DIR training donating the Primary question?

CincyBengalsFan · Oct 23, 2003

When taking a DIR class/seminar/course when practicing the donating of the primary with the instructor.

Would the instructor have a problem doing this with a HIV+ patient?

Assuming the HIV+ white blood cells and neutrophils were strong enough to get into the open water without problem.

Does anyone have a problem practicing donating the primary when it comes to personal Hygene or just swapping spit throughout the practice?

This is of course intended for curiousty and not bashing.

JeffG · Oct 23, 2003

CincyBengalsFan once bubbled...
<snip>This is of course intended for curiousty and not bashing.

intended for trolling of course

ScottyK · Oct 23, 2003

Your post made me even happier that I'm engaged to my buddy

VTernovski · Oct 23, 2003

hmmm... I was always wondering about it.... I never really liked to exchange spit with unknown poeple... one hting is in the emergency, but when you are in a safe environment, the thought does come to mind....

CincyBengalsFan · Oct 23, 2003

JeffG once bubbled...

intended for trolling of course

Even if it is intended for trolling. Just..What if..... Personally I've never come across this and I do teach buddy breathing. I'm not sure how I would react.

CincyBengalsFan · Oct 23, 2003

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hmmm... I was always wondering about it.... I never really liked to exchange spit with unknown poeple... one hting is in the emergency, but when you are in a safe environment, the thought does come to mind....

I agree, in an emergency..it's one thing..but to practice, that's another.

For years I've wondered about having students buy their own mouthpieces and just let them have the reg. for class. Or just budgeting mouthpieces for each student into the price of class. I've had real positive responses at the shop regarding this issue. I know of a shop that required people to purchase their own mouthpieces for class and there was never one complaint.

JeffG · Oct 23, 2003

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Even if it is intended for trolling. Just..What if..... Personally I've never come across this and I do teach buddy breathing. I'm not sure how I would react.

Well the true redneck answer would be...."Well they have already been sentenced to death, so whats the use."

Is that the way you are leaning?

ScottyK · Oct 23, 2003

I've actually seen disposable "mouthpiece condoms" for lack of a better term. Can't remember the specific product name. I believe the ad marketed them to students, and those who rented their gear.

Karl_in_Calif · Oct 23, 2003

CincyBengalsFan once bubbled...
When taking a DIR class/seminar/course when practicing the donating of the primary with the instructor.

Would the instructor have a problem doing this with a HIV+ patient?

Assuming the HIV+ white blood cells and neutrophils were strong enough to get into the open water without problem.

Does anyone have a problem practicing donating the primary when it comes to personal Hygene or just swapping spit throughout the practice?

This is of course intended for curiousty and not bashing.

Not sure if I can bail you out of this one, Cincy. If Rainbow Divers Dive Club finds out about your query, they might become very displeased.

First, the ocean water washes your mouthpiece pretty good during the transfer of the primary 2nd stage.

Second, we still do not know how HIV or AIDS is transmitted. Saliva transmission may very well be a myth.

Here in California, even close to San Francisco, this is just not something that we worry about in a scuba class. Therefore I doubt it would become a serious concern in Kentucky either.

VTernovski · Oct 23, 2003

no need to change mouthpeice, there is a mouthpeice condom, called octoguard that you can buy and put over the mouth peice. I've actually used it on rental regs, works well... but... that's not the point when buddy breaking or practicing the OOA drill... you are not going to stop and put the octoguard or a new mouthpeice before putting it in the mouth while doing the drill!

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