well for me.

I still do recreational dives so I wanted the log to work for both types of diving which is why I've kept some of the fields for 10' stop and that sort of thing.

[highlandfarmwv]

I have made my own, too. I mostly leave blanks instead of having options to check., for example entry_________________ instead of listing options, then you can write "6' giant stride, 65' boat" I also include Dive op, weights, exposure protection,cost, air consumption. I can get 4 on a PADI-sized sheet front and back, which lets me put more in my book. I never have them signed, but I may stamp them at the dive op. Lots of room for comments.

[RAWalker]

but posting a clear violation of Copyright laws is 'interesting'. Again, doubtful that the PADI Publishling Police will be knocking on your door....;)

Actually I think you are incorrect.
Since the OP purchased the original pages the copies were made from he has the right under fair use to make copies for his/her own use. These copies can not legally be sold or used by others and if the OP is a "professional" using these pages to track his professional endevors would indeed violate copyright.:D

[diveat4850]

New to the SB, I am thrilled to find such useful information. I am about to finish off a PADI log book and I was considering making a personalized log sheet. The examples I have seen are great, however, I am in agreement with Highlandfarmwv and intend to dispatch with the icons and symbols. "Expose Protection:________________________________" is more versatile and accurate than a check by a hood.

Highlandfarmwv, could we see an example of you log page?

[amohseng]

Unfortunatly many attached files not working.

[merxlin]

Unfortunatly many attached files not working.

The last post in this thread is over 2 years ago.

[vondo]

The last post in this thread is over 2 years ago.

And paper dive log technology has advanced significantly since then? :D I made sure my link is still working. I'm still using almost exactly the same page, just a couple of minor tweaks.

[diodepack]

i developed a logbook a while back you can use for free (link me if you re-post it).

StephenSemmelroth.com (http://www.stephensemmelroth.com/scuba.html)