Hi all,
I'm tinkering with a web site design. Please let me know what you think. I have web enabled the NOAA obstructions database and right now that's the wrecks link. Once I get the search part of it done I'll move it to it's own menu item and make the wrecks link just the more popular wrecks or something. Anyhoo...lemme know what you think.
link (http://www.dale-wright.com/wreckmaniac)
naturalsummer
November 15th, 2003, 01:56 PM
looks great Dale,
one additional thing I would like to see on the website is the closest city/port to the wrecks in NC .
Thanks.
medic13
November 15th, 2003, 04:19 PM
good start also look hear several maps with wrecks sights with the ports on it .
we got more head , Wilmington, Hatteras on there and working on some from south Carolina now
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ncwreckdivers/?yguid=93389000
dwright
November 18th, 2003, 04:31 PM
Added a couple of new things to the site...a second more NC related database...look under other stuff on the main page...and a knowledge review / quiz that will become more robust as I get more questions and such...the link for that is also under other stuff...I am working on charts for the area. I have a line on an application that will let me save them as large printable images...
link (http://www.dale-wright.com/wreckmaniac)
RICHinNC
November 18th, 2003, 10:05 PM
Dont know what a pain it would be,,,,, but.... I would like to see a section on here that lists some groups that take you out and what wrecks they go to,.\
Example....Aquatic Safaris has a web site and there they list all the sites they visit....depth....costs.....scheduled trips....and the like. If there were information like that....even if only a link.... it would give divers more oppor;tunities to choose from....
Just a thought...Rich
medic13
November 19th, 2003, 09:45 AM
I have Olympusdiving
and aquatics safaris and few others , Low country scuba
and coastal scuba any others you all want just let me know they under the links I could put them in one folder if you wanted to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ncwreckdivers/
dwright
November 25th, 2003, 04:59 PM
Hi all,
The web site is coming along...I am still working on getting the charts that are a good printable size. I have tinkered with the menu some and got some dynamic news and such. Please check it out and let me know if the menu is ligning up okay...it's a DHTML deal and I had some trouble getting it right.
link (http://www.dale-wright.com/wreckmaniac)
dwright
November 26th, 2003, 11:48 AM
Got a shout box working on the site now...kinda like a blogger but open to everyone...so post some ideas there if you will.
link (http://www.dale-wright.com/wreckmaniac)
bfdc
July 27th, 2004, 08:02 PM
Added a couple of new things to the site...a second more NC related database...look under other stuff on the main page...and a knowledge review / quiz that will become more robust as I get more questions and such...the link for that is also under other stuff...I am working on charts for the area. I have a line on an application that will let me save them as large printable images...
link (http://www.dale-wright.com/wreckmaniac)
....so dale, how come your site - particularly the wreck database - is a complete rip-off of my website? www.nc-wreckdiving.com; no "courtesy of" or attribution, etc.
....all the text, graphics, photos are clearly marked for source or copyright, yet your wreck database - dive notes, etc, copies my site word-for-word. You give the impression that you actually dive these wrecks - as opposed to those of us who have been diving these since 1979. Maybe you only webdive?
...how about taking it down NOW and doing something original?
bfdc
Kriterian
July 29th, 2004, 11:08 PM
we got more head , Wilmington, Hatteras on there
Man, I want to go on one of the trips with you, talk about perks!
dwright
August 4th, 2004, 01:42 PM
....so dale, how come your site - particularly the wreck database - is a complete rip-off of my website? www.nc-wreckdiving.com; no "courtesy of" or attribution, etc.
....all the text, graphics, photos are clearly marked for source or copyright, yet your wreck database - dive notes, etc, copies my site word-for-word. You give the impression that you actually dive these wrecks - as opposed to those of us who have been diving these since 1979. Maybe you only webdive?
...how about taking it down NOW and doing something original?
bfdc
As I stated to you in an email and on my site, I used some of the wreck info from your site, including text and images, to test an ASP database engine I'm working on. If I wanted to steal it, I would have taken it all but only wanted a few different ones so I could test searching and other features missing in your site. I also wanted a consistent layout also missing from your site. There is a formal apology posted on the main page of my site...oh and I love the web diving comment.
preferredassembly
August 22nd, 2004, 02:57 PM
Hi all,
I'm tinkering with a web site design. Please let me know what you think. I have web enabled the NOAA obstructions database and right now that's the wrecks link. Once I get the search part of it done I'll move it to it's own menu item and make the wrecks link just the more popular wrecks or something. Anyhoo...lemme know what you think.
link (http://www.dale-wright.com/wreckmaniac)
Hey Dale,
I've just started diving wrecks off NC/SC and so far it's been pretty interesting. I've been to the USS Sherman and to "The Barge", also known as Barracuda Alley. My next dive is to the Governor. Have you been to the Governor and if so, what can I expect as far as vis and stuff to see? Once I have enough information to post on your web site I will be glad to do so. It's great that divers can share info with each other and get a first hand idea on what to expect.
