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amobeus
November 6th, 2003, 07:30 AM
Hello
I spent most of the day up in Barrie yesterday and during my visit dove down on the Morrison and I'm sorry to report the vis has gone to zero. there is a large water drain pipe just noth of the Morrison on the beach that is flowing water out creating quite a silt out. I don't know if this is the norm for this time of year, but I had fun pulling myself out to the wreck than like reading Braille fingered myself around the it.
Amobeus.
Warren_L
November 6th, 2003, 08:27 AM
Unfortunately, that is nothing new. It's a popular place for instructors to take students and as a result, it tends to be fairly silted at times. However, this time of year you would think it would be less so.
vlada
November 6th, 2003, 09:06 AM
after the amount of rain in the last few days
wait until a few days of cool sunny weather and then try it - i had experienced viz of up to 40 ft there in the fall/winter
Vlada
Axeman
November 6th, 2003, 10:55 AM
I was on a wreck last night and was standing on deck before I knew it. Vis was about 2-3 feet.
Must be from the rain.
Once we penetrated however it was nice and clear. Well untill we penetrated then it was a little silty :)
All in all a nice dive but only because we spent most of the dive inside the wreck. The others who stayed outside could not really see anything and it was not all that great.
diver gadget
November 6th, 2003, 11:47 AM
Penetrated the Morrison? The J.C. Morrison? In Barrie? I guess it has that little bit of a structure left. Not much of a deck.
I think I might have been behind you the other day. I was pulling into Trinity common in Brampton and in front of me was a blue (I think) truck with www.scubajunkies.ca on the back. I wrote it down and now see the www in your Sig. Would that have been you? I also see you are from Brampton so it must have been you. Do you dive out of a store in the Brampton area?
Jamie Grant
Axeman
November 6th, 2003, 12:05 PM
I was not on the Morrison. it was another wreck. I have never been on the Morrison.
yes that was either me or my wife. I was probably me unless the driver was driving like a maniac. Then it was my wife. :)
You could say that I dive out of a shop in brampton. I am a LDS Manager. for fear of deletion I can't say which one though :)
Let me knwo if you want to go diving some time. (this is not a solicitation for business) Just a friendly invite.
diver gadget
November 6th, 2003, 12:22 PM
Sorry for confusion about wreck. So what wreck were you on?
I am always up for diving. I tend to get a lot in. Where do you usually dive?
Axeman
November 6th, 2003, 12:27 PM
I have been trying to get in a few dives a week.
we dive in Lake Ontario around toronto, toby, penatang, trent river etc. Have never been to kingston but would likt to try that some time.
keep trying to dive in port dover but always gets screwed up :)
but we try to stay local durring the week. Monday is a guaranteed dive night for me. other nights like last night are here and there. I got special permission from the wife to go out last night so I could finish a cert.
diver gadget
November 6th, 2003, 12:32 PM
When you say local, where do you go? I have heard reports on them trying to get the Caledon Gravel company to open up to divers. The only other place I can think would be Lake Ontario.
Axeman
November 6th, 2003, 12:35 PM
sure lake ontario.... sorry....
yeah we either launch out of ash bridges bay or humber park.
sometimes we do shore dives from humber as well.
diver gadget
November 6th, 2003, 12:42 PM
I have been trying for some time now to get a group of people to dive the Slegio. My plans just always fall through. I have got in touch with a store several times. They use to run a Zodiac out to it every wednesday, not sure if they still do. I am positive you know which store it is since we are staying away from names. Anyways when my group could make it they were either full or no longer running and when they were available my group could not make it.
Axeman
November 6th, 2003, 12:50 PM
That is tragic.....
You should contact that store in brampton. They might be able to help you and acomodate your group whenever.
Axeman
November 6th, 2003, 12:52 PM
btw.. I think we just hijacked this thread. sorry.
I promise I wont take it to any non extradition countries. :)
amobeus
November 7th, 2003, 04:16 PM
Hi
I know for a fact that Tod Shanon has dive chaters out to the slego on a regular bases out of Aqua Systems, he has a large boat right on the water that gets here in 20 minutes and all tha paper work with the harbor master and marine unit is in order prior to departure.
Amobeus
Axeman
November 8th, 2003, 02:49 PM
I work for Todd Shannon.
The only boat in our organization that is on the water is the Oakville drivers boat. which is in oakville. The other boats are all stored elsewhere.
For clarification the dives are arranged out of the Mississauga Diving store in port credit.
I was just mentioning that I could set up the charter for him because we are not going out there on a regular basis any more.
Thanks
amobeus
November 8th, 2003, 09:06 PM
Thanks for the clarification Axeman.
Amobeus
d33ps1x
November 9th, 2003, 10:46 PM
The wind has been pretty strong in Barrie all week and this doesn't help much.
amobeus
November 10th, 2003, 09:23 PM
Ya! the wind coming down on Centenial beach can be *****y at times, I wish the person who layed the new line out to the Morrison would of cut away the old line instead of leaving it there all cut up swaying in the water, plus the new line is all over the place instead of a nice straight line directly out to the wreck as its always been, but hay! the new line is nice and thanks to the diver who spent the time to lay it out.
Amobeus
dmdoug
November 10th, 2003, 10:11 PM
Hey Axeman...
Amobeus is correct in stating that Todd Shannon Sr used to dive the Sligo on a regular basis. The dives used to be done on a small 8 man zodiac out of Humber Park West.
The obligation of the Wednesday night dives was done in the zodiac and the sign up was completed solely at Aqua-Systems. We used to meet at the dock at 6:00 pm for the first dive and then when the weather was good we used to complete a second night dive. I was divemaster on the boat on a few occasions in my first years as a cert. divemaster.
