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matts1w
May 2nd, 2012, 08:48 AM
I have not seen this discussed here: lionfish and now scary Asian shrimp?

Cannibal shrimp: The invasion has begun | The Upshot - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/upshot/cannibal-shrimp-invasion-begun-165542739.html)

danvolker
May 2nd, 2012, 08:57 AM
I have not seen this discussed here: lionfish and now scary Asian shrimp?

Cannibal shrimp: The invasion has begun | The Upshot - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/upshot/cannibal-shrimp-invasion-begun-165542739.html)

Sounds like what could be a new version of the last Godzilla movie, with the Corexit dispersant ( horrifyingly toxic) causing the massive new shrimp, to assemble and forever change the food chain :-)

tomfcrist
May 2nd, 2012, 09:45 AM
looks like a marketable item to me. Looks pretty tastey as well.

danvolker
May 2nd, 2012, 11:43 AM
Wasn't there a SciFi movie where creatures were genetically modified to become huge, for the purposes of feeding humans? :-)

tomfcrist
May 2nd, 2012, 11:48 AM
I have no idea......im not a sci fi fanatic......i tend to eat sea creatures, not fantasize about gigantic mutant ones with ambitions of taking over the earth.

matts1w
May 2nd, 2012, 06:00 PM
looks like a marketable item to me. Looks pretty tastey as well.

When I first moved to Jakarta and saw tons of massive Tiger Prawns fresh on ice at the local market I thought I died and gone to seafood heaven. I purchased a bag, fired up the third hand webber, and got to work. Bottom line is they taste pretty freakin' nasty, although I suspect the ones in the stores are farm raised in some muddy, funky, skanky swamp water. The three things I miss most from living on Fort Myers Beach: grilled grouper sandwiches, sunsets over Sanibel, and fresh gulf shrimp. Oh....and buffalo shrimp from The Cottage.

Angry Turtle
May 2nd, 2012, 07:00 PM
When I first moved to Jakarta and saw tons of massive Tiger Prawns fresh on ice at the local market I thought I died and gone to seafood heaven. I purchased a bag, fired up the third hand webber, and got to work. Bottom line is they taste pretty freakin' nasty, although I suspect the ones in the stores are farm raised in some muddy, funky, skanky swamp water. The three things I miss most from living on Fort Myers Beach: grilled grouper sandwiches, sunsets over Sanibel, and fresh gulf shrimp. Oh....and buffalo shrimp from The Cottage.

But you still get to dive in Indonesia :D

Danielle's_Dives
May 3rd, 2012, 03:58 PM
This was brought to my attention last week by my husband from a daily mail article and I am doing some more research on it. Looks yummy to me. I know the tiger prawns I buy from Australia aren't this big but they are tasty :D Some of the articles state that it is eating the smaller shrimp but can this replace it if so for more profits to fisherman? Don't jump on me, I am not for or against them and yes, I do understand that introduced species can be a pain in the backside and do harm to ecosystems.

Hank49
May 3rd, 2012, 04:57 PM
Bottom line is they taste pretty freakin' nasty, although I suspect the ones in the stores are farm raised in some muddy, funky, skanky swamp water.

More likely you got some shrimp that wasn't iced and taken care of properly from fishing boat and or ponds to the market. I've eaten a LOT of tiger shrimp and they are as good as any other species.
If they were larger than 35-40 grams in size (21/25s or 26/30 tails per lb by US measurement) there were likely wild caught since hardly any farms grow them bigger than that.
If they were over 60 grams or up to 200 grams, they were definitely wild caught.
As to growing them in "muddy, funky, skanky swamp water".... tiger shrimp are one of the more difficult to grow in ponds (more so in hatcheries) and of the hundreds of farms I've been to in 4 countries in SE Asia, none were using the water conditions that you describe. I would venture to say that it is virtually impossible to do so.

I would guess, that like lion fish, the Penaeus monodon (tiger shrimp) are here to stay. The shrimp trawlers do a good job of raping the sea floor in the Gulf but they won't get them all.

koozemani
May 3rd, 2012, 05:27 PM
Beat you to it :D

http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/marine-life-ecosystems/418972-old-busted-lionfish-new-hotness-cannibal-shrimp.html

Mods, can we merge threads?

matts1w
May 3rd, 2012, 06:06 PM
More likely you got some shrimp that wasn't iced and taken care of properly from fishing boat and or ponds to the market. I've eaten a LOT of tiger shrimp and they are as good as any other species.
If they were larger than 35-40 grams in size (21/25s or 26/30 tails per lb by US measurement) there were likely wild caught since hardly any farms grow them bigger than that.
If they were over 60 grams or up to 200 grams, they were definitely wild caught.
As to growing them in "muddy, funky, skanky swamp water".... tiger shrimp are one of the more difficult to grow in ponds (more so in hatcheries) and of the hundreds of farms I've been to in 4 countries in SE Asia, none were using the water conditions that you describe. I would venture to say that it is virtually impossible to do so.

Cool. Thanks for the information. I will give them another try then. Honestly, most seafood here kind of skeezes me out as it all seems so.....suspect (if that makes nay sense).

LowVizWiz
May 3rd, 2012, 08:24 PM
Yummy, coconut shrimp!

Private Benjamin Buford would be proud. :D

Hank49
May 4th, 2012, 10:52 AM
Cool. Thanks for the information. I will give them another try then. Honestly, most seafood here kind of skeezes me out as it all seems so.....suspect (if that makes nay sense).

I lived in the Philippines for 11 years. A lot of those fishermen didn't have access to enough ice. Just be sure to cook everything thoroughly.

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