Good luck and I'll be keeping up with your site.
Tracy
Corigan
August 19th, 2005, 07:57 AM
....so dale, how come your site - particularly the wreck database - is a complete rip-off of my website? www.nc-wreckdiving.com; no "courtesy of" or attribution, etc.
....all the text, graphics, photos are clearly marked for source or copyright, yet your wreck database - dive notes, etc, copies my site word-for-word. You give the impression that you actually dive these wrecks - as opposed to those of us who have been diving these since 1979. Maybe you only webdive?
...how about taking it down NOW and doing something original?
bfdcOld Thread, but some things never change.. I have a great addition for your website Dale. Oh wait, that's right, you took it down after ripping us off, sorry.
Matt
cornfed
August 19th, 2005, 08:03 AM
Old Thread, but some things never change.. I have a great addition for your website Dale. Oh wait, that's right, you took it down after ripping us off, sorry.
Matt
Matt, have you talked to the police yet?
Corigan
August 19th, 2005, 08:17 AM
Matt, have you talked to the police yet?No, I haven't. I still haven't decided what I'm going to do yet. Since the club is basically in transition to a new forum I was going to wait till the new forum is up for a group conversation to decide which course of action we all would like to take. I would like to do this as a group, and right at the moment various people are scattered all over the place on dive trips and not intown. Wait till they get back and see what's been going on. Once everyone is back intown and available for comment then I believe we will have a definitive course of action.
Yeah I know Cornfed, I'm stirring the pot early today.. :) I just thought this thread was interesting because we discussed this on wreckmaniac recently. The gentleman making the claim in the above quotation is accurate (from what I can tell). We all went and looked at his site, and it was obvious Dale had taken more than just a few pictures from the guys webpage. He took WHOLE pages and just put them on wreckmaniac like they were his own pages. Here is a link depicting all the images and text he had taken from bfdc's site and put on his own. He has images showing all the offences.
http://www.nc-wreckdiving.com/boguspages.html
Matt
cornfed
August 19th, 2005, 08:21 AM
I still haven't decided what I'm going to do yet. Since the club is basically in transition to a new forum I was going to wait till the new forum If I can make a recommendation I would suggest establishing two positions in your club, treasurer and ... auditor!
Yeah I know Cornfed, I'm stirring the pot early today.. :) I don't mean to give you a hard time because I've been known to stir the pot myself at times. Heck some might say I'm doing it right now. ;)
Corigan
August 19th, 2005, 08:27 AM
I don't mean to give you a hard time because I've been known to stir the pot myself at times. Heck some might say I'm doing it right now. ;)It's all good, you aren't giving me, or anyone else a hardtime. I appreciate your input, the auditor and treasurer comment is a good idea.
I edited my previous post and added a link in to show the offending material stated by bfdc.
Matt
BabyDuck
August 19th, 2005, 08:41 AM
drew, we're less formal than that. unless, of course, i'm elected empress - then we'll have officers. but at any rate, i think we'll all go through shops ourselves to set up trips, and only have a club bird dog setting things up and finding answers to questions, instead of a money holder.
LindaBluedolphin
August 19th, 2005, 08:48 AM
That is what I would prefer paying the shop or boat myself not putting anyone in the postion of being respoinsible for group money.
cornfed
August 19th, 2005, 08:57 AM
drew, we're less formal than that. unless, of course, i'm elected empress - then we'll have officers. but at any rate, i think we'll all go through shops ourselves to set up trips, and only have a club bird dog setting things up and finding answers to questions, instead of a money holder.A group of us set up some trips earlier in the year. We found that some boats either wanted all the checks at the same time or just one check. That kinda force one person into acting as an ad hoc treasurer for that trip. Now when I say "a group of us" I really mean "a group of friends". I'm not saying y'all aren't friends but I have friends who I don't worry about giving money too and "friends" who I'd rather split the check with, if you know what I mean.
Anyways, some boats will let you pay individually and some won't. Just something to be aware of.