When I was first introduced to scuba MDS was responsible for the OW weekends in Midland, on the Orkney Isle, as well as arranging the pool on Tuesday nights. There were 2 zodiacs, one stored at either Todd Sr's home or MDS. The second was stored at the rear of Oakville Diver's. Sr used to leave the store to P/U the zodiac and meet at the park.
Todd Jr has only done this dive for this summer, using the new boat. Last summer there were no dives done on the Sligo by Sr or Jr due to an illness in the family.
Dive safe,
dmdoug
d33ps1x
November 11th, 2003, 02:05 AM
Was out on the Morrision today again. (DM mapping project blah)....
Great vis cept when we bothered to follow the line out from the boiler and my buddy found the ****e vent. Lovely
Anyways. Not bad as long as the wind is in the right direction.
Chris Red
November 11th, 2003, 06:49 AM
D33pS1x
Was out on the Morrision today again. (DM mapping project blah)....
I always thought they were storm sewers... rain from gutters, down grates in the road eventually ending up in the lake. Which would explain why it gets so murky after rain.
Just good clean dirt!:D
A bunch of us are going out today... might be a bit warmer. Hope we get your viz! Thanks for showing me your pix.
amobeus
November 11th, 2003, 08:19 AM
Hello
A freind and I two year back layed out all the line to the Morrison as it was neglected and needed replacement. We were also the ones who took the lines past the wreck and out in line with the water discharge pipes. The water coming out of those pipes beleave it or not is excess filterd water from the filtration plant across the road from Centennial beach, if you get cold just hang on till the warm exhaust water warms you up. I havn't grown any third leg or developed and bumps so its safe. This coming summer 204 the Morrison will under go a clean up along the path to the wreck with new blocks and heavy perminent lines, we are also trying to get the city of Barrie to install a historical notification of the wreck along the centennial beach pathway, its amazing how many residence up there do not know this wreck exist. If any of you guys have the energy while diving her, start cutting away some of the old yellow rope that is floating around out there.
Thanks
Amobeus.
Warren_L
November 11th, 2003, 08:42 AM
The viz actually looks good! I don't think I've ever seen it that clear before.
Chris Red
November 11th, 2003, 09:03 AM
Amobeus...
A few weeks ago I was out there and thought I could detect a slight warming near those outlets... great to know!
Well it's just pouring rain here in Toronto this morning... I wonder what that will do for the viz???
Boogie711
November 11th, 2003, 09:09 AM
to the City of Barrie, I can assure you... the outflow pipes you speak of are NOT stormwater treatment pipes.
I was brought in to help with the TCE in the groundwater issue that someone may remember, about 3 summers ago. My office was in the wastewater treatment plant, just outside Centennial Park.
Now, for what it's worth, for the sake of not grossing anyone out... all the brown stuff gets packaged up and sent elsewhere. The liquid stuff gets treated, filtered, and pumped out into the bay. 'Treated' is the operative term. I wouldn't DRINK it, but it's fine to swim in.
amobeus
November 11th, 2003, 10:50 AM
Hi
I wouldn't mind doing a long dive out and beyond the Morrison this weekend weather permitting looking for junk , any divers wanting to get togethor ping me.
Amobeus
Marvintpa
November 11th, 2003, 07:23 PM
Isn't there already a sign about the Morrison near the beach? This is where the majority of the people are (just not the majority of divers.)
If the Town of Barrie is looking to spend some money on the site I'd suggest a few stairs would be an excellent investment.
simcoediver
November 11th, 2003, 08:18 PM
Yes stairs would be an excellent idea for older out of shape divers like myself .Ive almost slipped a few times on those slimey rocks!
amobeus
November 11th, 2003, 08:19 PM
Hi
You've go that right buddy, I'd love to get some of those rocks moved and clear a slope down to the waters edge so you don't brake your neck getting in and out. Pehaps next summer we can move some of thos rocks. Yes! there is a plaque screwd to the Morrison but I'm talking on the grass near the path were people can read about it and know why divers are dipping in and out.
Amobeus
simcoediver
November 11th, 2003, 08:25 PM
I would be more than willing to help out,but we would certainly need to get permission from someone in Barrie. Perhaps the new mayor!
Marvintpa
November 12th, 2003, 09:32 AM
Actually, I was not referring to the small white SOS mould on the wreck (http://www.geocities.com/marvintpaa/msos.jpg), but rather the 6' tall historical sign near the paved walkway towards the beach. I visited the Morrison around 100 times before seeing the sign for the first time just a couple of months ago, so I'd say it's not in the ideal location but I know it's there.
amobeus
November 12th, 2003, 10:49 AM
Ya! your correct, Persons are trying to get it moved to the entry spot were divers go in and out with a little more content.
Amobeus
Axeman
November 13th, 2003, 11:49 AM
dmdoug.
so now you are talking about what was the case 2 yeays ago?
not to rock the boat or anything I just thought I would give current information.
that ways if they want to do a dive then it might get planned and done.
Thanks
dmdoug
November 16th, 2003, 11:10 AM
Hey Axeman,
In reading over the past few threads I recognize that there were no dates. The information regarding your LDS is current.
I was only recognizing that Amobeus was correct in stating that the LDS I am working at was the store running the Sligo charter and your LDS was only responsible for the OW dives up north....
That is all. Sorry if I offended you with that post. I was only stating facts that occurred prior to you being in the LDS picture.
Dive Safe,
dmdoug