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lonebrave
November 9th, 2011, 10:20 PM
Thinking about getting an u/w rig, but not sure if I want to go dSLR or P&S. I shoot a D200 on land, manual 95% of the time. I've been lurking in the Nikon and Canon forums here and reading info all over the 'net trying to figure out which way I want to go. Basically just looking for some folks that know what they're talking about, can answer questions, and can help me make a decision.

I know I want something that can shoot full manual and RAW. If I choose dSLR, I'm not sure if upgrading to a newer body is an option (I don't know what my budget is, yet...kind of depends on if I can justify the cost when I figure out what I would really like to have). P&S contenders are the S95 and G12. I'd like to put hands on both of the Canons and see how I like them topside; if I decide to go P&S, it'll likely replace my wife's P&S for topside shooting in addition to being my u/w rig.

I found Lighthaus and Kaimuki, plus the normal chain stores (Ritz, etc). Any other options? Any dive shops that know their stuff when it comes to u/w photography?

friscuba
November 9th, 2011, 11:14 PM
The Canon s100 just came out. My wife bought one 2 weeks ago at Best Buy... she'd heard rumors on dpreview.com that they were stocking a limited number of them, went to the store didn't see it displayed, but found one in the box below the s95 displayed. The sales help didn't even know what the price was and the manager wasn't aware he even had one in the store. It's a touch smaller, full HD video, better ISO/noise performance, adjustable focus point (rather than center only) as opposed to the s95. I'd get it over a G12 (had a G9 and loved it). It's got most of the features of the G12, you just may have to go through a few more menu options. The housing should be downright small compared to a DSLR, but it wouldn't surprise me if availability doesn't occur right away.

Housing your DSLR will be pricey, and one you do it you'll be getting into ports and other neat stuff to house different lenses.

I debated on an s90 and an Olympus Pen epl-1 a couple years back, went with the Pen. I'm kicking myself at times. Love the camera, it's just big for what I do.

santy2506
November 9th, 2011, 11:39 PM
I use a G12 at work. If you would like to see it, send me a PM. I also like the Sea&Sea DX-1G...great if you like macro.

lonebrave
November 10th, 2011, 01:11 AM
...It's got most of the features of the G12, you just may have to go through a few more menu options.
My wife currently uses an SD750. The one thing that drives me nuts is the difficulty of doing any manual shooting with it b/c it's all menu driven. I'm too used to having dedicated shutter and aperture wheels on my D200, where I can quickly adjust the exposure with just a quick turn of a dial without having to think about it and take my eye off my subject.

justleesa
November 10th, 2011, 01:37 AM
These folks rent out UW camera gear

Hawaii Photo Rental - Camera & Lens Rental | Underwater and Audio-Visual Gear Rentals | Computer and Laptop Rental (http://www.hawaiicamera.com/)

might be able to give you a pointer or two

Black_3000psi
November 12th, 2011, 12:39 PM
if you are really into it dont blow money going step by step, you will get the s100 and its great for using one handed. but in the end you will grow out of it, how long that take depends on how often you dive. had the g11, have the g12 which I hardly use anymore, have canon T3i which is where I am going to stay for awhile. also have a Sony cybershot tx10 i use when I have divers cause its housing is small.all are great cameras, the canons will let you go raw, but personally, I feel raw is over rated, if you need to edit that much...you missed the shot. jmho. also I do teach an underwater photography class that goes way beyond what the specialty (padi) offers.

scottitheduck
November 12th, 2011, 02:28 PM
Agree with Marco.... if you need to edit that much in RAW, yeah.... you missed the shot. It is nice to be able to go back the next day and get the shot if we missed it though, huh bro?

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santy2506
November 12th, 2011, 05:22 PM
Marco...what kind of housing are you using for your T3i? Does Canon make housings?

cwkline
November 14th, 2011, 01:05 AM
The question you need to ask yourself is how in depth you want to get with your photography? A mid to high end P&S will take some great shots if you take some time and learn how to use it.
If you're into higher end photos, then you should consider the DSLR. It is a bit expensive, but the difference is remarkable.
You also need to factor in the cost of strobes. By the time you're finished you can spend quite a bit of money.
As for the RAW issue, it really isn't for detailed editing. It's more a function of white balance and color correction. It can mean the difference between blue-green and washed out and nice colors.
Just my .02
Charlie

DiveWestOahu
November 14th, 2011, 11:04 PM
the choice is pretty straightforward
are you going to spend
hundreds p&s
or house a dslr many thousands

DiveWestOahu
November 14th, 2011, 11:05 PM
ps, i don't think you'll find to much help at most dive shops for info, better off at camera shops or looking online at different forums such as here in the camera section

Doubler
November 15th, 2011, 12:09 PM
Call and talk to the professionals at Reef Photo or Backscatter. Talking to a camera dealer or a dive shop is not really going to answer your question. Talk to the people that use and sell Underwater Photography Equipment daily.

Black_3000psi
November 16th, 2011, 04:57 AM
Marco...what kind of housing are you using for your T3i? Does Canon make housings?using the Ikelite housing. I looked at the sea and sea housing but didnt like paying for the second handle. or the zoom gear. so far I have had great success with the Ikelite housing. sorry it took me so long to respond I dont come in here that often anymore, hope that helps you though. also canon makes housing for most of their point and shoots.the g11, g12 and the s-series cameras. Ikelite also makes housings for the same camera. it is said that Ikelites housing for the g12 has issues, a friend of mine flooded it. he later did some checking and found out that housing has been known to flood. fantasea housing for the g12 is a beautiful piece of work, cost 1k the canon housing works fine if you get strobe/s the settings are limited on the canon housing for the g12 once in the housing you will not be able to change the Fstop, but you will be able to adjust the iso. using fiber optic works great but I have found that for some reason the strobe will not fire (external) unless you are in manual mode. cant really say in regards to the s-series, but if you have any further questions concerning the g12 or the t3i I am glad to help or point you in the right direction.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/media/albums/?id=100000000394206
feel free to browse my pics. most of them are shot with g11, g12 and the newer ones with the t3i

scottitheduck
November 16th, 2011, 02:22 PM
As a side note..... the guys at Lighthaus Camera on King have always been helpful when I was looking.

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Black_3000psi
November 17th, 2011, 01:17 AM
Guide to Underwater Photography | Underwater Photography Guide (http://www.uwphotographyguide.com/)

lol I think I got this from gabe about a year ago.

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