Corigan
August 19th, 2005, 08:59 AM
Anyways, some boats will let you pay individually and some won't. Just something to be aware of.In our instance the boat only wanted to deal directly with one individual who had taken the group leader position, and only wanted one check from the group. Just like Cornfed stated.
Matt
BabyDuck
August 19th, 2005, 09:03 AM
well, i'll do it next time. i'm looking at a nitrox-compatible computer and maybe new regs...
BabyDuck
August 19th, 2005, 09:03 AM
ooh, and a custom wetsuit!
Corigan
August 19th, 2005, 09:04 AM
well, i'll do it next time. i'm looking at a nitrox-compatible computer and maybe new regs...Heh, We love you marci! Your funny!
Matt
cornfed
August 19th, 2005, 09:16 AM
In our instance the boat only wanted to deal directly with one individual who had taken the group leader position, and only wanted one check from the group. Just like Cornfed stated.We're way off topic now, but oh well...
I've thought a bit about this problem. If we let other people on our trips we run the risk of them stiffing us. They also run the risk (in their mind anyway) of us stiffing them. The best thing I can think of is to use PayPal. This provides security for both people. The down side is PayPal does charge some fees. They're small but if I was setting up a trip for 10 people it could quickly add up. The obvious solution would be to charge anyone using PayPal that extra fee which I think is around 3%, eg if the trip is $100 then you would send them and paypal invoice for $103. Is this the best way? Is it better than sticking with shops? *shrug* Beats me.
cornfed
August 19th, 2005, 09:17 AM
ooh, and a custom wetsuit!Sounds like your buddy Dale walked away with enough for a custom drysuit.
medic13
August 19th, 2005, 10:25 AM
well I know I have acess with allot of the dive boats , maybe because of many yrs with most them but all I do is set up a dive and then from threre is pretty easy , with most friends I just use paypal . its funny this is supose to be about the web sirte which i had at one time then dale took over .
I still have my yahoo group site for nc wreckdivers. I have to renew my hosting this month if any one has any experence with web site building give me shout will start working on it middle of the week ,
suthnbelle
August 20th, 2005, 07:09 PM
Sounds like your buddy Dale walked away with enough for a custom drysuit.
Lets just say he took a trip down to Florida (some "top secret" dive) in May or early June that we know of, and I'm sure he has taken others. While I was in Morehead this week everytime I drove past Diver Down I'd make sure to look for his truck. He only dives with Bobby Cox, and it is probably the only person that will deal with him now.
Mel
GrierHPharmD
August 21st, 2005, 09:40 PM
Well, with the competition for group business among dive operators, I would guess that most of them could be persuaded to work with individual divers. In my experience, the threat of losing a lucrative charter is usually sufficient incentive to work out the payment details. If not, there's always another operator down the road willing to take the business.
As for Dale, I wasn't affected, but his actions against a group that I care about were absolutely reprehensible. I only hope that we cross paths on a boat some time. What a loser...
LindaBluedolphin
August 22nd, 2005, 05:51 AM
Lets just say he took a trip down to Florida (some "top secret" dive) in May or early June that we know of, and I'm sure he has taken others. While I was in Morehead this week everytime I drove past Diver Down I'd make sure to look for his truck. He only dives with Bobby Cox, and it is probably the only person that will deal with him now.
Mel
As rumor has it his "top secret" trip was to explore some wrecks with big ticket treasure, maybe he became a Pirate.
CapeFear
August 22nd, 2005, 11:01 AM
[QUOTE=Corigan]In our instance the boat only wanted to deal directly with one individual who had taken the group leader position, and only wanted one check from the group. Just like Cornfed stated.
Discovery "was" taking individual bookings for these charters. I booked on that trip directly with Discovery, not thru Dale. Dale did not book the whole boat, he was booking spaces as he got the money according to my contact at the shop. If you recall the thread on NCWD about this trip, Dale got extremely po'ed when I booked directly with the shop. After his terse post not to book with the shop, I PM'ed Dale and JasonB about the attitude. Dale did not respond, but Jason did promptly with a friendly, dont worry attitude. I can only guess he was mad because I was foiling his evil plot if it was a blow. I figured why should he have an attitude if he didnt book the whole boat as anyone could call the shop and get on the boat.
The reason I booked with the shop was I did not trust Dale since I did not know him, mainly it was because of his ripping off Paul Hudy's copyrighted material. I emailed and PM'ed him and of course he did not reply. I also Pm'ed the powers that be here at SB and questioned how he couild be a web master here when he was blatently ripping off others material. I figured if he could not even answer PM's and email about this issue and PM's about the trip then I sure would not trust him with my money.
